You can probably finish the first one just getting in a zerg group and following along for 20 minutes. I tend to heal and get credit for kills the group gets. That's usually what I do while I'm trying to get barrier and war horn for my healers.

For trials, if this was before the Group Finder, I'd agree with you. However, I've started using it regularly for normal trials, and I had never done trials before. I think they're a lot more accessible to the average player now, except perhaps those with the crummiest connectivity.

As for the other two endeavors, I can definitely see it being an issue for those who averse to PvP. I don't do much PvP myself except for the events, but sometimes getting out of my comfort zone means I find something else I enjoy. And I did find in the last Mayhem event that I do enjoy PvP in small doses, even though I suck at it. Of course, maybe you've already tried and already know you hate it, and that's fine.

"Normal" players, as you put it, still have options. It might just not be comfortable or ideal options.

I wouldn't say PvPers or people doing trials aren't "normal players"... I see all playstyles as valid, why would I care if people PvP, play ToT, do housing, run trials, dungeons, do quests or go fishing?

That said, ZOS has once announced that they care to have a good mix when it comes to endeavours, so there's one thing for almost every playstyle. I don't see this being the case this week (Is there a PvP event coming this week? Because the endeavors look themed somehow). In general, they could give us more than just 3 options. The more variety to choose from, the better, really.

Find someone else who doesn't like these endeavors and go kill them 15 times in Cyrodiil by a keep they can respawn to, then repeat but let them kill you. It's a hassle but that might be the fastest way for you to complete them. Or just ignore them, I do that sometimes.

virtus753 wrote: »

The semi-annual PvP Mayhem event is slated to start "late February," so this looks aimed to line up with that.

That makes sense. And it's another reason to complain, btw: Why do they announce events so late, lately? If it starts this week, as usual on a Thursday, that's not even 4 whole days from now.

"normal players"

yea those don't really offer an endeavour for everyone.

though we can now use the group finder for trials.
i will probably try killing The Horrors as i do that every Mayhem anyways

I recall doing something like the first endeavor with guildie. It ends up with like 8 of us logging into 2 alliance and we just take turns killing each other and have guildmate in same alliance rezing. We did that in a remote location, not close to any keep so no PvPer will interrupt us, even if they see the PvP icon on the map.

yeah i think one of the weekly endeavours should always offer a casual activity, so i'm with you on that

the kill 15 players one is pretty easy though. just join a group in cyro and wait for a keep siege. you'll get credit for your group's kills (i believe)

Guess I'm gonna be zerging it in Cyrodiil. Apologies to any group that gets lumbered with me!

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

This week:

- Kill 15 Players in Cyrodiil
- Defeat 7 Patrolling Horrors
- Complete 7 Trials


No option for normal players. Please always have SOMETHING that most of us can do, not unachievable goals!

Since this is obviously a PVP week, they could have replaced the last one with "Get killed by 15 different players in Cyrodiil" and that would have been something that everyone could participate in.

I am almost not surprised. There has been a change in philosophy with Necrom. Zos seems almost anti-casual player now.

These “choices” seem to be following that trend.

I have no issue if the focus for endeavours for the next week or two is on PvP.
We all had extra endeavours through daily login rewards and then this last week the daily endeavours have been slanted towards crafting (a PvE event).

What do you spend endeavours on and how often? I have several new mounts and many outfits, some pets, even a custom fast travel action all through endeavours. Missing out on one week will in the long term not impact.

For the record, I primarily PvE but join in with PvP and I am prepared to die, a lot as I am pretty bad at it . I will join the PvP this week, but do not expect to gain any endeavours out of it. I join in for the enjoyment of it all.

ZOS doesn't owe you anything. And no one is stopping you from participating in trials or PvP.