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No Eveli? THANK YOU!
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✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Yep, for this instance it makes less sense to have an Argonian npc show up, but it is not the Elsweyr chapter either and yet "puss in boots" detective is making a comeback. My point is that over the years ZOS had plenty of opportunities to bring some other NPCs from the base game back.... and they didn't. I mean we had Murkmire and Blackwood and not a single Argonian returning from the base game, even if it make perfect sense. I mean I am seeing this pattern being repeated over & over and ZOS tends to stick to only handful of NPCs regardless the content they are adding.
"Fan favorites". There's only a few and ZOS seems to push them, too. It's most obvious with Naryu, Razum-dar and Eveli. And maybe Jakarn, before they ruined him.@Syldras | PC | EU
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✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Yep, for this instance it makes less sense to have an Argonian npc show up, but it is not the Elsweyr chapter either and yet "puss in boots" detective is making a comeback.
I don’t disagree, I was a little surprised he was mentioned too, but he’s an investigator and we do have a zone-wide mystery (‘Where did all this jungle come from?!!’) to solve. It’s no weirder than having Seeks-the-Dark and Choixth show up in Summerset.
Also, if they jam in too many cameos it starts to turn into Blackwood where 90% of the quest givers are returning NPCs and we don’t have anyone new or local.#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
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✭✭Admittedly I could do without Mizzik Thunderboots and Fennorian, but at least we don't get Eveli. That's something at least.
Now if they'd just let us kill Fennorian and Mizzik, that would be a reason to truly celebrate.2 -
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✭✭Evili is probably my favorite NPC in the game. She's an excellent archer with an upbeat personality.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Admittedly I could do without Mizzik Thunderboots and Fennorian, but at least we don't get Eveli. That's something at least.
I do like Fennorian (and slightly dislike cat in boots), I just hope he has a good reason to be there. Not like Razum-dar in Galen who was just there because... Razum-dar.
Edited by Syldras on January 19, 2024 2:31PM@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
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✭✭✭✭✭Still hope all mentioned would play just a minor quest giver role as some like fennorian are already overused. Would always prefer new characters instead of strangers wearing old familiar skin like Raz, for example.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Admittedly I could do without Mizzik Thunderboots and Fennorian, but at least we don't get Eveli. That's something at least.
Now if they'd just let us kill Fennorian and Mizzik, that would be a reason to truly celebrate.
Mizzik's okay. Fennorian, Eveli.... just no. My opinion only, I'm aware there are others who love them, so for them I'm happy they get what they want. I actually will be surprised if Eveli doesn't show up since Beragon's included.
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✭✭✭✭Admittedly I could do without Mizzik Thunderboots and Fennorian, but at least we don't get Eveli. That's something at least.
I do like Fennorian (and slightly dislike cat in boots), I just hope he has a good reason to be there. Not like Razum-dar in Galen who was just there because... Razum-dar.
Like others, I liked Eveli in Orsinium but in Blackwood she was a know-it-all and your character just took direction from her mindlessly.
Something changed with Razam-dar too. I liked him in the AD storyline, but in Summerset he was clueless and had lost his charm and wit. In Galen… well I was completely caught off guard by his sudden change in companion preference to say the least. His character is ruined for me.
Maybe it would be good if they took lesser characters and built the story around them instead. Consistency doesn’t seem to be a strong point here when it comes to writing.
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✭✭✭✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »have a zone-wide mystery (‘Where did all this jungle come from?!!’) to solve.
I honestly found that part sounding rather laughable. There's a jungle at the border of the great primal jungle* Valenwood? The shock!
*(Well, Valenwood is supposed to be)[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Eveli is my most despised NPC so I'm happy to hear she won't be around. I really hate that she is supposed to be what I assume is bubbly and cute with her little pigtails (I also hate pigtails) but she just comes across as cringy. I'm glad I won't have to deal with her.PCNA1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »I think they are making a mistake by only recycling a handful of NPCs over & over as returning characters. The Base Game has so much more interesting characters. Like why for instance there are no returning Argonian npcs at all ?
For this particular instance, probably because we’re nowhere near Black Marsh or anything Argonian/Hist related. And a lot of the existing Argonian NPCs don’t really have a viable reason to go wandering either. EX: The major Murkmire NPCs are either dead or helping run the new town. But we’ve see Seeks show up a few times now and it’s not out of the question one or more of our DB Argonians show up in the future. Maybe the guy from Mazzatun could pop in again.
Noooo, I cannot stand that guy and think he’s the reason many people don’t like Argonians!
I was worried we might end up with a character like him when an Argonian companion was announced and am sooo glad Sharp is nothing like him! 0 -
S0Z0H✭✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »For those who missed the stream, Eveli was not mentioned as one of the NPCs who will be participating. 🥳
I acknowledge it’s too early to be sure it will be 100% Eveli-free, but I consider this to be extremely good news for the new Chapter.
Hopefully, by the time we see her again, ZOS will have figured out how to let her have her character develop and keep it outside of the zone it was introduced.
LOL when the guy said " we have some returning friends to aid you on your quest" I was bracing for it. I just did NOT wanna see Sai Sahun or that Giant nord woman again. Ugh. So cringe.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »have a zone-wide mystery (‘Where did all this jungle come from?!!’) to solve.
I honestly found that part sounding rather laughable. There's a jungle at the border of the great primal jungle* Valenwood? The shock!
If it sprung up more or less overnight, yes, although the locals are probably expecting the source to be a a rogue Greensinger not a sparkly new Daedric Prince.
…if this is the stuff the Nedes had to put up with before the pact between Akatosh and Alessia I’m a little surprised the human race still exists. Large swaths of the land turning into volcanoes or jungles overnight would put a damper on farming, and make hunting and foraging tricky too. All those Nedic towers are starting to look like Nirn-equivalent nuclear bunkers.
I’m also wondering if this is the jungle Talos shouts away in two hundred years.#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
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✭✭✭✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »I’m also wondering if this is the jungle Talos shouts away in two hundred years.
Oh! Nice one!
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HappyTheCamper✭✭✭✭✭I will say Evelin’s outfit in Blackwood was great. Credit where credit is due.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭HappyTheCamper wrote: »I will say Evelin’s outfit in Blackwood was great. Credit where credit is due.
Yes, it was. And I happily bought it for three accounts, both PC megaservers.______________________________________________________
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Sailor_Palutena✭✭✭✭thejadefalcon wrote: »TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »You know some people like Eveli.
A lot more people liked Eveli as she was in Wrothgar, not the simplistic parody of her in Blackwood.
We can just pretend Blackwood never happened since it's a one and done story with no overarching consequences lol
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✭✭Why does it matter? Eveli has had a lot of appearances. It would be logical for ZoS to give the spotlight to other less used characters in new content instead of turning a side character like Eveli into a recurring main character.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »have a zone-wide mystery (‘Where did all this jungle come from?!!’) to solve.
I honestly found that part sounding rather laughable. There's a jungle at the border of the great primal jungle* Valenwood? The shock!
If it sprung up more or less overnight, yes, although the locals are probably expecting the source to be a a rogue Greensinger not a sparkly new Daedric Prince.
I'm very much aware, I just found it funny the way they said it
A jungle, near your Valenwood? It's more likely than you think!
That would be a change, because he allegedly shouted it away from having existed in the first place, including in the past.WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »
I’m also wondering if this is the jungle Talos shouts away in two hundred years.[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!0 -
Anumaril✭✭✭✭✭I'm glad some other players share my annoyance for Eveli haha
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Elendir2am✭✭✭✭I would like to see Faraniel again. But they made her Coldharbour quest in a way, which makes it impossible for her to appear again. Same with such great characters like Shazah and Khali.PvP - Recruit.
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✭✭✭Eveli's tendency to over-explain everything in the Blackwood chapter is hardly unique: many other NPCs in the game have done the same. There are forum threads about this. Also, just because she wasn't mentioned in the live stream doesn't mean she won't appear in the chapter: obviously they couldn't mention every single NPC that would be in the chapter, because it would be a long list.PC(Steam) / EU / play from Melbourne, Australia / avg ping 3901 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »I'd like to see them bring back Darien.
Eww. If I never see him again I will be perfectly happy. He has the same affect on me Jakarn does - only worse.______________________________________________________
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But which timeline are we in? The one where he has already shouted away the jungle, or the one he hasn't yet?NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »have a zone-wide mystery (‘Where did all this jungle come from?!!’) to solve.
I honestly found that part sounding rather laughable. There's a jungle at the border of the great primal jungle* Valenwood? The shock!
If it sprung up more or less overnight, yes, although the locals are probably expecting the source to be a a rogue Greensinger not a sparkly new Daedric Prince.
I'm very much aware, I just found it funny the way they said it A jungle, near your Valenwood? It's more likely than you think!
That would be a change, because he allegedly shouted it away from having existed in the first place, including in the past.WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »
I’m also wondering if this is the jungle Talos shouts away in two hundred years.
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✭✭✭✭✭Monte_Cristo wrote: »But which timeline are we in? The one where he has already shouted away the jungle, or the one he hasn't yet?
Both. It's Schrödinger's forest.@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
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Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
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✭I would trade in Fennorian for Eveli in a heartbeat. I really don't like how ZOS is forcing us to be buddies with the undead. It seriously messes with my roll play. All my characters adhere to the principle "the only good vampire is a dusted vampire".Please stop making requests for game features. ZOS have enough bad ideas as it is!2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I would trade in Fennorian for Eveli in a heartbeat. I really don't like how ZOS is forcing us to be buddies with the undead. It seriously messes with my roll play. All my characters adhere to the principle "the only good vampire is a dusted vampire".
It will probably be a side quest that you don't have to do to progress the main story. I don't see a bigger problem, to be honest. There are also side quests with assassin and thief characters, that might not fit every player character, especially when roleplaying more "seriously".@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
Soris Rethandus, a Sleeper not yet awake2 -
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✭✭Side quest or not, the way ZOS tends to force our characters to accept working with vampires is really annoying. Working with thieves and assassins I can generally RP around, but a vampire is a different matter entirely for virtually every character I play.
It's plain and simple bad writing when players are forced to work with vile monsters like vampires like it's the most normal thing in the world.
That's the reason I rarely do the main story of Rivenspire, Greymoor or Markarth/the Reach.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Side quest or not, the way ZOS tends to force our characters to accept working with vampires is really annoying. Working with thieves and assassins I can generally RP around, but a vampire is a different matter entirely for virtually every character I play.
It's plain and simple bad writing when players are forced to work with vile monsters like vampires like it's the most normal thing in the world.
That's the reason I rarely do the main story of Rivenspire, Greymoor or Markarth/the Reach.
Makes two of us. I don't do werewolves either....Edited by TaSheen on January 20, 2024 11:22PM______________________________________________________
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