Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

JerBearESO wrote: »

Lebkuchen wrote: »

After so many years you should know what they think of the PvP community. It would be best if one of you could just buy Cyrodiil and fix it with the help of another dev team. Make a whole new game. I would buy it.

This is an interesting point of view. I have always felt that the cryo concept done right could be it's very own amazingly successful stand alone title. I wonder why they overlook just how big a thing this could be.

I would say their current design attracts well under a percent of it's potential, as far as player base. This has always been the thing that is perpetually ALMOST the biggest thing in gaming, from my point of view. It's like they honestly have no idea of the gold mine they are sitting on....

I brought it up awhile ago, but if you look at the list of games being sold, the best selling games tend to all be PvP games. Regardless of where you look, it will take quite some time before you find a singleplayer or an only cooperative one.

Last I checked, Hogwarts Legacy was the only one on that list, and that’s singleplayer, which begs the question; why do people believe cooperative games sell better than PvP ones?

The challenge with PvP games is that if they fail they tend to fail harder than PvE because losing players can more frequently produce viscous cycles where you lose more players because of the loss of players.

A big part of what makes PvP games fun is the people they draw in. You can easily find a game you used to love to PvP in isn't fun anymore if you come back after a few years because the environment has changed due to the people even if the game hasn't had any patches.

For every Overwatch, you've got several Lawbreakers/Crucible/Battleborn type games that don't succeed.