Aorys wrote: »

You are asking for people to sell their chromium platings for 100k now? Will take months until the price drop down to 1/5 of the base price. That was a funny joke.

The price shown isn't really the point. Pretend it's 20k, 30k, 40k or whatever you're going to list for. The point is one U39 plating price listing is going to look extremely expensive compared to one U40 plating.

So...I immediately lower my Chromium Plating listings to what I think will be the new going rate...other players snap 'em up and relist at today's prices and take the profit I could have gotten.

Not suggesting that was your motivitation but that's surely what would happen.

The market will sort itself out when the changes come, I'm sure.

I suspect that Chromium platings will go for what Chromium Grains are now, once the initial fluctuation has subsided, because that is basically what they are. And that is way more than 10k.

The screenshot shows plating going for 375k. Divide that by 10 and you get 37,500. That is more the price you will see for the new platings. At least on PCNA.

Aorys wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I suspect that Chromium platings will go for what Chromium Grains are now, once the initial fluctuation has subsided, because that is basically what they are. And that is way more than 10k.

The screenshot shows plating going for 375k. Divide that by 10 and you get 37,500. That is more the price you will see for the new platings. At least on PCNA.

lets think we get 1 grain from a daily writ right now and we need 40 to gold a piece. After the update we get 1 plating and need 8 to gold a piece. The logic is that we will gold 5x more stuff, then we pay 1/5 of the base price. 1/5 of 50k will be 10k. But of course it will take some time so the price drop down that much

We don't know what the drop rate of the new platings will be. It may be the same as grains are now but I suspect it will be lower. Also, as an active trader, I'm not lowering my prices that much and I seriously doubt others will, either. Especially when you compare these to tempering alloys and dreugh wax. These sell for 40k plus so why should platings be that much lower?

thorwyn wrote: »

Especially when you compare these to tempering alloys and dreugh wax. These sell for 40k plus so why should platings be that much lower?

Because there are 7 armor slots and just 3 jewelry slots. So you just need 24 chromium upgraders (grains/ancient platings) compared to 56 dreugh wax to gold out your set.

And where even perfected trial body pieces/weapons reconstructs to purple - which means alloy/wax/rosin is still needed - the jewellery from 'modern' trials reconstructs to gold.

Furthermore many builds include one piece of mythic jewellery which requires no platings, making it 2 slots.

Realistically over the medium term (gold) plating prices will settle somewhere between rosin and alloy (but tilted towards rosin) unless the devs introduce another U35-like patch that turns everything upside down again (which I'm hoping they won't at least in the short-mid term because it would be a weird way to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the game).

I don't think it will happen overnight though, is just that price will trend down over months until it settles there.

I agree that prices will change when the update happens. I also agree it would be a bad idea to start selling them now for what you suspect they'll be worth afterwards (and after prices settle).

All current platings will convert to 10 platings when Update 40 hits. So if you sell 1 plating now for what 1 will be worth afterwards the buyer is getting a fantastic deal - they can buy it, wait for the update and get 10 for the price of 1.

If you have any you haven't already listed and you don't think they'll sell before the update it's probably better to wait and list them afterwards (so you don't risk paying the listing fee for an item that won't sell) but if they're already listed it's probably better to leave them because the worst that will happen is you'll have over-priced items on your store for the time between the update going live and you first logging in, then you'll have to take them down and relist at a lower price (with a second listing fee), but they might sell before then and save you the trouble.

But I don't think having over-priced platings on a guild store for a while after the update is a problem. Firstly every guild store I've ever seen always has at least a few absurdly over-priced items, but secondly as many people have said there's going to be a lot of fluctuation in prices while players get used to the new system. I'm fully expecting the new platings to be listed for everything from about 100g each up to more than the current ones cost now, and that the price will eventually settle to about what grains currently cost.

My recommendation is that players do business as usual until the update lauches. Stuff changes, delays happen.

Instead I would delist any platings you have up for sale right before the update.

Many people have have ideas about what player behavior is going to be like and what prices will do.

Just remember that human behavior is unpredictable by nature and doubly so in the virtual worlds of games.

xilfxlegion wrote: »

question ---- this goes for all platings not just chromium right ?

yes.

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

xilfxlegion wrote: »

question ---- this goes for all platings not just chromium right ?

yes.

thank you

and i love your name

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

After next update those platings will be worth almost close to nothing vs what it is worth now. I mean if I have for example 10 platings right now, after the update I will have 10x more, so like 100. On top of that each regular grain will be converted to plating. So most people will have at least 1 almost full stack or even more.

The point is: people will have a lot of them, so who will actually need to buy more ? I mean maybe after like half or one year demand will actually start existing again but I guess it will be less valuable than weapon & armour upgrade materials.

Edit: If I could, what I would advise to do is to do all of the Jewelry Master Crafting writs before the next update, as Blue ones are (apparently) just gonna be deleted from the game and will disappear from your inventory and the purple & gold ones are gonna give significant less writ voucher currency.

No save your writs @Tommy_The_Gun and do them AFTER the update! Blues will no longer drop but current writs will still be usable!

@SpacemanSpiff1 currently on PTS you can still use all existing writs at their current voucher value, including the blue ones.

The new writs from testing appear to be as follows...... no more blue(already stated by ZoS).... new purple wrirs seem to have similar or less voucher numbers to the current blue ones and new gold writs seem to have similar voucher numbers to say gold clothier and blacksmith.

This one manage to sell 4 set of 4 gold tempers for 850K each last week so not all are aware of the change and think they make an steal 😺

xilfxlegion wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

After next update those platings will be worth almost close to nothing vs what it is worth now. I mean if I have for example 10 platings right now, after the update I will have 10x more, so like 100. On top of that each regular grain will be converted to plating. So most people will have at least 1 almost full stack or even more.

The point is: people will have a lot of them, so who will actually need to buy more ? I mean maybe after like half or one year demand will actually start existing again but I guess it will be less valuable than weapon & armour upgrade materials.

Edit: If I could, what I would advise to do is to do all of the Jewelry Master Crafting writs before the next update, as Blue ones are (apparently) just gonna be deleted from the game and will disappear from your inventory and the purple & gold ones are gonna give significant less writ voucher currency.

blue ones will just disappear ?

No, they don't. I've taken a character from Live, who had a blue jewelry writ, that got copied to PTS. Did the writ, and got the full vouchers for it.

The OP and a few other posts are filled with tons of misinformation and false statements.

tmbrinks wrote: »

xilfxlegion wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

After next update those platings will be worth almost close to nothing vs what it is worth now. I mean if I have for example 10 platings right now, after the update I will have 10x more, so like 100. On top of that each regular grain will be converted to plating. So most people will have at least 1 almost full stack or even more.

The point is: people will have a lot of them, so who will actually need to buy more ? I mean maybe after like half or one year demand will actually start existing again but I guess it will be less valuable than weapon & armour upgrade materials.

Edit: If I could, what I would advise to do is to do all of the Jewelry Master Crafting writs before the next update, as Blue ones are (apparently) just gonna be deleted from the game and will disappear from your inventory and the purple & gold ones are gonna give significant less writ voucher currency.

blue ones will just disappear ?

No, they don't. I've taken a character from Live, who had a blue jewelry writ, that got copied to PTS. Did the writ, and got the full vouchers for it.

The OP and a few other posts are filled with tons of misinformation and false statements.

Yeah, it's not changing existing writs. According to the PTS patch notes new master writs received after update 40 will be updated to reflect the change in upgrade costs - so there won't be any new ones requiring blue jewellery and the purple and gold ones will give fewer writ vouchers (in line with master writs for other crafts).

But existing master writs will be unchanged.

(Also in case anyone misread that like I did at first this only affects master writs - blue platings aren't going anywhere, they'll get the same change as the other rarities where grains will turn into full platings and full ones will turn into 10 platings, but nothing will be lost.)

Wolf_Eye wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

xilfxlegion wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

After next update those platings will be worth almost close to nothing vs what it is worth now. I mean if I have for example 10 platings right now, after the update I will have 10x more, so like 100. On top of that each regular grain will be converted to plating. So most people will have at least 1 almost full stack or even more.

The point is: people will have a lot of them, so who will actually need to buy more ? I mean maybe after like half or one year demand will actually start existing again but I guess it will be less valuable than weapon & armour upgrade materials.

Edit: If I could, what I would advise to do is to do all of the Jewelry Master Crafting writs before the next update, as Blue ones are (apparently) just gonna be deleted from the game and will disappear from your inventory and the purple & gold ones are gonna give significant less writ voucher currency.

blue ones will just disappear ?

No, they don't. I've taken a character from Live, who had a blue jewelry writ, that got copied to PTS. Did the writ, and got the full vouchers for it.

The OP and a few other posts are filled with tons of misinformation and false statements.

That explains why blue jewelry writs are suddenly going for 3-5K, when before you couldn't even sell them for 100 gold.

i have crushed thousands of these--- seeing them for 10-15k now