Is there any other way for us to get the previous Replica Jubilee Cakes?

evymyu233

i think this cake furniture can different from old players cake,they dont have special effects,and they only sold in crown store,so new players who really want cakes for their house will pay for them i will buy some,if zos can sell^^zos get money and new players get some nerf cake,old players dont so sad^^

dogmycats

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

dogmycats wrote: »

People would be happy to get the Replica cake furniture, and thus they can share the happiness the cake represents.
Wouldn't that be great?
Don't you want them to be happy?

Two things. Firstly, how can they share the happiness the cake represents, if it represents taking part in the event that year... and they didn't? It's an honest question, because I don't understand why anyone would want a 2018 cake if they only joined in 2020. It's not like all the cakes are that good to look at. If you didn't do it it's not your achievement, which brings me to...

Secondly, can I have the achievements for the hardcore 12 man dungeons I haven't completed? You know, so I can share the happiness. Wouldn't that be great? Don't you want me to be happy?

I know it's not a great achievement to get a cake, but you had to be there to get it. That's the whole point!

The Replica cake furniture is a REPLICA from the cake that you get from the event.
It's a REPLICA!
The cake memento is the thing you get from the anniversary, that's special.
And you can't get a REPLICA achievement.
I think we should know the difference between cake memento and Replica cake furniture.
People are only asking for the Replica cake furniture, that doesn't represents all the things old players can get from the anniversary.

evymyu233

why anyone would want 2018 crown crates/mounts/pets/costumes if they only joined in 2020 new players cant get a simple furniture just because they buy eso late :'( but zos sell many old crown crates and mounts

spartaxoxo

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

dogmycats wrote: »

People would be happy to get the Replica cake furniture, and thus they can share the happiness the cake represents.
Wouldn't that be great?
Don't you want them to be happy?

Two things. Firstly, how can they share the happiness the cake represents, if it represents taking part in the event that year... and they didn't? It's an honest question, because I don't understand why anyone would want a 2018 cake if they only joined in 2020. It's not like all the cakes are that good to look at. If you didn't do it it's not your achievement, which brings me to...

Secondly, can I have the achievements for the hardcore 12 man dungeons I haven't completed? You know, so I can share the happiness. Wouldn't that be great? Don't you want me to be happy?

I know it's not a great achievement to get a cake, but you had to be there to get it. That's the whole point!

Well, for one thing they may have been playing that year. An anniversary is supposed to represent a year of memories built together, but for some reason those memories are not celebrated in ESO. Instead it's did you do 1 quest in a narrow time frame. I think allowing the replicas to be purchased by anyone that played that year but keeping the mementos exclusive does a good job of making something that actually represents an anniversary.

Also, there's a massive difference between things that are exclusive because there was some difficult task undertaken and one where you just spent money or showed up some place IMO.

Dojohoda

The yearly cake is like a participation trophy.

I must admit that I have flexed by spawning the lovely single layer cake in a crowded area.

AScarlato

Blood_again wrote: »

People asks why somebody don't like that people could buy a cake. It is just a cake really.
I'll try to make this point clear with a short story.

7 years ago I was on metal music fest. I was amazed so much so I worn the fest bracelet for a month or more after it.
I saw at least ten different people with similar bracelets in the city. Spoken with four of them and two became friends of mine for years after that. They were cassier in supermarket, taxy driver, street musician - totally different people who usually wasn't asked their music tastes and common interests. It was sweet to share our memories to each other.

The fourth I've spoken with didn't get what I asked. I pointed at the bracelet, so he said he had bought it from one of the participants for a dime because he loved how it looked. Actually that man wasn't interested in metal music or musical fests at all. We had no common interests to speak about, so I just went my business.

You know, after that I looked at my bracelet and saw that from now it is only a bright bracelet. It doesn't always mean common memories and common interests anymore. It had that meaning before but lost it.
== end of story ==

I don't try to play gatekeeping, because it's not a question who is good enough to get the cake.
I don't have any power or intension to push people from buying cakes.
I just answer the question what I miss if all people got indric, cake or whatever was memorable for me.

You got cake, I lost a memorable symbol.
You say it is just a cake. I agree, in a short time after being available to everybody it becomes just a cake, not a memory anymore.

Or...someone just wants a cake in their kitchen and these are nice house items. Kitchens you probably will never visit or bother trying to start conversations over the cakes in them.

I don't see the big deal either way but really how many people do you approach and talk about how they got their cakes in their homes, if you even visit random homes at all lol.

Livvy

I don't see how the cakes are any different than anything else you can only acquire by doing a particular task, participating in a certain event, or completing a certain achievement.

You had to participate in that year's anniversary event to get the cake from that particular year. Just like you have to do certain achievements to get other unique rewards in game. Or have watched a certain live-stream to get another unique reward, etc.

I don't expect to get "replicas" of all of the things I haven't done, shown up for, or participated in that have unique rewards.

AScarlato

Livvy wrote: »

I don't see how the cakes are any different than anything else you can only acquire by doing a particular task, participating in a certain event, or completing a certain achievement.

You had to participate in that year's anniversary event to get the cake from that particular year. Just like you have to do certain achievements to get other unique rewards in game. Or have watched a certain live-stream to get another unique reward, etc.

I don't expect to get "replicas" of all of the things I haven't done, shown up for, or participated in that have unique rewards.

I mean, I play FFXIV and they way they handle season events is you can get the item "free" by doing the event in the year it's released, then the cosmetic goes to the in-game RL money shop for following years. Seems like a fair compromise without having to gatekeep.

For cakes that just go in people's homes that let's be honest, most of the people complaining here about the request will never even see, I think they should just all open up for maybe 12 tickets if you weren't there that year.

Why do you care if someone can put a fancy cake in their in-game house kitchen? A kitchen you have a 0.000001% chance of interacting with. lol

Mik195

evymyu233 wrote: »

Wow wrote: »

I've played the game since beta, and I definitely be super sad when I start seeing people going around with their Imgakin Monkey pet.

this new player just want a cake in her own house,you can avoid entering the house then you wont sad

I do like the idea of a cake non-combat pet. Imagine a bunch of cakes bouncing down the road after their player character. It would be absurd and I'm always a fan of things that make me giggle.

Livvy

AScarlato wrote: »

Livvy wrote: »

I don't see how the cakes are any different than anything else you can only acquire by doing a particular task, participating in a certain event, or completing a certain achievement.

You had to participate in that year's anniversary event to get the cake from that particular year. Just like you have to do certain achievements to get other unique rewards in game. Or have watched a certain live-stream to get another unique reward, etc.

I don't expect to get "replicas" of all of the things I haven't done, shown up for, or participated in that have unique rewards.

I mean, I play FFXIV and they way they handle season events is you can get the item "free" by doing the event in the year it's released, then the cosmetic goes to the in-game RL money shop for following years. Seems like a fair compromise without having to gatekeep.

For cakes that just go in people's homes that let's be honest, most of the people complaining here about the request will never even see, I think they should just all open up for maybe 12 tickets if you weren't there that year.

Why do you care if someone can put a fancy cake in their in-game house kitchen? A kitchen you have a 0.000001% chance of interacting with. lol

So, where does the entitlement stop?

Should we start getting replicas of dungeon achievement items too? What about trial trophies? Maybe I could just have the replica of a mount in my house but not the actual one I ride around. I mean come on, nobody will see them in my house. Why should they care?

Blood_again

AScarlato wrote: »

Or...someone just wants a cake in their kitchen and these are nice house items. Kitchens you probably will never visit or bother trying to start conversations over the cakes in them.

I don't see the big deal either way but really how many people do you approach and talk about how they got their cakes in their homes, if you even visit random homes at all lol.

I could write other stories:
how I found friends in ESO through one question about a hat,
how I fell from the 2nd to the 5th place in housing critics contest after confusing breton and imperial style,
how...

Anyway, I won't discuss the idea "you wouldn't see it anyway" as an argument.
Because fistly it would be a pure projection how other people should/would play the game. Not my cup of tea.
Secondly, being the person who agreed like "Okay, buy the cake but keep it home" would be my worst nightmare.
I am sure that demonstration anything you got in the game to anybody else is nice and wealthy. You have a cake? Feel free to show it.

I join to people who said about more cake furniture.
People who want just a beautiful cake for their kitchen would like it.
People who want only that cake, which is a game milestone marker... they wanted something more, than just a cake.

AScarlato

Blood_again wrote: »

AScarlato wrote: »

Or...someone just wants a cake in their kitchen and these are nice house items. Kitchens you probably will never visit or bother trying to start conversations over the cakes in them.

I don't see the big deal either way but really how many people do you approach and talk about how they got their cakes in their homes, if you even visit random homes at all lol.

I could write other stories:
how I found friends in ESO through one question about a hat,
how I fell from the 2nd to the 5th place in housing critics contest after confusing breton and imperial style,
how...

Anyway, I won't discuss the idea "you wouldn't see it anyway" as an argument.
Because fistly it would be a pure projection how other people should/would play the game. Not my cup of tea.
Secondly, being the person who agreed like "Okay, buy the cake but keep it home" would be my worst nightmare.
I am sure that demonstration anything you got in the game to anybody else is nice and wealthy. You have a cake? Feel free to show it.

I join to people who said about more cake furniture.
People who want just a beautiful cake for their kitchen would like it.
People who want only that cake, which is a game milestone marker... they wanted something more, than just a cake.

I'd honestly be fine if they created craftable cakes for the roleplayers/housing people/bakers that were as nice as these. They don't have to glow or anything. Just as is there aren't comparable centerpieces like these cakes, and this way new players could have nice cakes in thier homes and these event cakes can stay unique to those who care that they stay that way for whatever psychological reason they have for feeling that way.

I'm still on the side of the fence though that believes these simple cakes (as house items as opposed to people who want to summon them in front of everyone to "flex") shouldn't be "gone forever" if you happened to not have logged in that week. Life is short, and if these cakes in people's homes would give them a small joy, then great. *shrug* I guess others get joy in knowing only people who played a given week and year have them and others can never have them lol.

Necrotech_Master

the only way i know to get previous cake, is if you got insanely lucky and found someone who never used their cake ticket for the 2016 cake, as back in that day the ticket was a consumable that started the quest, instead of instantly granting you the quest from the crown store

the 2016 cake is the only one which works like this, and those tickets nowadays are very rare (and expensive) as there are probably very few left in the market/game

ArchangelIsraphel

Danikat wrote: »

I will never understand this thinking that something is only special and enjoyable if you know someone else doesn't have it.

I have all the cakes, I have the ones I like in houses. (I wish there were versions without the stand so I could put them on a table without needing something under it to hide the base.) I'm not going to lose them if other players can get them too, they're not going to suddenly look out of place in the scene. I won't lose anything by someone else getting to enjoy them too so I can't imagine any reason I'd want to deny them that.

So yes, I support everyone being able to get all the cakes, and any other items they like.

This right here. Agree with you completely. I don't understand this cake gatekeeping and never will. Especially since the furnishings will only be seen by the house owner, the owners friends, and maybe guldies. The people who don't want others to have the old cakes will never even have to see them in someone else's house if they don't visit it, so why does it matter?

Sometimes I really wonder if people are actually enjoying things if the only pleasure they take in owning them is the knowledge that no one else can have it.

AScarlato

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

Sometimes I really wonder if people are actually enjoying things if the only pleasure they take in owning them is the knowledge that no one else can have it.

Pretty sure for some people it's this right here. I don't know why some people are like this.

FeedbackOnly

Gadamlub14_ESO wrote: »

at the very least, giving those of us who do have accounts old enough to have obtained the cakes at the time would be very nice. I somehow managed to get the psijic villa even though i never participated in the summerset event.

😭 I didn't understand the first year that quests can be in crown store

Veloth_Redothril

So originally the cake vouchers use to be a physical object that was placed in your inventory.

Someone on reddit had mentioned that they and a friend had tried to redeem an old voucher with no success. Within in the last few years though zos changed how the quest works. Now the quest itself acts as the "voucher". However somehow that seemed to have changed how the old vouchers worked. For whatever reason that person decided to hold on to that old voucher (it was from the first jubilee) and when zos changed how the quest worked that person discovered that they were now able to redeem the voucher and unlock an old cake furnishing years after it was originally available.

And someone else mentioned they were able to sell an old voucher on a guild trader, which according to them made them "loaded". I checked and there is an option to look up "jubilee cake voucher" or something along those lines.

Although obviously this is all on these people's word alone. The odds of being able to verify this would be astronomically low

LunaFlora

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

dogmycats wrote: »

People would be happy to get the Replica cake furniture, and thus they can share the happiness the cake represents.
Wouldn't that be great?
Don't you want them to be happy?

Two things. Firstly, how can they share the happiness the cake represents, if it represents taking part in the event that year... and they didn't? It's an honest question, because I don't understand why anyone would want a 2018 cake if they only joined in 2020. It's not like all the cakes are that good to look at. If you didn't do it it's not your achievement, which brings me to...

Secondly, can I have the achievements for the hardcore 12 man dungeons I haven't completed? You know, so I can share the happiness. Wouldn't that be great? Don't you want me to be happy?

I know it's not a great achievement to get a cake, but you had to be there to get it. That's the whole point!

i actually would love to have the 2018 cake because i started playing the game in 2018 and couldn't play anymore due to not having enough money for ps plus and rejoined in 2020.

i wouldn't be interested in any cakes from before 2018 though but there's probably others who also haven't been able to get jubilee cakes from years they did play the game in

Soarora

LunaFlora wrote: »

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

dogmycats wrote: »

People would be happy to get the Replica cake furniture, and thus they can share the happiness the cake represents.
Wouldn't that be great?
Don't you want them to be happy?

Two things. Firstly, how can they share the happiness the cake represents, if it represents taking part in the event that year... and they didn't? It's an honest question, because I don't understand why anyone would want a 2018 cake if they only joined in 2020. It's not like all the cakes are that good to look at. If you didn't do it it's not your achievement, which brings me to...

Secondly, can I have the achievements for the hardcore 12 man dungeons I haven't completed? You know, so I can share the happiness. Wouldn't that be great? Don't you want me to be happy?

I know it's not a great achievement to get a cake, but you had to be there to get it. That's the whole point!

i actually would love to have the 2018 cake because i started playing the game in 2018 and couldn't play anymore due to not having enough money for ps plus and rejoined in 2020.

i wouldn't be interested in any cakes from before 2018 though but there's probably others who also haven't been able to get jubilee cakes from years they did play the game in

I think it'd be nice if it were based on account age rather than the quest. I'm sure the npc remembers his past recipes.

Amottica

Nestor wrote: »

You can buy all the Replica Cakes going back to 2016 from the Impresario.

Nestor wrote: »

You can buy all the Replica Cakes going back to 2016 from the Impresario.

@Nestor

I think you need to have gotten the cake for that year to buy the replica.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

To be honnest, NOTHING should be gated behind when you started playing. This goes for cakes, for the beta monkey and all the mounts/pet or others that where given to player as sub reward back then. You could say oh but you should have played back then if you wanted it! Let me remind you that not all people had the opportunity to play eso for the last 9 years. Some quitted and missed later cakes, some just purshased their first game with their own money, some couldnt afford a mandatory sub back then or the game just wasnt avaiable on their platform at all. So yeah every player should have the opportunity to obtain anything in game at least once. Also no it wont loose imaginary value...

Alastrine

evymyu233 wrote: »

why anyone would want 2018 crown crates/mounts/pets/costumes if they only joined in 2020 new players cant get a simple furniture just because they buy eso late :'( but zos sell many old crown crates and mounts

Yes. They do. And thats a problem too for some of them - mounts and items that were labelled "exclusive" the first time they were offered, and on sale for only a limited time and usually for a lot of crowns.
But they weren't 'exclusive' at all, they are offered over and over now.
I wish I could have those crowns back that I spent thinking an item was actually going to be 'exclusive' to that offering. I don't fall for that anymore.

Simple furniture to you. To many of us it represents an event we were active and participated in. And yes, the replica cakes are not the same as the memento cake but you can't put the memento cake in your house, can you?

One poster said why would someone want something that they take pleasure in only because no one else can get it (or close to that). That's not what many here are saying at all. We take pleasure in the fact we have it because we've been playing that long, and participating in these events. It represents that fact. It's not 'because others can't have it', it's because we DO have it. If you can't see the difference then I can't help you.

Furniture that no one will see so why does it matter..... matters to us, obviously. Personally I HAVE had players in my houses that see a lineup of cakes and say 'wow, you HAVE been playing a long time'. Yes. I have. I didn't just join a year ago and bought them 'because I needed a cake for my house'.

Let ZoS add a cake to the crown store for these people, if all they want is a furnishing. Hey, they can make a new series, like the music boxes. But not the Anniversary cakes.

Amottica

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

To be honnest, NOTHING should be gated behind when you started playing. This goes for cakes, for the beta monkey and all the mounts/pet or others that where given to player as sub reward back then. You could say oh but you should have played back then if you wanted it! Let me remind you that not all people had the opportunity to play eso for the last 9 years. Some quitted and missed later cakes, some just purshased their first game with their own money, some couldnt afford a mandatory sub back then or the game just wasnt avaiable on their platform at all. So yeah every player should have the opportunity to obtain anything in game at least once. Also no it wont loose imaginary value...

Most things should not be gated but it is great when some things are like a special mount or these cakes.

Alastrine

Nestor wrote: »

You can buy all the Replica Cakes going back to 2016 from the Impresario.

No, you can't.
You will only have cakes for years you participated offered to you in the Impresario menu. If you see all of them, then you participated in all of those events. That menu does not appear to everyone. People only have years offered that they participated in.

endgamesmug

Thats the bummer about moving from years on console all my early cakes are back there and because i had to start again i dont qualify for repurchasing them on pc.

Valve

Veloth_Redothril wrote: »

Although obviously this is all on these people's word alone. The odds of being able to verify this would be astronomically low

I can confirm this works.

I gave one to a friend this event and he was able to redeem the 2016 cake.

I now have 3 2016 vouchers left.

Alastrine

endgamesmug wrote: »

Thats the bummer about moving from years on console all my early cakes are back there and because i had to start again i dont qualify for repurchasing them on pc.

See, yours is a different case. You were playing the game and participating in the event, just on a different platform.
You should be able to see the preceding years you did that in the Impresario menu, imo.

Blood_again

These cakes value is so imaginary for people, that they offered to pay crowns or more tickets for them.
Just a replica. A simple furniture. Nothing special.
Devaluation is a tricky game. If you play it too hard, finally you get items that worth nothing.

Also, I see people care about new players who just bought their first game for their own money.
If you really care about them, vote for more craftable or lootable nice furniture. Not for putting some cakes behind a paywall lol.
New players wouldn't struggle for those old annyversary just cakes if they had a good alternative, would they?

DragonRacer

Only on the ESO forum can we devolve into an argument over cakes.

I’m impressed.

spartaxoxo

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

Sometimes I really wonder if people are actually enjoying things if the only pleasure they take in owning them is the knowledge that no one else can have it.

It is definitely seems to be a primary consideration.

When I look at exclusivity and whether it makes sense I look at things like....

Was this explicitly marketed as something that could never return under any circumstance?

Does this item make sense to be exclusive?

How much effort does it require?

How likely is it to crash the value of the item?

What is the item meant to represent?

That type of thing. I don't think every single last thing that ever came out as exclusive must always remain exclusive, no matter the case. But, that's just me. Others might feel different and that's okay.

In this case the answer to those questions are, in my opinion....

They were not marketed that way on the news page.

Anniversary are inherently meant to celebrate a year of activity, making them exclusive to two weeks does not make sense.

Extremely low effort. No skill, money, or real time requires.

There is no market value.

As mentioned earlier it's meant to represent a player playing that year, but it doesn't due to the way the exclusivity is setup.The replicas didn't even always exist so people who chose to skip the cake but did participate in an earlier event, don't get the cake either. Despite the fact they participated and couldn't have known the cakes would become a thing.

So, for me, the exclusivity doesn't make a lot of sense on these replicas. The mementos make a bit more sense, since they grant the exp buff for doing the quest.