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Cloudrest Overload Now Works On One Bar Players Again!
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Soarora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I am surprised by the amount of players happy about less people being able to do endgame content.
And what’s up with all the oak-ring hate lately.
I think it just never stopped, someone made a thread, and then it just kept rolling.
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Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭Force swamp bar it's not a problem at all for Oakensoul! There's one way.Buy the runEdited by Red_chimera_oni on March 15, 2023 9:12PM2 -
Marcusorion1✭✭✭✭From addendum to patch notes:
ZOS_Kevin admin
Cloudrest
Voltaic Current no longer functions differently for players with a second weapon bar unlocked, and are in Werewolf form or have the Oakensoul item equipped.
Edited by ZOS_Kevin on March 15, 2023 1:45PMEdited by Marcusorion1 on March 15, 2023 9:07PM1 -
Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭Marcusorion1 wrote: »From addendum to patch notes:
@ZOS_Kevin admin
Cloudrest
Voltaic Current no longer functions differently for players with a second weapon bar unlocked, and are in Werewolf form or have the Oakensoul item equipped.
Edited by @ZOS_Kevin on March 15, 2023 1:45PM
Can you post the link for that please. Or you're just trolling others with somekind of moderator fake topics?!Edited by Red_chimera_oni on March 15, 2023 9:13PM0 -
kringled_1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭That's in the official patch notes on the forum, just the quoting didn't format well. I'll post a link later when not on mobile if someone else doesn't.0 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Top result on the Dev Tracker.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7828264/#Comment_7828264
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Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭Top result on the Dev Tracker.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7828264/#Comment_7828264
All the way at the end, under Summerset.
ok. But... np at all!
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Dagoth_Rac✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Would have preferred a change like, "Casting a front bar skill or using a front bar weapon will do group wide damage. The potential damage increases every second over 10 seconds." 2-bar builds would have a big advantage in that they can switch to back bar and continue using skills. Oakensoul would be forced to not cast any skills or LA/HA at all for 10 seconds. That is a pretty big punishment, and would make it harder for Oakensoul builds to do No Death, Hard Mode,or Speed Run, but it would not be a case where the content is completely and totally off limits.
However, the highly vocal players who will never be happy until even the best Oakensoul build is inferior to even the worst non-Oakensoul build, will be delighted!6 -
Kirawolfe✭✭✭✭✭Man, am I tired of the Oakensoul hate. I love LA weaving, and love Oakensoul builds making higher tier content accessible.
This is a change that should have been adapted for werewolves/Oakensoul builds. They literally can't change to a back bar, so figure out another way this mechanic can affect them, and how they can avoid it.
Because that's really poor form, otherwise.
Tired of what feels like the devs of this game punishing people for succeeding.23 -
FantasticFreddie✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Talk about a stealth nerf. And for what? So FEWER people do the content?? Why??? Who wins here?
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Heelie✭✭✭✭✭FantasticFreddie wrote: »Talk about a stealth nerf. And for what? So FEWER people do the content?? Why??? Who wins here?
I think there needs to be a limit and that limit is an even playing field, we should all deal with the same mechanics, there should'nt be a build that one mechanic does not appear for. As I mentioned earlier if tomorow bow builds took little to no damage in all content, you would'nt see that same support on the forums, it was only because one bar players could take advantage of this obvious bug that it gathered support. While I don't support bans or anything for people using this bug, or any other bug that is'nt triggered on purpose as an exploit. I think they should be fixed in all cases.Most OwOrated healer of all time6 -
FantasticFreddie✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭FantasticFreddie wrote: »Talk about a stealth nerf. And for what? So FEWER people do the content?? Why??? Who wins here?
I think there needs to be a limit and that limit is an even playing field, we should all deal with the same mechanics, there should'nt be a build that one mechanic does not appear for. As I mentioned earlier if tomorow bow builds took little to no damage in all content, you would'nt see that same support on the forums, it was only because one bar players could take advantage of this obvious bug that it gathered support. While I don't support bans or anything for people using this bug, or any other bug that is'nt triggered on purpose as an exploit. I think they should be fixed in all cases.
We DO have an even playing field. Everyone has the option to make a one bar build.
I got GH twice before AWA went into place. The game was harder then, too. There was less damage, and the bosses had more health. Yet, I don't whine that no one who has gotten GH post changes to boss health shouldn't get the achievement, and I feel the same way about oakensoul.
If you don't want to use it, guess what? You haven't lost anything. Nothing changes for you. You can play the game EXACTLY AS YOU HAVE BEEN.
I simply do not care if some players have a easier time with what is already the most braindead and easiest mechanic in the trial.23 -
Rkindaleft✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I am surprised by the amount of players happy about less people being able to do endgame content.
And what’s up with all the oak-ring hate lately.
[snip]
In regards to the Relequen mechanics they honestly should've just slightly altered the mechanic instead so everyone was on an even playing field from the very beginning.
[edited for baiting]Edited by ZOS_Kraken on March 15, 2023 10:34PMRuneblades enjoyer https://youtube.com/@rkindaleftAll Solo, Dungeon and Arena trifectas.
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Heromofo✭✭✭✭✭People happy that less people can do end game content?, what is wrong with the community that this is seen as a win?.
I actually didn't think this was a bug but an intended system for those using any one bar build.22 -
FantasticFreddie✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭People happy that less people can do end game content?, what is wrong with the community that this is seen as a win?.
I actually didn't think this was a bug but an intended system for those using any one bar build.
I thought it was a great thing! There were so many people getting their first clears and so excited about it!
What, are they going to add some sneaky mechanic to vAS next so oakensoul doesn't work there? Where is the line?13 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭I am surprised by the amount of players happy about less people being able to do endgame content.
And what’s up with all the oak-ring hate lately.
It's more that people are happy everyone now needs the same awerness of mechanics. Being able to completly ignore one of the most important mechanics in that particular trial doesn't sound right. Accesibility is one thing but fair playing field in terms of learning mechanics is another.Edited by axi on March 15, 2023 10:16PM9 -
Red_chimera_oni✭✭✭FantasticFreddie wrote: »People happy that less people can do end game content?, what is wrong with the community that this is seen as a win?.
I actually didn't think this was a bug but an intended system for those using any one bar build.
I thought it was a great thing! There were so many people getting their first clears and so excited about it!
What, are they going to add some sneaky mechanic to vAS next so oakensoul doesn't work there? Where is the line?
Next update can be: "You're not allowed enter in this trial with Oakensoul in you account"
edit: And if more people start making more harder content... how some players will sell the runs.
And btw, do you have one ideia of who sell vCR+3 or GH or GodSlayer etc... ? You think it's casual players? lol
so... Who win with this?Edited by Red_chimera_oni on March 15, 2023 10:19PM4 -
Heelie✭✭✭✭✭FantasticFreddie wrote: »FantasticFreddie wrote: »Talk about a stealth nerf. And for what? So FEWER people do the content?? Why??? Who wins here?
I think there needs to be a limit and that limit is an even playing field, we should all deal with the same mechanics, there should'nt be a build that one mechanic does not appear for. As I mentioned earlier if tomorow bow builds took little to no damage in all content, you would'nt see that same support on the forums, it was only because one bar players could take advantage of this obvious bug that it gathered support. While I don't support bans or anything for people using this bug, or any other bug that is'nt triggered on purpose as an exploit. I think they should be fixed in all cases.
We DO have an even playing field. Everyone has the option to make a one bar build.
I got GH twice before AWA went into place. The game was harder then, too. There was less damage, and the bosses had more health. Yet, I don't whine that no one who has gotten GH post changes to boss health shouldn't get the achievement, and I feel the same way about oakensoul.
If you don't want to use it, guess what? You haven't lost anything. Nothing changes for you. You can play the game EXACTLY AS YOU HAVE BEEN.
I simply do not care if some players have a easier time with what is already the most braindead and easiest mechanic in the trial.
Not everyone has the option to use an Oakensoul build no, and I think people should be able to go into Cloudrest on a two bar build and play the same fight as someone on a one bar build. Nothing stops one bar build players from going into cloudrest with the two exact same bars, another mythic, a Mages guild skill for Empower. And just playing like they used to, but every time they get overload they swap bar.Most OwOrated healer of all time3 -
Everest_Lionheart✭✭✭✭✭
✭FantasticFreddie wrote: »People happy that less people can do end game content?, what is wrong with the community that this is seen as a win?.
I actually didn't think this was a bug but an intended system for those using any one bar build.
I thought it was a great thing! There were so many people getting their first clears and so excited about it!
What, are they going to add some sneaky mechanic to vAS next so oakensoul doesn't work there? Where is the line?
Well to be fair vAS is 6 years old so maybe they will let that one slide. I’m more interested to see what the response to heavy attack Godslayer is going to be seeing has how that achievement also comes with a mount.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭People happy that less people can do end game content?, what is wrong with the community that this is seen as a win?.
I actually didn't think this was a bug but an intended system for those using any one bar build.
i always though so too
technically there always has been a 1 bar playstyle (which has gone through periods of highs and lows) called being a werewolf since the game launched lol, so this playstyle existed when cloudrest was introduced
not like WW was ever really super meta, but it was still feasible to useplays PC/NA
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axi✭✭✭✭✭People happy that less people can do end game content?, what is wrong with the community that this is seen as a win?.
I actually didn't think this was a bug but an intended system for those using any one bar build.
Why people shouldn't be happy that everyone now needs to perform trial mechanic instead of completly bypassing it with a simple trick?
It's more concering that there are people who are unhappy that ZoS fixed this. Seems like many people these days wants for things to be handled to them for free with little to none effort on their side.
And just for the record You can still do this trial as one bar setup. You can just change oakensoul to other mythic or second piece of monster set and slot the same weapons and abilities on both bars and use swap just every once in a while when mechanics triggers on You. It'll be still eeasier for You than for regular two bar setups which needs to perfectly time the swap if they want to still do decent dmg during the mechanic.Edited by axi on March 15, 2023 10:26PM6 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭FantasticFreddie wrote: »People happy that less people can do end game content?, what is wrong with the community that this is seen as a win?.
I actually didn't think this was a bug but an intended system for those using any one bar build.
I thought it was a great thing! There were so many people getting their first clears and so excited about it!
What, are they going to add some sneaky mechanic to vAS next so oakensoul doesn't work there? Where is the line?
The line is there where You can with no effort, completly ignore a core trial mechanic.6 -
Rkindaleft✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭All players in craglorn aprove the changes!
That’s all the Oakensoul users that just quit lul
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Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭every time i go to craglorn the town and that wayshrine is always jam packed lolplays PC/NA
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axi✭✭✭✭✭Rkindaleft wrote: »I am surprised by the amount of players happy about less people being able to do endgame content.
And what’s up with all the oak-ring hate lately.
[snip]
In regards to the Relequen mechanics they honestly should've just slightly altered the mechanic instead so everyone was on an even playing field from the very beginning.
[edited for baiting]
People should adjust their gear to mechanics not the other way around.Edited by axi on March 15, 2023 10:54PM6 -
ssewallb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Deliberately introducing playstyles into the game then making it literally impossible to participate in a single piece of content with said intended playstyle isn't really consistent with this game's design philosophy. I think that's why most people assumed the previous behavior was intended.
If the issue is genuinely that you can skip the easiest mechanic in the entire trial, maybe give WWs and oaken users a way to interact with voltaic overload? Something requiring the skill of "press bar swap once and wait for it to end."27
