Bar switching fixed, how about Vampiric Drain while blocking also ?

fxeconomisteb17_ESO · January 2023

Mm, how about that ?

DocFrost72 · January 2023

Vampiric drain is a channeled ability. It is intended that you lose block while the ability persists.

fxeconomisteb17_ESO · January 2023

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Vampiric drain is a channeled ability. It is intended that you lose block while the ability persists.

Well, a program suffers anything, right ? Perhaps it was a bad design. Meditate for instance, is also channelled and you cannot do anything while you channel it, as you "meditate", but it seems to me logical at least with shields to block with the shield in the left hand and drain with the right hand. Perhaps it was a bad design to make channeling this way, something that has to be corrected.

Soarora · January 2023

Why? As long as channel abilities can be canceled by blocking I don’t see a problem with not being able to channel through block.

fxeconomisteb17_ESO · January 2023

Soarora wrote: »

Why? As long as channel abilities can be canceled by blocking I don’t see a problem with not being able to channel through block.

I think it should be on a case-by-case scenario.

For instance. When you block with a staff, you use both your hands. Obviously there should be no way to channel anything.

But if you have a free hand while blocking with shield, then Vampiric Drain should work. Crystal Fragments should not - you use both hands. Meditate also should not...

selig_fay · January 2023

I think it's possible if you're willing to spend 5 set pieces or a mystic slot for it + bonus. Otherwise, there is no reason, because it will create another permablock build. You know, if you lose 5000 stamina, you will recover 500 stamina every tick. Such power should not be given for free.

Vevvev · January 2023

Vampiric Drain is sadly a channel, and channels and toggles like Meditation all are cancelled by block. That's by design, but Vampiric Drain with how weak it is doesn't make for a good channel. It's more of a long range utility ability cause it's way too easy to get interrupted while using it, and you need to make special additions to your build to get the most out of it.

fxeconomisteb17_ESO · January 2023

selig_fay wrote: »

I think it's possible if you're willing to spend 5 set pieces or a mystic slot for it + bonus. Otherwise, there is no reason, because it will create another permablock build. You know, if you lose 5000 stamina, you will recover 500 stamina every tick. Such power should not be given for free.

It's certainly worth a Mythic for me. It's worth even a Mask. Perhaps, but not sure, even a 5 piece set.

CameraBeardThePirate · January 2023

fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Why? As long as channel abilities can be canceled by blocking I don’t see a problem with not being able to channel through block.

I think it should be on a case-by-case scenario.

For instance. When you block with a staff, you use both your hands. Obviously there should be no way to channel anything.

But if you have a free hand while blocking with shield, then Vampiric Drain should work. Crystal Fragments should not - you use both hands. Meditate also should not...

How on earth do you suppose your hands are anymore free holding a sword in one hand and a shield in the other than they are holding a staff with two hands?

fxeconomisteb17_ESO · February 2023

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Why? As long as channel abilities can be canceled by blocking I don’t see a problem with not being able to channel through block.

I think it should be on a case-by-case scenario.

For instance. When you block with a staff, you use both your hands. Obviously there should be no way to channel anything.

But if you have a free hand while blocking with shield, then Vampiric Drain should work. Crystal Fragments should not - you use both hands. Meditate also should not...

How on earth do you suppose your hands are anymore free holding a sword in one hand and a shield in the other than they are holding a staff with two hands?

If you have a sword in the right hand and do nothing with it, you cast the Drain and it works (you "sheathe" it). Similarly you can have the shield in the left, sheathe the sword in the right, and cast Drain...

kriegwar13 · February 2023

it is a channeled ability, I use 1H and shield and the animation looks fine, you suppose to use left hand when you use vampiric drain, and you cannot block since it is a channeled ability.

What needs fixing is the awful animation of eviscerate. I couldn't dare to look at it swinging weapons with "claw" animation.

Instead fix it using the left hand.

robpr · February 2023

It can always be changed into an instant cast ability that creates a 5s tether, but that would create balance problems if every class would have access to % hp heal that restores stamina or generates a vast amount of ult.

Animar111 · February 2023

I think a shield made of small bats surround you while vampiric drain is active this would also give a vampire a shield skill.