Winterhold's been on the docket since 2014 or so as I recall. It was supposedly the 'next thing' after Craglorn and Murkmire (The latter of which was obviously delayed after the adventure zone concept proved a disaster). We haven't heard anything about it since.

I hope so OP

I really wanted to see Winterhold before the collapse, and Whiterun too for old times sake. I was soooooooooo disappointed when I saw they weren't in game T_T

Winterhold is impossible for them to do so, that area of ​​the Tamriel map is occupied by Eastmarch.

They would have to remap Tamriel to add Winterhold and they never will.

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

I doubt we‘ll ever get something Hammerfell related, that‘s were TES VI is taking place. Is that causing conflict? Not really, but I think they’re keeping that place as unknown and mysterious as possible for the franchise‘s main entry.

Nowhere has this been hinted. At one point TES V was in production at the same time as ESO, but ESO still has Skyrim.

We also already have Alik'r, Craglorn, and Hew's Bane, which are Hammerfell regions.

Your last sentence doesn’t change my initial statement though. And I’ve never said it‘s been confirmed, it‘s heavily hinted and become consensus right now in the fanbase. Can it still be something else? Absolutely. But it‘s our best guess. Obviously it needs to have parts of every provein

Carlos93 wrote: »

Winterhold is impossible for them to do so, that area of ​​the Tamriel map is occupied by Eastmarch.

They would have to remap Tamriel to add Winterhold and they never will.

Winterhold is not located where Eastmarch is on the ESO map. If you check other Tamriel maps, you can see that Winterhold is basically the little tip in midst of the Central Skyrim region.

The entire Eastmarch zone on the world map is completely done wrong. Where Windhelm is there should be Blacklight, at best. Definitely not Windhelm (if they would do it correctly, Blacklight wouldn’t be there either and Solstheim would be somewhere else, too, but they needed to squeeze Bleakrock Isle into that area and then had to move Solstheim to the West).

Winterhold should be exactly where I marked it on the ESO map (see attachment). This is based on a simple map of Tamriel:




By the way, this is where Eastmarch should be located on the ESO map:

Seraphayel wrote: »

By the way, this is where Eastmarch should be located on the ESO map:

I love your corrected map of Tamriel. Eastmarch, Solstheim, Bleakrock and Shadowfen moved to their "correct" location according to the lore and previous games.

Ashnarug wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

By the way, this is where Eastmarch should be located on the ESO map:

I love your corrected map of Tamriel. Eastmarch, Solstheim, Bleakrock and Shadowfen moved to their "correct" location according to the lore and previous games.

Yeah, it‘s way better and a lore correct version of the map. Credit where credit‘s due, this was created by some very committed fans, I just like to link it when there‘s discussion about ESOs world map and how inaccurate it is.

Source: https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info3377-AccurateWorldMap.html

see below

Phanex wrote: »

Honestly, other than the lack of bosemer additions in the last few years, I'd rather go and visit Akavir.

New world.
New races.
New faces.
New baddies.
New everything.

The programmers and story board leaders can do almost anything they want to in this land and it won't affect all the lore already generated over the years.

Even if Bethesda gave the okay, and I doubt they would, I would very much prefer it if our first look at Akavir wasn't done by Zenimax. Zos tends to be hit-or-miss when it comes to designing original content/lore vs building off of Bethesda nostalgia.

But ultimately I'm with Todd on this one. Akavir is better off remaining mysterious and unexplored.

@Carlos93

As the Skyrim maps show, Winterhold is very close to North of Eastmarch/Windhelm.

Here's the thing: explore the actual in-game zone of Eastmarch. It, itself doesn't, in fact, contradict what we see in Skyrim. You can see the same two routes that would lead to Winterhold in TES5: one to the north (initially along west bank of the White(?) River), and the other that leads west of Giant's Run Dolmen, and off-map would shortly dogleg north-east and curves around the base of Mount Anthor to Winterhold.

In ESO, the route along the river is inaccessible (because the mountains extend right to the water): it could easily be remodelled. Same for the western route. A slope leading up past Giant's Run Dolmen would be so easy to implement.

As such, the Eastmarch zone map isn't terribly wrong, either.

The **real** problem is the **world** map, which places the Eastmarch silhouette such that it incorrectly suggests its directly on the Sea of Ghosts, with nothing north of it. This is probably because the WORLD map used the TES1: ARENA map of Tamriel, even though the zones used the more recent Skyrim ones.

ZOS have shown no hesitation in the past in adjusting the WORLD map when it suites them- see changes with Velothi Highlands, Vvardenfell, and then the Eastern Peninsula. They just change them when it comes time to cover that part of the map.

I think some of the base game zone stuff could be drastically improved. Eastmarch's border with The Rift is a poor approximation of what we saw in TES5, though its clear its meant to be the same. With the far superior attention to detail and skill the team has demonstrated with literally anything post-launch, I dream of how much better they might render the whole zone today.

But its not impossible to add Winterhold by any means, *if* they were inclined to do so.



Edited to add a map that demonstrates what I'm talking about. Also, sorry about the tone, hope I don't sound too neckbeardy about this lol.




With this space, they could easily cut the map off immediately west of Winterhold City (due to the mountains) or extend it all the way to Dawnstar or beyond, to what we see in W. Skyrim. Its also apparent to me, too, that if they **wanted** to- if they included the tundra part north of Windhelm, they're tantalisingly close to Dunmeth Pass and Blacklight. Just putting that out there.

The way I see it, the problem is the Skuldafn location on the Eastmarch zone map overlays part of the adjacent region, which would become the zone with Blacklight. That placement is somewhat arbitrary, as you go there via an underground passage, so accurate mapping would be difficult. All we really know is that it’s high up in the mountains.

It is also probably allocated too large an area on the world map, leaving no room for the coastal area between it and the sea. Just shrinking Skuldafn on the world map would fix most of it.

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

@Carlos93

As the Skyrim maps show, Winterhold is very close to North of Eastmarch/Windhelm.

Here's the thing: explore the actual in-game zone of Eastmarch. It, itself doesn't, in fact, contradict what we see in Skyrim. You can see the same two routes that would lead to Winterhold in TES5: one to the north (initially along west bank of the White(?) River), and the other that leads west of Giant's Run Dolmen, and off-map would shortly dogleg north-east and curves around the base of Mount Anthor to Winterhold.

In ESO, the route along the river is inaccessible (because the mountains extend right to the water): it could easily be remodelled. Same for the western route. A slope leading up past Giant's Run Dolmen would be so easy to implement.

As such, the Eastmarch zone map isn't terribly wrong, either.

The **real** problem is the **world** map, which places the Eastmarch silhouette such that it incorrectly suggests its directly on the Sea of Ghosts, with nothing north of it. This is probably because the WORLD map used the TES1: ARENA map of Tamriel, even though the zones used the more recent Skyrim ones.

ZOS have shown no hesitation in the past in adjusting the WORLD map when it suites them- see changes with Velothi Highlands, Vvardenfell, and then the Eastern Peninsula. They just change them when it comes time to cover that part of the map.

I think some of the base game zone stuff could be drastically improved. Eastmarch's border with The Rift is a poor approximation of what we saw in TES5, though its clear its meant to be the same. With the far superior attention to detail and skill the team has demonstrated with literally anything post-launch, I dream of how much better they might render the whole zone today.

But its not impossible to add Winterhold by any means, *if* they were inclined to do so.



Edited to add a map that demonstrates what I'm talking about. Also, sorry about the tone, hope I don't sound too neckbeardy about this lol.




With this space, they could easily cut the map off immediately west of Winterhold City (due to the mountains) or extend it all the way to Dawnstar or beyond, to what we see in W. Skyrim. Its also apparent to me, too, that if they **wanted** to- if they included the tundra part north of Windhelm, they're tantalisingly close to Dunmeth Pass and Blacklight. Just putting that out there.

The base game The Elder Scrolls Online PVE maps are designed to complete the zones to level up for competitive PVP play.

With the previous DLCs the chapters added PVE world abilities and PVP maps.

Since 2017 they have been releasing chapters with stories, maps to complete the content and achieve achievements.
After doing all this, the map is only good for walking around the world and destroying enemy NPCs.

Players who have already completed all of the base game, DLCs, and chapters return for the events.

What I mean is that the PVE game is not focused on world exploration.

I would like to explore thick snowy forests and be surprised by a freeze spider or other typical Skyrim animal from the bushes.

I would like to explore forests of giant mushrooms and get lost in the ash deserts of Vvardenfell.

I would like to explore big city maps where you need a map so you don't get lost in the cities.

I would like to play as a miner extracting minerals from the mines, owning a mine and managing the workers, I would like to have businesses in the cities of the game.

Play as the player wants in the PVE world.

When I get tired of working in the mine, go clear out a bandit camp or get lost exploring the maps.

I would prefer that with the expansions they take a small piece of the map, but this map is a large explorable area (I loved the High Isle map for this reason).

The map is wrong from the base game.

But it's too late to change anything.

Many gamers follow content creators if the competition pays them more to promote another game.
Players who follow them will follow them to that game.

The Elder Scrolls Online should be a game where you can do everything in PVE.

Being a warrior, a rich merchant with businesses all over Tamriel, an assassin, a prisoner in the city prison, a beggar, a spy, a cook, a pirate, etc.

PVP should have more modes and be accessible to more players from other game types (not necessarily combat focused).

Thank you very much for your time.

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

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I doubt we‘ll ever get something Hammerfell related, that‘s were TES VI is taking place. Is that causing conflict? Not really, but I think they’re keeping that place as unknown and mysterious as possible for the franchise‘s main entry.

If i was bethesda, drring tes6 release year, i would use eso as a sort of prologue for it. Like maybe have some sort of artefact apear in both or the eso chapter main quest being the foundation of a storyline in tes 6. For an exemple let say eso existed prior to skyrim and they did this. Some plot point we could tie in eso could have been (assuming zos and bgs worked together to create this what if lore): the fall of the dawnstar dark brotherhood sanctuary, when the companion became werewolves or even a much earlier winterhold colapse. [/quote]

I strongly suspect that ZOS has a Hammerfell story planned to do just that, and they've had it ready for a while but Bethesda keeps holding them back because they REFUSE to reveal any new information about the damn game. One we get more ES6 info, I think they'll drop that Hammerfell chapter.

BlueRaven wrote: »

So, let’s see…

We had Greymoor - Which highlighted Nords

Blackwood - Which highlighted imperials and Argonians

High Isle - Which highlighted Bretons

Necrom - Which highlighted Dark Elves

That’s 3 out the last 4, if I didn’t forget one.

Can we get something for a different faction before going back to EP? Wood Elves, Redguard, and Orcs are due for some love really.

Can't really do much with Wood Elves, given Valenwood is complete, unless they go Off-Nirn.

Orcs have a pocket between Wrothgar and Skyrim that could get some attention.

Redguard seems to be the biggest one that is missing some love.