It seems from Update 37 to Update 38 these sets have had their spelling changed

• Judgement of Akatosh -> Judgment of Akatosh
• Langour of Peryite -> Languor of Peryite

Wondering if these changes were intentional as they were not mentioned in the patch notes.

Gamanoid wrote: »

It seems from Update 37 to Update 38 these sets have had their spelling changed

• Judgement of Akatosh -> Judgment of Akatosh
• Langour of Peryite -> Languor of Peryite

Wondering if these changes were intentional as they were not mentioned in the patch notes.

Langour isn’t a word, while Languor is, so I think this one is a long-overdue spelling fix. It should have been mentioned, though.

Judgement vs. judgment is a regional difference (except for certain legal circumstances, as far as I recall). Judgment is the usual spelling in American English.

virtus753 wrote: »

Gamanoid wrote: »

It seems from Update 37 to Update 38 these sets have had their spelling changed

• Judgement of Akatosh -> Judgment of Akatosh
• Langour of Peryite -> Languor of Peryite

Wondering if these changes were intentional as they were not mentioned in the patch notes.

Langour isn’t a word, while Languor is, so I think this one is a long-overdue spelling fix. It should have been mentioned, though.

Judgement vs. judgment is a regional difference (except for certain legal circumstances, as far as I recall). Judgment is the usual spelling in American English.

That might explain why the guild search wasn't working properly for those sets. It was really frustrating. Likely the spellings in the UI were off from the backend spellings.

The Esoteric Environment Greaves mythic doesn't work for me. Stamina doesn't go down and damage taken is the same whether I wear the mythic or not. @ZOS_GinaBruno Tested with Betty Netch and Alit mobs in Stonefalls.

DrNukenstein wrote: »

Frenzied momentum won't generate stacks until you actually cast momentum/morphs while in combat. Big usability issue for the best back bar arena weapon in the game.

That was intentional:
"Frenzied Momentum and Spectral Cloak: These sets will now only apply their effects if you cast their respective ability requirements while in combat."

I think they are trying to stop players from pre-buffing those effects and then gear swapping before heading into combat.

Moltab wrote: »

The new mythic Velothi Ur-Mage's Amulet does not buff certain sources of damage:
Proc sets
Status effects
Weapon enchants

These effects do not gain the additional % damage, nor the crit damage, which probably means they do not get the penetration either.

Video example of my testing this:
https://youtu.be/i98TEnFZTaU

This is likely intended behavior because those sources are not actually classified as player abilities.

Previous patch notes have contained a bunch of errata explaining how they have changed glyphs, status effects, etc. to be treated as procs rather than as actions that they player takes. And then being treated as procs comes with the typical stipulations of not proccing other procs, etc.

We can observe Serpent's Disdain not working in Ravenwatch and status effects not proccing Plaguebreak as examples of this in action.

In these same patch notes, we also see how Ozezan was patched to obey this rule (though, TBH, I don't like the rule) rather than continuing to proc off of proc heal sets like Hiti's.

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Moltab wrote: »

The new mythic Velothi Ur-Mage's Amulet does not buff certain sources of damage:
Proc sets
Status effects
Weapon enchants

These effects do not gain the additional % damage, nor the crit damage, which probably means they do not get the penetration either.

Video example of my testing this:
https://youtu.be/i98TEnFZTaU

This is likely intended behavior because those sources are not actually classified as player abilities.

Previous patch notes have contained a bunch of errata explaining how they have changed glyphs, status effects, etc. to be treated as procs rather than as actions that they player takes. And then being treated as procs comes with the typical stipulations of not proccing other procs, etc.

We can observe Serpent's Disdain not working in Ravenwatch and status effects not proccing Plaguebreak as examples of this in action.

In these same patch notes, we also see how Ozezan was patched to obey this rule (though, TBH, I don't like the rule) rather than continuing to proc off of proc heal sets like Hiti's.

I’d buy this if the set said “increases damage done with abilities” rather than “increases damage done.” CP that increases damage done increases all damage of its type - Thaumaturge buffs status effect DoTs, for example. Same with Major/Minor Berserk and Slayer - they increase all damage done, except Oblivion. There is no reason for an inconsistency between CP and buffs versus this new mythic. If they mean to say “abilities only,” they need to specify that.

Likewise, a proc set like Deadly Strike buffs all dots (and channels), including status effects and siege weapons, so it’s obviously not the case that something that increases damage in general should selectively ignore proc damage.

We also know that procs DO proc procs - look at how Runecarver’s procs Burning and Rele procs Sundered. Status effects (being procs) don’t proc proc sets (e.g. Catalyst) but procs sets do proc status effects even when it’s not explicitly in their tooltip. So sometimes procs don’t proc procs in one direction but do in the reverse direction.

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Moltab wrote: »

The new mythic Velothi Ur-Mage's Amulet does not buff certain sources of damage:
Proc sets
Status effects
Weapon enchants

These effects do not gain the additional % damage, nor the crit damage, which probably means they do not get the penetration either.

Video example of my testing this:
https://youtu.be/i98TEnFZTaU

This is likely intended behavior because those sources are not actually classified as player abilities.

Previous patch notes have contained a bunch of errata explaining how they have changed glyphs, status effects, etc. to be treated as procs rather than as actions that they player takes. And then being treated as procs comes with the typical stipulations of not proccing other procs, etc.

We can observe Serpent's Disdain not working in Ravenwatch and status effects not proccing Plaguebreak as examples of this in action.

In these same patch notes, we also see how Ozezan was patched to obey this rule (though, TBH, I don't like the rule) rather than continuing to proc off of proc heal sets like Hiti's.

I’d buy this if the set said “increases damage done with abilities” rather than “increases damage done.” CP that increases damage done increases all damage of its type - Thaumaturge buffs status effect DoTs, for example. Same with Major/Minor Berserk and Slayer - they increase all damage done, except Oblivion. There is no reason for an inconsistency between CP and buffs versus this new mythic. If they mean to say “abilities only,” they need to specify that.

Likewise, a proc set like Deadly Strike buffs all dots (and channels), including status effects and siege weapons, so it’s obviously not the case that something that increases damage in general should selectively ignore proc damage.

We also know that procs DO proc procs - look at how Runecarver’s procs Burning and Rele procs Sundered. Status effects (being procs) don’t proc proc sets (e.g. Catalyst) but procs sets do proc status effects even when it’s not explicitly in their tooltip. So sometimes procs don’t proc procs in one direction but do in the reverse direction.

It's likely a lazy tooltip, then.

This also makes sense as cramming all of that damage into a single Mythic would be CRAZILY OP, even by the "release OP Mythic to drive sales of Chapter" standards of the past.

As someone else mentioned in this thread, excluding proc sets brings some semblance of balance to this set.

It may be intentional, but if so the tooltip is badly worded, buffs like Major Slayer or Major Berserk do not work in this way while having the same tooltip of damage done.

What is a bigger concern is not that the damage does not apply but rather the crit damage and the penetration. This means some of your damage sources will have higher pen and crit damage than others which means you will either have to go over the cap on 70% of your damage, which is a waste, or go under pen/crit on 20-30% of your damage which is a loss.

The Esoteric Environment Greaves ability goes away if your stamina falls below 33% and stays off until re-equipping the item. Anything that (presumably) causes a reset of your resources, such as dying, changing skills through respec, or changing zone, will cause this to happen.

This also causes the visual to disappear, as I'm sure is intended to happen while the ability isn't working.