KlauthWarthog wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Class kit is still just as clunky

I disagree with that statement - it is clunkier now. Instead of having to deal some occasional BB derp-outs, necromancers now have to micromanage yet another timer and a stack-building mechanic.

Yes, but also no... because most people aren't going to use GLS in the first place.

It will just be ignored for a few years before they rework it again despite overwhelming feedback throughout the entire PTS, even simple feedback like the "in combat" requirement being clunky AF, is still there.

necro_the_crafter wrote: »

ricochet skulls can deal double damage to secondary targets,which is triple conidering ability ramps to 150% on a third cast +15% base from GLS ~ 330% damage to target it bounces from base tooltip, resulting in more damage then stalking, but it can be rolled and projectile is as slow as my grandma so...

In PvP the actual ricochet rarely lands, as there are two opportunities for it to be dodged, and the requirements of being in range and within LoS, which in PvP tends to be a coin flip due to positional desync and movement.

"All the more reason to buy the necrom chapter and the new Arcanist class" - Zos in their dev team meeting preparing to gut Necro

Update 42 will need to have some real Necro buffs and coherence added to the class kit, but I'm not holding my breath.

The only reason anyone would use GLS is if they found some niche set or mechanic to once again compensate for Necro's very empty toolbox. Every time this has happened for Necro it has been met with swift nerfs. Harmony double nerfed into a useless and hilariously bad trait, and Elemental Succession made Magcro competitive and fit in with their more elementalist skills so you know they had to break it apart. If Dark convergence wasn't used so much on one of their favorite classes it would have gone the way of the Dodo as well, instead they just nerfed Boneyard to the point where Graverobber couldn't even break through a wet paper bag.

This update did not pass the wallet test. Good bye Magcro your best move is now stamina and good luck my fellow Necro mains you'll need it.

I wonder how many people purchased necro when it was on sale, leveled one up, and will log in on update day and not understand what just happened to their PAID class...

I’m trying to get as many uses out of my necro before the patch drops.

Might have to do some necro only trials again.

Flame Skull ''MIGHT'' have some use in PvP since GLS makes third cast AoE and by extension it should also make it un-dodgeable. Other than that, the rest of the offensive kit is the same crap as always:

-Avid Boneyard can be walked away from, Grave Robber synergy was gutted a while ago.
-Shocking Siphon can be walked away from and can also break from small obstacles on the ground.
-Skeletal Mage can't even be commanded to attack a specific target.
-Glacial Colossus can be walked away from before 3rd hit stun happens.

This is the same class that has the lowest access to sources of named buffs, has no on-demand cc, no execute skill, and not a single sticky DoT.

In PvE the rotation is becoming even more demanding, since you now have to manage your 3x Flame Skull casts before using your Corpse consuming skills and with worse sustain since Reusable Parts is not affecting your main skill now.

Unless I'm missing something, this is literally the opposite of what the Necromancer changes were supposed to address.

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Alaztor91 wrote: »

Flame Skull ''MIGHT'' have some use in PvP since GLS makes third cast AoE and by extension it should also make it un-dodgeable. Other than that, the rest of the offensive kit is the same crap as always:

The initial target can still be dodged. It's no different than Reverse Slice - the AoE proc itself is undodgeable but the initial target of the skill can still dodge the attack and prevent the AoE portion from firing.

Yikes. Guess we are stuck with this BS for at least 6 months.

soulus42 wrote: »

Personally I'm okay with the change, gonna need to get used to the shift in rotation but that's nothing new. If there's something I'm going to be wanting in future, and I'm hoping that's what the major PvP update will be in Q4, is for them to have separate PvP and PvE skill effects because that seems to be the main issue for balancing purposes.

This is unfortunately a pipe dream that will never happen, especially on a game entering it's 10th year. ESO has well over 40-50 outdated and unused sets that they willfully choose, with every patch, are pointless to balance. ESO has classes where half the toolkit is never touched by anyone because the morphs are clearly biased, yet they prove, with every patch, that they don't care about bringing the base skills or morphs up to balance.

If they don't now, they will never have the willpower to balance all their sets and skills for different actions depending on what content they're in.

Necro got gutted in a way I've never witnessed since picking up this game in 2016. I used to be a magden main before the hybrid changes. I was livid about the shalks change, but at least that was only a retiming and power differential change. I've never mained plar, but at least jabs are still (sort of) jabs and weren't deleted and turned into a non-damaging buff.

Stalking blastbones is gone. It won't be coming back. We paid extra for this.