Make sorc birds less distracting?

Daoin · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

is this not the same asking maw set not to step on your toes while your tanking and completely blocking the view of the target ?

NotaDaedraWorshipper · May 2023

madman65 wrote: »

Can we get them changed to a little bigger than a Nixad?

nixads are bugs, not daedra.

Grim_Overlord · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

I voted to make them smaller, though honestly I would also love to see the Twilight have one morph that is a different, smaller daedra altogether similar to how Familiar can be a Scamp or a Clannfear. The one that I had been thinking would be a good fit was a Watcher but with Arcanist's ultimate that is out the window. Either way the pets for Sorcerer are very distracting due to their size and could also do with a reskin or texture update to boot. I have found myself distancing myself from playing on my Sorcerer, who I alternate as my main with my Necro, because of how obnoxious the Twilight is.

AScarlato · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

I actually deleted my sorc as I didn’t enjoy the no pet builds, and the matriarch was so annoying she constantly was in front of npcs during conversations and also partially in view with flaps which are awful visually and audibly. Only time she wasnt at least somewhat in my vision was if I was sprinting away from her.

Literally the worst pet I’ve ever had in an mmo, as someone who regularly plays summoners.

I know I could also constantly unsummon and resummon but since it’s quite inconvenient to do so it’s not something I wanted to do every few minutes I stopped moving to talk to someone or idle.

MidniteOwl1913 · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

Flappy is annoying, I often just don't play my sorc.

I have no idea why anyone thought wings in the face was the way to go.

LunaFlora · May 2023

Keep the current version

i just want to be able to not see them. the wings are fine how they are and are not the problem. the combat pets move weirdly compared to players and an option for not seeing combat pets anywhere would be u
more useful

logan68 · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

I think everyone agrees or almost. But they haven't changed it so it might be time to stop beating what appears to be a dead horse.

Daiyanae · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

This one is just personal to me and probably no one else has this problem; I use to look forward to playing ESO so very much, I would wake after just enough sleep to be functional, excited to continue whatever I had been doing in ESO before sleeping. And crafting, harvesting, questing were my main things. Then comes more twilights into the areas. (Thank the gods, bears don't have wings!) And now, I'm usually frustrated mentally, and grumpy, after crafting writs on 13 characters. I end up thinking about ways to eliminate the frustrating flapping in the crafting areas. What city can I go to, to get away from it?

Daedra loving Sorcs are people too and entitled to their pets, after all. I just want to get away from them and still do MY thing.

And I certainly agree this is a dead horse. But I wonder... has any dead horse EVER been resurrected by continual nagging? Surely the gods will provide a solution ? ...

AScarlato · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

As far as this being a dead horse.... I think that just shows to go how poorly designed the pets are for Sorc, particularly Matriarch. I've seen comments about this for years now.

I don't have this level of irritation with summoned pets in other MMOs, but they really managed to make the Matriarch as irritating to the player themselves, let alone others.

I noticed even some of the votes for "keep as is" then go on to comment that they want ways to avoid seeing them entirely, game-wide. There is a special issue with these pets if so many need ways to remove them from vision as opposed to tweaks (making smaller, maybe have them stand further behind you so they aren't always partially on your screen).

StarOfElyon · May 2023

Keep the current version

They don't bother me.

Gargath · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

Annoying flapping wings. I can't like the players who use the matriarchs or group with someone who use them, without feeling frustration. I think ZOS has more than enough incentives to finally address this problem for a quick solution. They invent so many flashing new mounts, new abilities, armor sets, motifs, while being unable to solve this simple problem.

Constant flapping in banks, around crafting stations, people running in a group with matriarch + familiar + companion + non-combat pet. Incoming from all directions, messing view in towns. There are flapping wings entering quest instance view when we talk with npc - a bug, very annoying - not dealt with. Or the matriarch flapping directly inside banker stand in Vivec, where no player can jump in, but the matriarch can...

SoraJP · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

Voted for a change, but really we just need skins, like the slate grey bear for the warden. Its already in the game, but ZOS just needs to make more and sell them.

The only reason I can see that they haven't done it already, is that it will only be applicable to 1 or 2 classes, thus limiting the market. That being said, it is very highly requested, and wouldn't take much effort on their part.

AScarlato · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

Unfortunately I'm wondering if the reason we aren't getting these skins or changes because of PVP. There probably are some players who purposely use pets because they get in the way, and if thier hit box was smaller would feel some sort of unbalance.

Just throwing that out there and hope that isn't a reason why they cant be made tinier or less intrusive.

Marcus684 · May 2023

AScarlato wrote: »

Unfortunately I'm wondering if the reason we aren't getting these skins or changes because of PVP. There probably are some players who purposely use pets because they get in the way, and if thier hit box was smaller would feel some sort of unbalance.

Just throwing that out there and hope that isn't a reason why they cant be made tinier or less intrusive.

ZOS has made it very obvious they don't avoid making changes to mollify PvPers. In fact, they often make changes due to what they decide is an unfair advantage in PvP, and having your pet take hits intended for you is definitely an advantage, although it's offset by the loss of the pet's heals and damage.

I'm guessing ZOS hasn't done anything to change sorc pets because they haven't seen it as a priority for their limited design and programming resources. Or maybe, they're working on it now and just haven't told us *crosses fingers and toes*

AScarlato · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

Marcus684 wrote: »

AScarlato wrote: »

Unfortunately I'm wondering if the reason we aren't getting these skins or changes because of PVP. There probably are some players who purposely use pets because they get in the way, and if thier hit box was smaller would feel some sort of unbalance.

Just throwing that out there and hope that isn't a reason why they cant be made tinier or less intrusive.

ZOS has made it very obvious they don't avoid making changes to mollify PvPers. In fact, they often make changes due to what they decide is an unfair advantage in PvP, and having your pet take hits intended for you is definitely an advantage, although it's offset by the loss of the pet's heals and damage.

I'm guessing ZOS hasn't done anything to change sorc pets because they haven't seen it as a priority for their limited design and programming resources. Or maybe, they're working on it now and just haven't told us *crosses fingers and toes*

I hope so too, though it wasn't very obvious to me or quite a few people apparently. One of the more common complaints I see is that there isn't a clear separation fo PVP and PVE when it comes to their decision-making.

boi_anachronism_ · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

Amottica wrote: »

I’ve never found them to be a distraction even when pet Sorc builds were in raids I was in.

Parsing with them is absolutely awful. I cant see anything

ArchangelIsraphel · May 2023

Keep the current version

Just give sorcs the ability to reskin them with smaller skins. I bet 99% of them would love to make them look like anything other than a flying piece of pre-chewed gum.

M0ntie · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

Reskinning the sorc pets has been requested over and over. This is essentially the same thing.
Especially the flappy bird is way too big. By default it should be half size.
And give the option to reskin it as something else.

Marcus684 · May 2023

M0ntie wrote: »

Reskinning the sorc pets has been requested over and over. This is essentially the same thing.
Especially the flappy bird is way too big. By default it should be half size.
And give the option to reskin it as something else.

And have it stop flapping when the sorc is standing still.

robwolf666 · May 2023

Keep the current version

Keep them, just move them a bit further away so they're not whacking me in the head with their wings, or standing inside me, when I'm idling or talking to people... same goes for the other pets.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · May 2023

AScarlato wrote: »

Unfortunately I'm wondering if the reason we aren't getting these skins or changes because of PVP. There probably are some players who purposely use pets because they get in the way, and if thier hit box was smaller would feel some sort of unbalance.

Just throwing that out there and hope that isn't a reason why they cant be made tinier or less intrusive.

Why would skins change the hit box? The hit box doesn't have to change just because a skin makes it look different and slightly smaller.

Destai · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Other.

I want my Twilight Matriarch to be a nyxad pocket pixie healer. Seriously.

This is the way.

AScarlato · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

AScarlato wrote: »

Unfortunately I'm wondering if the reason we aren't getting these skins or changes because of PVP. There probably are some players who purposely use pets because they get in the way, and if thier hit box was smaller would feel some sort of unbalance.

Just throwing that out there and hope that isn't a reason why they cant be made tinier or less intrusive.

Why would skins change the hit box? The hit box doesn't have to change just because a skin makes it look different and slightly smaller.

Some of us aren't interested in equally large skins that I guess would also have to hover to keep the hit box in the same spot. Also why would smaller objects have the same hit box?

ACamaroGuy · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

They get in the way of your view. Have them fly lower & make them smaller.

FeedbackOnly · May 2023

Keep the current version

Sorcerer pets have rights too!

CGPsaint · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

Either make the pets translucent/transparent when they're directly blocking your eyesight, or else make them much smaller. Think Nixad smaller. I have played a MagSorc from day one and even I find the Matriarch to be highly irritating.

TheImperfect · May 2023

Just option to hide them (and only them because everything else is ok) would be nice.

Aorys · May 2023

Make sorc birds half the size and make them not flip wings

make the players on the ignore list invisible, and their pets ^^

swook33b16_ESO · May 2023

More Options would be nice. Like different kinds of Deadra to choose from. Just like the Wardens bear companions, more options to get like wolf companion or deer or you know different kinds of animals to choose from and also white bear skin (Polar bear look) Maybe as a small quest for each animals to unlock as options in the collection, special window.

jtm1018 · May 2023

What now?
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