I've played the game since beta, and I definitely be super sad when I start seeing people going around with their Imgakin Monkey pet.

Wow wrote: »

I've played the game since beta, and I definitely be super sad when I start seeing people going around with their Imgakin Monkey pet.

this new player just want a cake in her own house,you can avoid entering the house then you wont sad

I think the cakes are a nice way to recognize how long players have had the game.
To offer them to new players who weren't playing during those years makes them worthless to me.
Sorry to new players, but let those of us who have played those years have SOMETHING that is unique for us!
They brought back Indriks so new players could get them - I no longer use mine and no longer consider them 'special'. They were another thing that was fun and recognized when players were active.
Geez, leave us something for heaven's sake.

evymyu233 wrote: »

:'( i agree!new players need cakes too

New players get the new cake.

It’s great games have things that are exclusive to older players.

krashd wrote: »

Wow wrote: »

I've played the game since beta, and I definitely be super sad when I start seeing people going around with their Imgakin Monkey pet.

I can make you feel worse. I played the game in beta then left, I came back last year and my account was still there just dormant, so I've been something of a noob over the past year but I've been a noob with Raisins, my wee monkey friend.

Raisins isn't about "noob" or "elite" or "endgame player", as I see it. The monkey is about playing the game at a certain point in time. If they meet the criteria by playing during that time, then they get the monkey. It doesn't matter whether they have been playing continuously since then, or took 9 years off between logins.

I feel similarly about the anniversary cakes. If a person had a valid account in an Anniversary year, but was unable to claim the cake, they should still be able to get it. It shouldn't matter that they were playing during that week. Conversely, if they didn't even have an account during that year, then the cake isn't for them.

Aside... Anyone remember that early anniversary events were more PowerPoint events than Anniversary events. The cake may not have been a lie, but for some people it might as well have been.

You can buy all the Replica Cakes going back to 2016 from the Impresario.

Nestor wrote: »

You can buy all the Replica Cakes going back to 2016 from the Impresario.

Only if you collected the cakes.

Apparently, despite being here since the 2016 cake, I do not have the option to purchase a 2017 cake. I have 2016, then 2018 -through to the current year. I surmise 2017 is missing because I believe Mass Effect: Andromeda dropped that month/year and my BioWare-loving heart at the time launched into that. I must have missed the ESO anniversary entirely, even though I did still play the game, and so the 2017 cake is forever lost to me.

Bit of a bummer. But thems the knocks, I suppose.

Blood_again wrote: »

If you didn't participate, why you need a memory about the event you weren't in?
Cake is not a mark of your skills or mastery in game. It is a memory about certain days spent in game for Game's Day celebration. Nothing else.

People probably don't want it for the memory in this case, but for decorative purposes, since it's a placeable furnishing.

I will never understand this thinking that something is only special and enjoyable if you know someone else doesn't have it.

I have all the cakes, I have the ones I like in houses. (I wish there were versions without the stand so I could put them on a table without needing something under it to hide the base.) I'm not going to lose them if other players can get them too, they're not going to suddenly look out of place in the scene. I won't lose anything by someone else getting to enjoy them too so I can't imagine any reason I'd want to deny them that.

So yes, I support everyone being able to get all the cakes, and any other items they like.

People asks why somebody don't like that people could buy a cake. It is just a cake really.
I'll try to make this point clear with a short story.

7 years ago I was on metal music fest. I was amazed so much so I worn the fest bracelet for a month or more after it.
I saw at least ten different people with similar bracelets in the city. Spoken with four of them and two became friends of mine for years after that. They were cassier in supermarket, taxy driver, street musician - totally different people who usually wasn't asked their music tastes and common interests. It was sweet to share our memories to each other.

The fourth I've spoken with didn't get what I asked. I pointed at the bracelet, so he said he had bought it from one of the participants for a dime because he loved how it looked. Actually that man wasn't interested in metal music or musical fests at all. We had no common interests to speak about, so I just went my business.

You know, after that I looked at my bracelet and saw that from now it is only a bright bracelet. It doesn't always mean common memories and common interests anymore. It had that meaning before but lost it.
== end of story ==

I don't try to play gatekeeping, because it's not a question who is good enough to get the cake.
I don't have any power or intension to push people from buying cakes.
I just answer the question what I miss if all people got indric, cake or whatever was memorable for me.

You got cake, I lost a memorable symbol.
You say it is just a cake. I agree, in a short time after being available to everybody it becomes just a cake, not a memory anymore.

Blood_again wrote: »

The same is for cake. Each year cake is granted for participation in event. You did the quest - you got the cake.
It is not about logging in or having an account, because event wasn't a test for login availability. There were certain conditions to get the cake.

If you didn't participate, why you need a memory about the event you weren't in?
Cake is not a mark of your skills or mastery in game. It is a memory about certain days spent in game for Game's Day celebration. Nothing else.

I guess, if event items were granted for nothing at any time, events wouldn't have any sense.
There are plenty of nice furniture in the crown store. Why would people want something that is memorable for participants but just a bright trinket for anybody else?

I get your point, but it is an anniversary cake celebrating an annual milestone, not simply an annual event. It seems to me that if a player participated in the year, not just the event, that they deserve the cake. I don't see this as diminishing a memorable symbol, but extending the same memorable symbol to players who were playing the game that year, but were unable to attend the party. That seems to meet the spirit of what the cake represents.

Now, I do agree that players who joined after the Anniversary milestone should not get cake for something they were not part of. If ZOS feels that people need cake furnishings, I think the best course of action would be to create generic cakes that players can buy for the purpose of furnishing houses with cakes.

Blood_again wrote: »

You got cake, I lost a memorable symbol.
You say it is just a cake. I agree, in a short time after being available to everybody it becomes just a cake, not a memory anymore.

As someone who likes exclusive things because of shared memories, I have never felt I lost a memory just because someone else bought it. A treasured memento of how I met my friend isn't lost because someone else has the same thing. Every time I see it, I am still reminded of the story.

Anyway I think the cakes should be available to anyone that played that year but not to new players.

Elsonso wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Blood_again wrote: »

You got cake, I lost a memorable symbol.
You say it is just a cake. I agree, in a short time after being available to everybody it becomes just a cake, not a memory anymore.

As someone who likes exclusive things because of shared memories, I have never felt I lost a memory just because someone else bought it. A treasured memento of how I met my friend isn't lost because someone else has the same thing. Every time I see it, I am still reminded of the story.

It is not my favorite jam, but esprit de corps, a sense of unity and of common interest, is lost when the symbol becomes diluted. The bad part is that once that is lost, it is difficult to regain. I can understand that.

It isn't lost for me, personally. I still feel a sense of community and memories when I see those items elsewhere. It's not the same for everyone, but I don't feel any sense of that loss just because I meet someone who didn't get it the same way. In fact, sometimes I see it as a way to bring them into community.

"You had to be there" or "Oh, it was epic! Let me tell you the story..." is how I approach it.

Exclusivity creates stories and memories to share, but after a certain point, I think it's fine they become more general use. You can still find others who got it the same way you did, and you can regale people who are newly into about what it was like back in the day. The opportunity to reminiscence is part of the fun, for me.

I can see both sides of the discussion.

I've been in TESO only a few years.
So on one side there are things and events I missed and would love to have had collectables from those events.

But...

On the other side, since I wasn't here at the time OR was but didn't participate in whatever event\content was going on, why should I get whatever special <thing> was awarded or available to those that were able to participate?

I'm talking about cases where it is clear that: "In order to get this special <Thing> you must do <event\condition>."

So would I love to have the first ever Jubilee cake? Or the beta monkey? sure, why not.

But it would end up feeling to me a lot like, ok for example:
I didn't run in the NYC Marathon, but there was a special tee that was given to those that did that says "I Ran the NYC 42km"

So I go out afterwards and buy that tee but for me I feel there is no meaning behind it, I never ran the marathon, I was never there.
So it's just another shirt that my cats will eventually fill with holes.

IMO the value in any experience IS the actual experience. Without that experience the thing feels just that, a thing.

I understand there are many reasons someone may wish to have an item from years ago.
For me personally I'd never make use of the option if ZOS implemented it because experiences give any associated items their meaning.

And quite honestly, with the limited housing item amounts, anytime I'm looking to reclaim space things like cakes are the first thing to go lol.