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Do you think we're getting Spellcrafting this year?

  • LittlePinkDot
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    No
    I'm hoping it's a new weapon skill line like spears.

    And an announcement that all console players will have to upgrade to next Gen consoles by 2024 when support for last Gen consoles is discontinued. Free server transfers offered.

    We shouldn't all be held back because of a few people's old hardware.
    Edited by LittlePinkDot on January 21, 2023 6:42PM
  • XSTRONG
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    No
    I say No because I dont see how they either make it useless or brake the game with way over powerful stuff
  • Cazador
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    No
    While it might be kind of cool depending on how it's handled I think it's unlikely.
  • Finedaible
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    No
    But I would love to be proven wrong if we do get spellcrafting.
  • colossalvoids
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    No
    Not hopeful enough, would be glad to be mistaken this time as it's one of those few couple things I would love to be added.
  • Kaelthorn_Nightbloom
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    No
    Zero chance.
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  • Malthorne
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    Yes
    I’ve set my expectations to high, haven’t I?
  • Aztrias
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    No, Not genuine spellcrafting at any rate... anyone who is actually expecting Morrowind style spellcrafting will be dissapointed.

    If they include spellcrafting it will be something streamlined or gimmicky, I'd much rather have a new weapon skill line or a class.
    Edited by Aztrias on January 21, 2023 11:09PM
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  • Jarl_Ironheart
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    Yes
    Yes, I really do. Anyone who says that is going be a unbalanced nightmare doesn't actually understand what the spellcrafting is in this game.

    Go watch Hack the Minotaurs video on it and you'll see its actually very balanced. In essence it's 1 spell/skill that has 6 different morphs. You have actual spells like flame cloak, frost cloak, oakflesh, summon familiar, fire atronach and more. It's adding real spells into this game. ESO has NEVER had real spells which is mind boggling if you think about honestly. "Spellcrafting", which is bad name for it, will allow us to find spells that have 6 different morphs. It was fully added into the game during quakecon 2014 but was never released. It's look amazing and will add so much diversity and fun into builds.

    ALSO, if they add Hermaeus Mora into this chapter and it DOESNT have something regarding magic or ancient knowledge we as the player can use I'm gonna be very disappointed. Even more so if we are going to the Telvanni Peninsula. Don't mess this up ZOS, you need a absolute banger to keep this community from going rabid. And anyone who is against Spellcrafting... don't act like you won't use the spells or system. I don't believe that for 1 millisecond
    Edited by Jarl_Ironheart on January 22, 2023 12:05AM
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  • Clyde_BlueSnake
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    Yes
    I hope we do.
    Main is Blue-Thuxis, a Argonian stamSorc, whose also is a werewolf! 2nd main, Cobalt-Thuxis, a Argonian stamArc, an identical twin sister to Blue-Thuxis, even is a werewolf as well! some alts:
    Nirn-Scale Rajthux (Argonian, Templar), Ros-Ei Nature-Thuxis (Argonian, Warden), Crimson-Thuxis (Argonian, DK), Bone-Thuxis Tharn (Argonian, Necro) Why Bone-Thuxis has Tharn as a last name:
    The siblings were separated at a young age due to a Dres slaver raid, Blue, Cobalt, Ros-Ei & their mother were able to escape, Crimson & Bone weren't that lucky. Crimson was later "rescued" by some Orcs that later ambushed the House Dres Dunmers, unfortunately one Dunmer remained & sadly successfully brought the young Bone-Thuxis to the Dres plantation. Later an Imperial, a Tharn, bought Bone at a auction & later told he was free, the young Argonian sadly had no idea where to go & doesn't know if his family was still alive, so the Tharn adopted him into House Tharn. This family of Argonians finally reunited years later.
    , Kenneth Clyde (Nord, Sorc), Selene Gray-Thuxis (Argonian, Nightblade), Urmanda (Orc, Warden)
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  • fizzylu
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    Yes
    Only because it does seem to be getting hinted at a lot and considering it's already been datamined to some extent.... but I do not necessarily think spellcrafting is a good idea nor one of the more needed features.
  • colossalvoids
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    No
    fizzylu wrote: »
    Only because it does seem to be getting hinted at a lot and considering it's already been datamined to some extent.... but I do not necessarily think spellcrafting is a good idea nor one of the more needed features.

    As far as I'm aware there wasn't anything feature related mined this time around (some other aspects were), only old mines aren't really that convincing.
  • bmnoble
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    No
    If they did would not surprise me if it ends up being a new skill line with 5 skills and an ultimate, that just so happens to be labelled spell crafting.
  • rpa
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    No
    Spellcrafting would be a grind to cheese to be nerfed to useless 3 months after release. I do not believe it can be made both balanced and useful in a multiplayer game and it needs to be useful at launch to sell it.
  • fizzylu
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    Yes
    @colossalvoids I was talking about the letters that were sent out and the emote, also it being datamined a long time ago is still something to consider since something similar happened with the vampire rework.
    Edited by fizzylu on January 22, 2023 9:02AM
  • robwolf666
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    No
    As interesting as it might be, I think they would have to add and tweak too many gears to make it work, so no.
  • DreamyLu
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    No
    I'm for the missing poll option "not interested". I have nothing against it but I don't need it, so I don't really care if it will come or not.

    I believe that the amount of forum posters/readers not really caring, or simply no interesting, is also a valuable information as much as the amount of "yes" and "no". It gives a global picture.
    For example, if there would be altogether more "no" and "don't care" than "yes", the interpretation of the poll could be that for the forum population, spellcrafting is potentially not as much a hot topic as what we could think.
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  • colossalvoids
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    No
    DreamyLu wrote: »
    I'm for the missing poll option "not interested". I have nothing against it but I don't need it, so I don't really care if it will come or not.

    I believe that the amount of forum posters/readers not really caring, or simply no interesting, is also a valuable information as much as the amount of "yes" and "no". It gives a global picture.
    For example, if there would be altogether more "no" and "don't care" than "yes", the interpretation of the poll could be that for the forum population, spellcrafting is potentially not as much a hot topic as what we could think.

    I don't think you can interpret "no" as "don't want", more like simply "don't believe zos would/could do this" whatever the reason would be.
  • Roztlin45
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    Yes
    Hopeful and cautious. Spell crafting done correctly will be a homerun for creativity in your gameplay. As with sets that I think should be pve only, maybe spellcraft would be better excluded from pvp as well.
  • Syldras
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    Yes
    I think it will be spellcrafting. And it will end in chaos.
    rbfrgsp wrote: »
    Imagine teasing spellcrafting and then not delivering.
    There's the added consideration that (if) Telvanni in the new chapter, then some sort of levitation spell is inevitable, isn't it?

    Maybe a very limited one as the levels aren't built for flying.
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  • Rowjoh
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    No
    with all the bugs and performance issues, especially those that plague PVP, adding another feature of the complexity of spellcrafting will cause insurmountable problems.

    That's why it will never happen unfortunately.


    Edited by Rowjoh on January 22, 2023 12:45PM
  • Luke_Flamesword
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    Yes
    I believe it may be spellcrafting, because last years looks like making some foundations for it. They didn't release it in 2014 probably because of balance nightmare, but now after skills standarization (that was most important step) and things like hybridization I believe they are at point when you can really make complex and working spellcrafting system.

    In 2014 demo it was very complex - you can get any spell and make many variations of it. If standarization was made with spellcrafting in mind, then it shouldn't be a problem. There will be formula for every spell variation which will adjust strength, cost and other factors to make sure that spell is not to strong. For example AOE version will have much lower damage than single target or instant damage will be lower than DOT (because DOT makes more time to kill target).

    Some spells will be probably the same spells with same stats and potential but different skin - for example - fire, ice or shock destruction spell, different summons, elemental shields, etc. So at the end there will be not so much new effects, but it will be more about themes and making your characters special in your way. It's very nice because they can create and balance one spell and then give us dozens of skins of it - for example - shield spell can be fire, ice, shock, water, oak, earth, wind, shadow, light and many more. Finding new skins in new and old content and making adjustment to different character themes will be exciting. For me it gives reason to create more and more characters with themes beyond class theme.

    Haermus Mora fit perfectly spellcrafting theme and I don't know what else may be "one of the most requested new features" when we talks about big new systems and not small features. This and all these combat changes without any new combat systems in last year - all this point to spellcrafting or at least something with big impact to combat.
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  • FeedbackOnly
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    Yes
    I hope so and will be disappointed with anything less after horrible last year
  • Castagere
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    No
    All I want is a racial passive redo to match each race's lore. This is my hope for this year.
  • Ragnarok0130
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    No
    Hermaus Mora is the Daedric Prince of knowledge and Memory so it doesn't immediately indicate spell crafting as the new system. The new system could be absolutely anything knowledge and memory related area to include the forbidden knowledge on how to change classes, how to replay story arcs or something else entirely we're being honest. I'm not sure why the content creators latched onto the spell crafting angle other than the click bait nature of it since it's arguably the least likely system to be added to the game based on how difficult it is to balance overall let alone using ZoS' stubborn way of balancing PVE and PVP with the same brush.
  • Amottica
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    No
    rbfrgsp wrote: »
    Imagine teasing spellcrafting and then not delivering. .

    During the first year of the game Zenimax did more than tease that they were working on spellcrafting. Yes that a year after a very specific remark that they were working on it they admitted it was no longer being worked on and was put on the back shelf.

    Spellcrafting is likely to not be what we are hoping it will be.
  • Tandor
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    Missing option: I've no idea, and no particular concern one way or the other.
  • Elsonso
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    No
    Amottica wrote: »
    rbfrgsp wrote: »
    Imagine teasing spellcrafting and then not delivering. .

    During the first year of the game Zenimax did more than tease that they were working on spellcrafting. Yes that a year after a very specific remark that they were working on it they admitted it was no longer being worked on and was put on the back shelf.

    Spellcrafting is likely to not be what we are hoping it will be.

    That design was done before they decided to monetize the game with a cash shop and loot crates, bolstered by grinding. It will never be what I hope it will be, which is something free from all three of those things.
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  • Paulytnz
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    Yes
    Hermaus Mora is the Daedric Prince of knowledge and Memory so it doesn't immediately indicate spell crafting as the new system. The new system could be absolutely anything knowledge and memory related area to include the forbidden knowledge on how to change classes, how to replay story arcs or something else entirely we're being honest. I'm not sure why the content creators latched onto the spell crafting angle other than the click bait nature of it since it's arguably the least likely system to be added to the game based on how difficult it is to balance overall let alone using ZoS' stubborn way of balancing PVE and PVP with the same brush.

    In reply to what I put in bold:

    Because it was in Oblivion as a BIG feature of the game. I guess you never played that game? I am baffled when people question why things are in this game when clearly, they are there for the fact that it all is to make this game feel as much an ES game as possible, because they WERE features from previous ES games. There are many examples:

    Spellcrafting
    Stealing
    Stamina/Magicka bases chars
    Champion Point type system
    etc

    Yes the opposite could be said too, there are things here that as far as I am aware were not in other ES games:

    Fishing
    Antiquities
    Various Mount types
    TOT

    But who knows - some of these maybe coming in the newest ES game and ZOS might have been tipped off, and got a head start so that when that game finally hits - BOOM - "see what we did there guys, we got a feature of the new game already - now! No waiting for us to put it in later".
    Edited by Paulytnz on January 23, 2023 4:31AM
  • TaSheen
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    No
    I played Oblivion. And all the previous games beginning with Arena at release. I was very happy spellcrafting didn't make a return in Skyrim.....

    I really had no use for spellcrafting in the earlier games. I certainly don't think it's a good fit in an MMO. And I'm not really sanguine about a "new ES game". I'll believe it when I can pay for it.
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