Jewelry Crafting Balancing (answers added)

lillybit · September 2023

There are several things I'm wondering about ahead of PTS. Hopefully others can think of things I've missed and we can all get answers on Monday

1 - Will existing master writs keep their value? Given that guild stores are still full of the old writs from before the values were changed, it seems likely they won't touch them but I'd really like confirmation so I don't have to panic to do them all.
• Existing crafting writs will be unchanged but new ones will use this rebalanced formula. Blue ones will still exist, just not drop new ones. One of the add-ons (Writ Worthy maybe? I'm on console so a bit vague on add-ons!) shows ancient platings needed but this is a bug with the add-on

2 - Will it be easier to level? Currently it takes twice as long as the other crafts, it would be nice if this was more in line too.
• Not an official answer, but with the way most of the rebalance has been handled I feel confident saying this won't have been changed. Hope someone can prove me wrong tho.

3 - Will the grain-plating conversion carry over to the trait mats too? And at 10:1 for whole mats same as whole platings? It would be nice to think the single swift grain sitting in my craft bag (from when I deconned something by mistake) will finally be useful!
• Trait mats are NOT being converted. 'Pulverised' fragments are still the only things dropping from deconning and refining so this will continue to be a massive pain point.

4 - Will all the traits start dropping in the wild now or still be really hard to get? If not will sources for them stay the same or will you at least be able to get them from refining?
• Didn't mention this but said somewhere else quest rewards would only be in the normal 3 so seems unlikely. Refining only drops fragments for the original 3 traits so that seems to further confirm it won't change.

5 - Will it be linked to Summerset still? I think this is likely but you never know.
• Yes, it's still part of Summerset and not moved to base game.

6 - Not sure we'll be able to get answers to these til it goes live but will the Jewelry station furnishing and research scrolls come down to the same price as the other crafts? Connected to this, will JC research scrolls finally start dropping in daily rewards? This is pretty minor, just something I'm curious about.
• No they won't. No change in pricing for (non attuned) jewelry stations and research scrolls.

7 - Will we get hirelings finally?
• No hirelings still.

8 - Will the Shipment of Ounces in writ rewards increase to 15 + 10 from 7 + 3 to match the others?
• No change here either, it's 7+3 still.

9 - Seen people ask if writ rewards will still drop the equivalent of a whole plating now. This seems unlikely, we'll almost certainly lose the guaranteed drop and it'll be the same as other crafts with just the occasional gold. Thought I'd include it for completeness tho.
• Someone got 10 zircon platings from a writ reward but this might have been a bug, will update as more info is available. I did a writ and got a blue plating tho, so it appears the drops haven't been altered in and way and yes, you still get the occasional drop of 10. As a side note, it's still only trait fragments here too.

10 - Will there be dedicated platinum nodes instead of shared with Blacksmithing as they are now?
• No, appears to be exactly the same as on live still.

11 - Will grains currently required for furniture crafting automatically be converted to platings or will they be uncraftable?
• Yes, recipes that required grains have been changed to platings. However ones that needed platings now ask for 10 which seems excessive.

Zodiarkslayer · September 2023

I've been asking those questions myself. Here are my thoughts:
1. I am pretty sure that they will only delete the blue writs from the game, because that is what they stated, right?
2. It didn't sound like this will happen. However it should happen fir balance reasons. Let's ts wait for the patch notes.
3. Again. No mention on this, but it should happen, because of balance.
4. I expect the will stay the same, although they should change and all traits should drop randomly in overland.
5. I think they are pushing it into base game.
6. No idea. Maybe?
7. That MUST happen! I hope they didn't overlook this.
8. Doubtful. The amount was chosen with the lower crafting costs per writ in mind. However, the ratio between cost and return is lower than on the other equipment crafting writs. Maybe a small adjustment is in order?
9. I am sure the drop chances will adjust to the other equipment crafting standards.

@lillybit Two more things.
Will JC finally get a dedicated standalone harvesting node? Sharing with Blacksmithing is one reason why JC mats are so expensive by comparison.
And what do you mean by 15+10 and 7+3? Is there a way to increase the material rewards, that I do not know of? 😱

lillybit · September 2023

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

8. Doubtful. The amount was chosen with the lower crafting costs per writ in mind. However, the ratio between cost and return is lower than on the other equipment crafting writs. Maybe a small adjustment is in order?

@lillybit Two more things.
Will JC finally get a dedicated standalone harvesting node? Sharing with Blacksmithing is one reason why JC mats are so expensive by comparison.
And what do you mean by 15+10 and 7+3? Is there a way to increase the material rewards, that I do not know of? 😱

8. Is it really lower crafting costs? 150 rings are only 10 but necks are 15 so on average it's not far off the others, most other things seem to be around 13.

Very much doubt they'll add dedicated nodes if the didn't when it was first introduced but we can hope! I'll add it to the list

15+10 and 7+3 is the number of mats currently in 'shipment of' boxes from writ rewards - the higher is what you get from other crafts, 15 of your current tier mats and 10 of a random lower one. 7+3 is what's in the JC one, 7 platinum and 3 lower. That's at max level anyway, maybe its less with lower writs?

Zodiarkslayer · September 2023

lillybit wrote: »

15+10 and 7+3 is the number of mats currently in 'shipment of' boxes from writ rewards - the higher is what you get from other crafts, 15 of your current tier mats and 10 of a random lower one. 7+3 is what's in the JC one, 7 platinum and 3 lower. That's at max level anyway, maybe its less with lower writs?

Perfect example if me being stuuupid. Should've thought of that myself.
🤦‍♂️

Irhak · September 2023

lillybit wrote: »

3 - Will the grain-plating conversion carry over to the trait mats too? And at 10:1 for whole mats same as whole platings? It would be nice to think the single swift grain sitting in my craft bag (from when I deconned something by mistake) will finally be useful!

They stated it. 1 grain = 1 new plating. 1 old plating = 10 new platings.
Banked and store grains and platings will convert into ancient one. That's basically just renaming them. And when they go into your backpack they will converted accordinly

DragonRacer · September 2023

I would like to know how Leyawiin Bookcase, Grand Filled will be handled. As far as I know, it's the only furnishing I can think of that requires a zircon GRAIN - not a plating - to craft it. Will that be updated to a plating? Or will this beautiful furnishing become lost to time and uncraftable?

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/leyawiin-bookcase-grand-filled/

Zodiarkslayer · September 2023

DragonRacer wrote: »

I would like to know how Leyawiin Bookcase, Grand Filled will be handled. As far as I know, it's the only furnishing I can think of that requires a zircon GRAIN - not a plating - to craft it. Will that be updated to a plating? Or will this beautiful furnishing become lost to time and uncraftable?

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/leyawiin-bookcase-grand-filled/

I am sure it will change to platings, eventually.

Zodiarkslayer · September 2023

Irhak wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

3 - Will the grain-plating conversion carry over to the trait mats too? And at 10:1 for whole mats same as whole platings? It would be nice to think the single swift grain sitting in my craft bag (from when I deconned something by mistake) will finally be useful!

They stated it. 1 grain = 1 new plating. 1 old plating = 10 new platings.
Banked and store grains and platings will convert into ancient one. That's basically just renaming them. And when they go into your backpack they will converted accordinly

He doesn't mean platings, he means trait mats. You know, like Zinc, Cobalt, Antimony and all the others.

Sordidfairytale · September 2023

DragonRacer wrote: »

I would like to know how Leyawiin Bookcase, Grand Filled will be handled. As far as I know, it's the only furnishing I can think of that requires a zircon GRAIN - not a plating - to craft it. Will that be updated to a plating? Or will this beautiful furnishing become lost to time and uncraftable?

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/leyawiin-bookcase-grand-filled/

If they don't change it to plating, they could make it fit with the other Leyawiin bookcases.

Currently it requires: Heartwood (13), Clean Pelt (10), Ochre (6), Ivory Brigade Clasp (2), Mastic (3), Zircon Grains (1)

They could easily change to: Heartwood (13), Clean Pelt (10), Alchemical Resin (9), Ochre (6), Ivory Brigade Clasp (2), Mastic (3).

It would be nice if they clarified, but we'll see on the PTS soon(ish)™

DragonRacer · September 2023

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

DragonRacer wrote: »

I would like to know how Leyawiin Bookcase, Grand Filled will be handled. As far as I know, it's the only furnishing I can think of that requires a zircon GRAIN - not a plating - to craft it. Will that be updated to a plating? Or will this beautiful furnishing become lost to time and uncraftable?

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/leyawiin-bookcase-grand-filled/

If they don't change it to plating, they could make it fit with the other Leyawiin bookcases.

Currently it requires: Heartwood (13), Clean Pelt (10), Ochre (6), Ivory Brigade Clasp (2), Mastic (3), Zircon Grains (1)

They could easily change to: Heartwood (13), Clean Pelt (10), Alchemical Resin (9), Ochre (6), Ivory Brigade Clasp (2), Mastic (3).

It would be nice if they clarified, but we'll see on the PTS soon(ish)™

Hopefully so. I’m on console so I have to rely on you folks to investigate on my behalf. I did make a thread literally asking about that specific issue the day the Twitch stream ran, but it was highjacked into general talk/speculation about the overall jewelry crafting changes and then a mod moved it to the Crafting subforum and I have since given up on an answer happening there anymore.

Sordidfairytale · September 2023

DragonRacer wrote: »

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

DragonRacer wrote: »

I would like to know how Leyawiin Bookcase, Grand Filled will be handled. As far as I know, it's the only furnishing I can think of that requires a zircon GRAIN - not a plating - to craft it. Will that be updated to a plating? Or will this beautiful furnishing become lost to time and uncraftable?

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/leyawiin-bookcase-grand-filled/

If they don't change it to plating, they could make it fit with the other Leyawiin bookcases.

Currently it requires: Heartwood (13), Clean Pelt (10), Ochre (6), Ivory Brigade Clasp (2), Mastic (3), Zircon Grains (1)

They could easily change to: Heartwood (13), Clean Pelt (10), Alchemical Resin (9), Ochre (6), Ivory Brigade Clasp (2), Mastic (3).

It would be nice if they clarified, but we'll see on the PTS soon(ish)™

Hopefully so. I’m on console so I have to rely on you folks to investigate on my behalf. I did make a thread literally asking about that specific issue the day the Twitch stream ran, but it was highjacked into general talk/speculation about the overall jewelry crafting changes and then a mod moved it to the Crafting subforum and I have since given up on an answer happening there anymore.

I saw that, I'm sorry that happened, it's a good question and something I'll wager that they did not consider. I will seek out this information and let you know as soon as possible.

tsaescishoeshiner · September 2023

1 - Will existing master writs keep their value? Given that guild stores are still full of the old writs from before the values were changed, it seems likely they won't touch them but I'd really like confirmation so I don't have to panic to do them all.

Why would you panic do them all before the rebalance? Whether they reduce or increase the amount of writ vouchers for the writs (it sounds like it said they would do nothing to them), it's still likely to be way more profitable to do them after the rebalance. Because it takes 4 Chromium platings now to do 1 gold master writ, and those 4 platings will turn into 40 platings with update 40, and it'll only require 8 of them to do the master writ after the rebalance.

lillybit · September 2023

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

1 - Will existing master writs keep their value? Given that guild stores are still full of the old writs from before the values were changed, it seems likely they won't touch them but I'd really like confirmation so I don't have to panic to do them all.

Why would you panic do them all before the rebalance? Whether they reduce or increase the amount of writ vouchers for the writs (it sounds like it said they would do nothing to them), it's still likely to be way more profitable to do them after the rebalance. Because it takes 4 Chromium platings now to do 1 gold master writ, and those 4 platings will turn into 40 platings with update 40, and it'll only require 8 of them to do the master writ after the rebalance.

They said on the stream that blue writs will be going away so it wasn't beyond the realms of possibility that they'd just delete them all, and they could've changed existing purple and golds to be much, much less. Unlikely maybe, but not impossible.

I'm not as bothered about which way is most profitable, but vouchers are worth more to me than platings (2 guild houses to look after and new master stations aren't cheap!) so I want to do them at the highest value. It's really good to find out they'll be unchanged so I can happily hoard them to do when they're cheaper

Darkheart · September 2023

Does deconstructing Jewelry give sometimes a plating ?

WhiteCoatSyndrome · September 2023

lillybit wrote: »

3 - Will the grain-plating conversion carry over to the trait mats too? And at 10:1 for whole mats same as whole platings? It would be nice to think the single swift grain sitting in my craft bag (from when I deconned something by mistake) will finally be useful!

This was the first thing I checked, and sadly the Trait stones are NOT getting converted along with the Platings.

I made a thread for it.

lillybit wrote: »

5 - Will it be linked to Summerset still? I think this is likely but you never know.

Master Jewelry station required Summerset.

lillybit · September 2023

Darkheart wrote: »

Does deconstructing Jewelry give sometimes a plating ?

Yes it will, it'll be platings instead of grains

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

3 - Will the grain-plating conversion carry over to the trait mats too? And at 10:1 for whole mats same as whole platings? It would be nice to think the single swift grain sitting in my craft bag (from when I deconned something by mistake) will finally be useful!

This was the first thing I checked, and sadly the Trait stones are NOT getting converted along with the Platings. I made a thread for it.

lillybit wrote: »

5 - Will it be linked to Summerset still? I think this is likely but you never know.

Master Jewelry station required Summerset.

Thanks, I've added your answers to the original post

lillybit · September 2023

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

3 - Will the grain-plating conversion carry over to the trait mats too? And at 10:1 for whole mats same as whole platings? It would be nice to think the single swift grain sitting in my craft bag (from when I deconned something by mistake) will finally be useful!

This was the first thing I checked, and sadly the Trait stones are NOT getting converted along with the Platings. [

@WhiteCoatSyndrome do you know if deconning still only drops fragments? If that was whole mats that would be something at least

Edit: Nevermind, I managed to get on to PTS, you still get fragments. I deconned 20 or so arcane jewelry and got 16 platings but only enough fragments for a single style mat. Can't help thinking this is an oversight, or did they really intend to only fix half the problem?

Sordidfairytale · September 2023

DragonRacer wrote: »

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

DragonRacer wrote: »

I would like to know how Leyawiin Bookcase, Grand Filled will be handled. As far as I know, it's the only furnishing I can think of that requires a zircon GRAIN - not a plating - to craft it. Will that be updated to a plating? Or will this beautiful furnishing become lost to time and uncraftable?

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/leyawiin-bookcase-grand-filled/

If they don't change it to plating, they could make it fit with the other Leyawiin bookcases.

Currently it requires: Heartwood (13), Clean Pelt (10), Ochre (6), Ivory Brigade Clasp (2), Mastic (3), Zircon Grains (1)

They could easily change to: Heartwood (13), Clean Pelt (10), Alchemical Resin (9), Ochre (6), Ivory Brigade Clasp (2), Mastic (3).

It would be nice if they clarified, but we'll see on the PTS soon(ish)™

Hopefully so. I’m on console so I have to rely on you folks to investigate on my behalf. I did make a thread literally asking about that specific issue the day the Twitch stream ran, but it was highjacked into general talk/speculation about the overall jewelry crafting changes and then a mod moved it to the Crafting subforum and I have since given up on an answer happening there anymore.

It requires a zircon plating now.

ESO_player123 · September 2023

I'm not on PTS, so I hope someone is able to answer my question.

Did anyone successfully complete an EXISTING Gold Master Writ (the one that ~600 writ vouchers and supposed to stay unchanged) with the new platings? I think I saw a post where someone was unable to do it.

Necrotech_Master · September 2023

ESO_player123 wrote: »

I'm not on PTS, so I hope someone is able to answer my question.

Did anyone successfully complete an EXISTING Gold Master Writ (the one that ~600 writ vouchers and supposed to stay unchanged) with the new platings? I think I saw a post where someone was unable to do it.

i saw posts saying that people were able to complete pre-patch writs using post-patch platings

the issue that player was running into was a bugged addon that will need to be updated before it goes live

post-patch though, the blue jewelry writs wont exist, purple will have writ values similar to current blue jewelry writs, and gold will have similar voucher amounts to other crafts such as clothing

ESO_player123 · September 2023

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

ESO_player123 wrote: »

I'm not on PTS, so I hope someone is able to answer my question.

Did anyone successfully complete an EXISTING Gold Master Writ (the one that ~600 writ vouchers and supposed to stay unchanged) with the new platings? I think I saw a post where someone was unable to do it.

i saw posts saying that people were able to complete pre-patch writs using post-patch platings

the issue that player was running into was a bugged addon that will need to be updated before it goes live

post-patch though, the blue jewelry writs wont exist, purple will have writ values similar to current blue jewelry writs, and gold will have similar voucher amounts to other crafts such as clothing

Thanks for answering. Like probably many players out there I'm trying to figure out if I should do gold/purple writs now or wait after update (writ vouchers are more valuable to me than platings). If the existing writs voucher value stays the same AND they are not bugged, then waiting seems the right course of action.

DragonRacer · September 2023

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

DragonRacer wrote: »

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

DragonRacer wrote: »

I would like to know how Leyawiin Bookcase, Grand Filled will be handled. As far as I know, it's the only furnishing I can think of that requires a zircon GRAIN - not a plating - to craft it. Will that be updated to a plating? Or will this beautiful furnishing become lost to time and uncraftable?

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/leyawiin-bookcase-grand-filled/

If they don't change it to plating, they could make it fit with the other Leyawiin bookcases.

Currently it requires: Heartwood (13), Clean Pelt (10), Ochre (6), Ivory Brigade Clasp (2), Mastic (3), Zircon Grains (1)

They could easily change to: Heartwood (13), Clean Pelt (10), Alchemical Resin (9), Ochre (6), Ivory Brigade Clasp (2), Mastic (3).

It would be nice if they clarified, but we'll see on the PTS soon(ish)™

Hopefully so. I’m on console so I have to rely on you folks to investigate on my behalf. I did make a thread literally asking about that specific issue the day the Twitch stream ran, but it was highjacked into general talk/speculation about the overall jewelry crafting changes and then a mod moved it to the Crafting subforum and I have since given up on an answer happening there anymore.

It requires a zircon plating now.

Oh, thank you thank you thank you!!

Sordidfairytale · September 2023

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

... post-patch though, the blue jewelry writs wont exist ...

This should say: post-patch though, the blue jewelry writs will no longer be produced but existing blue jewelry writs can be completed and turned in for their current voucher value.

I just completed two to confirm that I would be able to.

McMasterx · September 2023

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

I've been asking those questions myself. Here are my thoughts:
1. I am pretty sure that they will only delete the blue writs from the game, because that is what they stated, right?
2. It didn't sound like this will happen. However it should happen fir balance reasons. Let's ts wait for the patch notes.
3. Again. No mention on this, but it should happen, because of balance.
4. I expect the will stay the same, although they should change and all traits should drop randomly in overland.
5. I think they are pushing it into base game.
6. No idea. Maybe?
7. That MUST happen! I hope they didn't overlook this.
8. Doubtful. The amount was chosen with the lower crafting costs per writ in mind. However, the ratio between cost and return is lower than on the other equipment crafting writs. Maybe a small adjustment is in order?
9. I am sure the drop chances will adjust to the other equipment crafting standards.

@lillybit Two more things.
Will JC finally get a dedicated standalone harvesting node? Sharing with Blacksmithing is one reason why JC mats are so expensive by comparison.
And what do you mean by 15+10 and 7+3? Is there a way to increase the material rewards, that I do not know of? 😱

lillybit wrote: »

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

8. Doubtful. The amount was chosen with the lower crafting costs per writ in mind. However, the ratio between cost and return is lower than on the other equipment crafting writs. Maybe a small adjustment is in order?

@lillybit Two more things.
Will JC finally get a dedicated standalone harvesting node? Sharing with Blacksmithing is one reason why JC mats are so expensive by comparison.
And what do you mean by 15+10 and 7+3? Is there a way to increase the material rewards, that I do not know of? 😱

8. Is it really lower crafting costs? 150 rings are only 10 but necks are 15 so on average it's not far off the others, most other things seem to be around 13.

Very much doubt they'll add dedicated nodes if the didn't when it was first introduced but we can hope! I'll add it to the list

15+10 and 7+3 is the number of mats currently in 'shipment of' boxes from writ rewards - the higher is what you get from other crafts, 15 of your current tier mats and 10 of a random lower one. 7+3 is what's in the JC one, 7 platinum and 3 lower. That's at max level anyway, maybe its less with lower writs?

Are you both unaware of the Jewelry nodes? https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Nodes#Ore_Seams

A Platinum Node

Do these just not show up for people who don't have Jewelry Crafting unlocked?

lillybit · September 2023

McMasterx wrote: »

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

I've been asking those questions myself. Here are my thoughts:
1. I am pretty sure that they will only delete the blue writs from the game, because that is what they stated, right?
2. It didn't sound like this will happen. However it should happen fir balance reasons. Let's ts wait for the patch notes.
3. Again. No mention on this, but it should happen, because of balance.
4. I expect the will stay the same, although they should change and all traits should drop randomly in overland.
5. I think they are pushing it into base game.
6. No idea. Maybe?
7. That MUST happen! I hope they didn't overlook this.
8. Doubtful. The amount was chosen with the lower crafting costs per writ in mind. However, the ratio between cost and return is lower than on the other equipment crafting writs. Maybe a small adjustment is in order?
9. I am sure the drop chances will adjust to the other equipment crafting standards.

@lillybit Two more things.
Will JC finally get a dedicated standalone harvesting node? Sharing with Blacksmithing is one reason why JC mats are so expensive by comparison.
And what do you mean by 15+10 and 7+3? Is there a way to increase the material rewards, that I do not know of? 😱

lillybit wrote: »

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

8. Doubtful. The amount was chosen with the lower crafting costs per writ in mind. However, the ratio between cost and return is lower than on the other equipment crafting writs. Maybe a small adjustment is in order?

@lillybit Two more things.
Will JC finally get a dedicated standalone harvesting node? Sharing with Blacksmithing is one reason why JC mats are so expensive by comparison.
And what do you mean by 15+10 and 7+3? Is there a way to increase the material rewards, that I do not know of? 😱

8. Is it really lower crafting costs? 150 rings are only 10 but necks are 15 so on average it's not far off the others, most other things seem to be around 13.

Very much doubt they'll add dedicated nodes if the didn't when it was first introduced but we can hope! I'll add it to the list

15+10 and 7+3 is the number of mats currently in 'shipment of' boxes from writ rewards - the higher is what you get from other crafts, 15 of your current tier mats and 10 of a random lower one. 7+3 is what's in the JC one, 7 platinum and 3 lower. That's at max level anyway, maybe its less with lower writs?

Are you both unaware of the Jewelry nodes? https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Nodes#Ore_Seams

A Platinum Node

Do these just not show up for people who don't have Jewelry Crafting unlocked?

Platinum nodes are currently shared with Blacksmithing, one spot can randomly come up with either which reduces the amount you can find
- if someone is going around just picking Platinum, which happens a lot, on average half those node will spawn back as ore and that repeats if nobody starts picking ore. @Zodiarkslayer wanted to know if this would change but sadly it doesn't appear so

WhiteCoatSyndrome · September 2023

lillybit wrote: »

McMasterx wrote: »

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

I've been asking those questions myself. Here are my thoughts:
1. I am pretty sure that they will only delete the blue writs from the game, because that is what they stated, right?
2. It didn't sound like this will happen. However it should happen fir balance reasons. Let's ts wait for the patch notes.
3. Again. No mention on this, but it should happen, because of balance.
4. I expect the will stay the same, although they should change and all traits should drop randomly in overland.
5. I think they are pushing it into base game.
6. No idea. Maybe?
7. That MUST happen! I hope they didn't overlook this.
8. Doubtful. The amount was chosen with the lower crafting costs per writ in mind. However, the ratio between cost and return is lower than on the other equipment crafting writs. Maybe a small adjustment is in order?
9. I am sure the drop chances will adjust to the other equipment crafting standards.

@lillybit Two more things.
Will JC finally get a dedicated standalone harvesting node? Sharing with Blacksmithing is one reason why JC mats are so expensive by comparison.
And what do you mean by 15+10 and 7+3? Is there a way to increase the material rewards, that I do not know of? 😱

lillybit wrote: »

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

8. Doubtful. The amount was chosen with the lower crafting costs per writ in mind. However, the ratio between cost and return is lower than on the other equipment crafting writs. Maybe a small adjustment is in order?

@lillybit Two more things.
Will JC finally get a dedicated standalone harvesting node? Sharing with Blacksmithing is one reason why JC mats are so expensive by comparison.
And what do you mean by 15+10 and 7+3? Is there a way to increase the material rewards, that I do not know of? 😱

8. Is it really lower crafting costs? 150 rings are only 10 but necks are 15 so on average it's not far off the others, most other things seem to be around 13.

Very much doubt they'll add dedicated nodes if the didn't when it was first introduced but we can hope! I'll add it to the list

15+10 and 7+3 is the number of mats currently in 'shipment of' boxes from writ rewards - the higher is what you get from other crafts, 15 of your current tier mats and 10 of a random lower one. 7+3 is what's in the JC one, 7 platinum and 3 lower. That's at max level anyway, maybe its less with lower writs?

Are you both unaware of the Jewelry nodes? https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Nodes#Ore_Seams

A Platinum Node

Do these just not show up for people who don't have Jewelry Crafting unlocked?

Platinum nodes are currently shared with Blacksmithing, one spot can randomly come up with either which reduces the amount you can find
- if someone is going around just picking Platinum, which happens a lot, on average half those node will spawn back as ore and that repeats if nobody starts picking ore. @Zodiarkslayer wanted to know if this would change but sadly it doesn't appear so

They do indeed show up for people without Jewelry Crafting, but yeah people will loot those and ONLY those, ignoring the Blacksmithing nodes, that’s why ZOS added a chance for Jewelry dust to drop from the Blacksmithing nodes too, to encourage people to loot both.

Necrotech_Master · September 2023

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

ESO_player123 wrote: »

I'm not on PTS, so I hope someone is able to answer my question.

Did anyone successfully complete an EXISTING Gold Master Writ (the one that ~600 writ vouchers and supposed to stay unchanged) with the new platings? I think I saw a post where someone was unable to do it.

i saw posts saying that people were able to complete pre-patch writs using post-patch platings

the issue that player was running into was a bugged addon that will need to be updated before it goes live

post-patch though, the blue jewelry writs wont exist, purple will have writ values similar to current blue jewelry writs, and gold will have similar voucher amounts to other crafts such as clothing

Thanks for answering. Like probably many players out there I'm trying to figure out if I should do gold/purple writs now or wait after update (writ vouchers are more valuable to me than platings). If the existing writs voucher value stays the same AND they are not bugged, then waiting seems the right course of action.

i would definitely recommend waiting, in fact i definitely recommend not doing anything that consumes jewelry tempers lol

i think after the patch the price will take a few months to settle down, likely green-purple jewelry tempers will become super cheap due to the enormous amounts of stuff like dolmen/dragon farming, as those only drop jewelry as is

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

... post-patch though, the blue jewelry writs wont exist ...

This should say: post-patch though, the blue jewelry writs will no longer be produced but existing blue jewelry writs can be completed and turned in for their current voucher value.

I just completed two to confirm that I would be able to.

yeah i never meant existing ones couldnt be completed, was more referring to drops from the daily writs lol

Zodiarkslayer · September 2023

McMasterx wrote: »

Are you both unaware of the Jewelry nodes? https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Nodes#Ore_Seams

A Platinum Node

Do these just not show up for people who don't have Jewelry Crafting unlocked?

🤦‍♂️ ...

Blacksmithing and Jewelry Crafting share the mining node. At random, the game will decide which one will spawn.
In my experience out of ten mining nodes I come across 4 will be empty, 4 will be ores and only 2 will be seams.
With a dedicated, i.e. no sharing with any other craft, you would have 6 seams out of 10 nodes.

6 is more than 2. That is why my question is important. To establish whether the devs are planning to do something about platinum availability as well.

Necrotech_Master · September 2023

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

McMasterx wrote: »

Are you both unaware of the Jewelry nodes? https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Nodes#Ore_Seams

A Platinum Node

Do these just not show up for people who don't have Jewelry Crafting unlocked?

🤦‍♂️ ...

Blacksmithing and Jewelry Crafting share the mining node. At random, the game will decide which one will spawn.
In my experience out of ten mining nodes I come across 4 will be empty, 4 will be ores and only 2 will be seams.
With a dedicated, i.e. no sharing with any other craft, you would have 6 seams out of 10 nodes.

6 is more than 2. That is why my question is important. To establish whether the devs are planning to do something about platinum availability as well.

i actually get a majority of my platinum deconning dropped jewelry, if your running a max level character, every jewelry you pick up will decon to some platinum (i think i have around 10k platinum right now)