Tattoos.... Tone them down a smidge?

Thee_Cheshire_Cat · January 2023

Hey, i love me some nice ink. As does one of my characters.

However, in this game it kinda seems it is go BIG as if FULL freaking body, or a facial.

How about some tasteful, tamed down, tatt options. Maybe back pieces (JUST the back), or some nice dragons, skulls, etc that could be put on the back, arms, shoulders, legs...

What i'm saying is, instead of going BIG, why not just go... simple? One great statement tatt, instead of... what's available.

wilykcat · January 2023

I suggest an customization option to change body marking colors like tattoos, kahjiit patterns, and others. Also more variety of those would be nice too.

Amerises · January 2023

There’s a cool back tattoo of wings 🤷🏻‍♂️

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan · January 2023

wilykcat wrote: »

I suggest an customization option to change body marking colors like tattoos, kahjiit patterns, and others. Also more variety of those would be nice too.

Agreed, and the key word here is "option". Some players would enjoy the larger tattoos and some the smaller.

Supreme_Atromancer · January 2023

Yeah, I agree.

I know its a matter of taste, for sure.

I'd personally like to see some more subtle stuff; some a little less than all-encompassing options.

Maybe some more armbands, one-arm (or leg?) only options, that sort of thing.

There's a couple in the base game I think are done really well. A great deal released, since, for me, feel over-the-top and I have no use for, even if I like the idea of them.

fleetingyouth_ESO · January 2023

I just don't like that there is almost no point to most of the body markings. There are very few outfits, costumes, and styles that let you show the ink off.

fizzylu · January 2023

Most of the tattoos in this game look like someone drew them on with a sharpie to me haha the ones that aren't black ink tend to look a bit better since they can pass as warpaint instead of actual tattoos. I usually just avoid them all though which is too bad since I'd love to rock some of the face markings with some actual makeup looks, but they're all in the same category and you can only equip one so haha sad life.

WaywardArgonian · January 2023

Yeah, I've been wanting this for years. More sleeve tattoos, back tattoos or other one-off tattoos, instead of full-body ink that often literally covers more skin than it leaves open.

Aelorin · January 2023

fleetingyouth_ESO wrote: »

I just don't like that there is almost no point to most of the body markings. There are very few outfits, costumes, and styles that let you show the ink off.

I have to agree here, there are not enough options to show off your tattoos while wearing armor/costumes.

LalMirchi · January 2023

fleetingyouth_ESO wrote: »

I just don't like that there is almost no point to most of the body markings. There are very few outfits, costumes, and styles that let you show the ink off.

Yes, what's the use of all the nice body art if there are extremely few options to show them off?

Michae · January 2023

It would also be nice if we could combine body and face scars with tattoos.

Feljax · January 2023

Agreed but we also need the option to hide different item slots so we can actually show off those tattoos!

Tenthirty2 · January 2023

Michae wrote: »

It would also be nice if we could combine body and face scars with tattoos.

This!^^^
Some ppl irl get a meaningful tattoo to cover up old scars, would be cool to do something similar in-game.
Would also love if we could pick and choose based on body part, similar to what we can do now with gear motifs.

So if a tattoo set has a wolf image I love for the chest area, but I don't want the arm or legs pieces I could use something else. Or just put nothing in those body slots.

Like others mentioned it's a bummer that we have a variety of cool full-body tats but by the time you get done equipping all your gear they're covered.

There are not very many "skimpy-but-feasible" armour motifs that show most of your tats but still look like something you could realistically wear into battle.

Not sure what the fix is, don't think there is one other than running around in our underclothes, which I see some do anyway lol.

What COULD work well is if ZOS would enable the option for us all to hide armour pieces individually, like we already can with headgear. The options are already built-in, but are only enabled for test versions for the devs. They get disabled in live unfortunately.

@ZOS_Kevin Feature request!

Danikat · January 2023

Michae wrote: »

It would also be nice if we could combine body and face scars with tattoos.

I agree.

It would also be nice if they could separate out khajiit fur patterns and argonian scale patterns from tattoos, body paint and other types of markings because at the moment it means I'm never going to use them on those characters.

Admittedly a lot of body markings would look messy overlaid on a fur or scale pattern, but some could work and at the moment it's out of the question for me to use any of them because I lose a basic part of the character's appearance when I do. I never get as far as thinking about how the new marking looks, as soon as I preview it and my jaguar khajiit suddenly looks like a lion I turn it off.

whitecrow · January 2023

Wings of the Wind Goddess is an old favorite.

Thee_Cheshire_Cat · January 2023

Amerises wrote: »

There’s a cool back tattoo of wings 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yes... however... then they have that stupid bit over the collar bones too. i woulda gotten the wings, if not for the bit on the front.

Would love a snake that wraps around the arm or leg, or even from chest to ankle.,. but just ONE snake... not a whole body throw up of thick ink.

There are lots of possibilities that could totally up the tattoo game.

As mentioned, arm bands or sleeves... yaaas

peacenote · January 2023

Agreed. I would like to add that tattoos aren't the only area where we have a lot of variety on the surface but when you look closely, it turns out not really.

Skins are like this to me. I love the idea of skins to transform your look. But SO MANY of them wipe out your eyes. Why do they all have to do this? Can't we get some that change our skin without making our faces unrecognizable?

And we can never have enough hairstyles regardless, but there are only about two that add fun color dyes to your hair. I would like more of that kind of thing, too.

harvey07 · January 2023

full body tattoos and skins that have face markings are the ones i really really really dislike.

fleetingyouth_ESO · January 2023

When I first made my character years ago I was surprised by how cool some of the full-body paint options were available in the creation tab. In my opinion, most of them are way better designed than most of the ones I see for sale/crates.

I went with the full-body black paint with reb bone-like lines. I love it and have been disappointed every day since that I never get to see it. Similarly, why should all the customization options and creative control we have at character creation be thrown out just because we want the benefits of being a vampire? The game mechanic disadvantages make sense but the cosmetic ones just make all that effort a waste.

Thee_Cheshire_Cat · January 2023

How fun would it be, if there were tattoo parlors in game. i'd of course, expect tatts to costs A LOT. But the parlor would allow us to choose what we wanted, where, and perhaps depending on where we chose the size would change accordingly.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · January 2023

Lately tattoos and body markings has been badly textured (such as Knights of St. Pelin which looks badly cut out around the edges), obnoxious, and/or just downright weird, like the Red Diamond Body Stainwork for example.
Seriously, what is this?

Just look at the current crate season and ones rewarded from Legacy of Breton content. Strange overly saturated patterns and very niché designs.

As usual, where is the more lore friendly and subtle markings? Why don't we have markings like the ones dunmer had in Morrowind and other racial/culture fitting ones? The Nibenese imperials are told in lore to be known for garish tattoos and brandings, among many other things.

Or just common tattoo themes, like sailor ones. When we finally got a pirate/sailor themed ones they have weird choices of motifs and are all perfectly symmetrical.

Why are all body markings symmetrical nowadays and follow the same pattern over the whole body?

I'd love to see more varied tattoos, brandings, paints and other markings which are asymmetrical or just on a part of the body. Only on arms, maybe on just one arm, only on the back etc.

More cultural ones that feel immersive (So no Red Diamond stainwork!)

TES3: Morrowind themed dunmer markings.
Maybe pierced or ash themed markings for orcs. Always felt it suiting for them to make body and face paints out of ash or coal for Malacath.
Imperials would likely have some that varies between Nibenese and Colovians, but also have some in common. Such as Nibenese would have garish and elaborate ones for just aestethics, but also magic or philosophy themed. Colovians might have simpler ones, especially military themed, and both could have religious ones.
There's not a single bosmer marking of what I can recall. Most nature, Y'ffre or such themed markings are generic, or to druids, Wyrd, etc, not bosmer.
Also, more scars. It's impossible to make a heavily scarred character, unless you want burn scars. The ones we have don't look natural either. It's all symmetrical again with one there on the arm, on the opposite arm etc or weirdly placed randomly but evenly spread out. They are not where scars are most likely to be and from natural looking wounds and attacks.

The list goes on.

fizzylu · January 2023

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Lately tattoos and body markings has been badly textured (such as Knights of St. Pelin which looks badly cut out around the edges), obnoxious, and/or just downright weird, like the Red Diamond Body Stainwork for example.

Yeah, I'd say this is definitely one of the weirdest ones they have created. Like I could understand an Imperial having some Red Diamond themed body markings.... but stained glass-like tattoos/warpaint? It really makes no sense. It's also funny that they released it AND an actual stained glass Red Diamond window furnishing haha it's like what, did they just use the concept art for it and convert it into body markings? xD

Supreme_Atromancer · January 2023

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Lately tattoos and body markings has been badly textured (such as Knights of St. Pelin which looks badly cut out around the edges), obnoxious, and/or just downright weird, like the Red Diamond Body Stainwork for example.
Seriously, what is this?

Just look at the current crate season and ones rewarded from Legacy of Breton content. Strange overly saturated patterns and very niché designs.

As usual, where is the more lore friendly and subtle markings? Why don't we have markings like the ones dunmer had in Morrowind and other racial/culture fitting ones? The Nibenese imperials are told in lore to be known for garish tattoos and brandings, among many other things.

Or just common tattoo themes, like sailor ones. When we finally got a pirate/sailor themed ones they have weird choices of motifs and are all perfectly symmetrical.

Why are all body markings symmetrical nowadays and follow the same pattern over the whole body?

I'd love to see more varied tattoos, brandings, paints and other markings which are asymmetrical or just on a part of the body. Only on arms, maybe on just one arm, only on the back etc.

More cultural ones that feel immersive (So no Red Diamond stainwork!)
TES3: Morrowind themed dunmer markings.

Maybe pierced or ash themed markings for orcs. Always felt it suiting for them to make body and face paints out of ash or coal for Malacath.

Imperials would likely have some that varies between Nibenese and Colovians, but also have some in common. Such as Nibenese would have garish and elaborate ones for just aestethics, but also magic or philosophy themed. Colovians might have simpler ones, especially military themed, and both could have religious ones.

There's not a single bosmer marking of what I can recall. Most nature, Y'ffre or such themed markings are generic, or to druids, Wyrd, etc, not bosmer.

Also, more scars. It's impossible to make a heavily scarred character, unless you want burn scars. The ones we have don't look natural either. It's all symmetrical again with one there on the arm, on the opposite arm etc or weirdly placed randomly but evenly spread out. They are not where scars are most likely to be and from natural looking wounds and attacks.

The list goes on.

This touches on something I am REALLY passionate about. And it goes for not only the tattoos, but practically everything in the crown store.

I'm not opposed to the crown store, but PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF THE DIVINES:

START WITH THE LORE, for inspiration.

PLEASE STOP throwing random soulless whatever and forcing the lore to fit it.

francesinhalover · January 2023

Can we have only body parts tatoos? like only one arm or only one leg etc.

Like i don't use 99% of my tatoo's because tbh i don't like having things on my chest. sometimes i'd rather just have a back tatoo, maybe a dragon ya know?

Zodiarkslayer · January 2023

☝️☝️☝️
What a lot of players don't get is that tattoos in ESO are swapped out body textures, not decals like the earrings for example.
They have to be, because movement and the animation of skills would distort them otherwise.
🤓

So changing or recoloring existing tattoos is sadly impossible. 😕

Kisakee · January 2023

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

☝️☝️☝️
What a lot of players don't get is that tattoos in ESO are swapped out body textures, not decals like the earrings for example.
They have to be, because movement and the animation of skills would distort them otherwise.
🤓

So changing or recoloring existing tattoos is sadly impossible. 😕

Tell this to my vampires..

Dr_Con · January 2023

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

move over "treating your body like a temple!"

you can now BE the temple!

NotaDaedraWorshipper · January 2023

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Lately tattoos and body markings has been badly textured (such as Knights of St. Pelin which looks badly cut out around the edges), obnoxious, and/or just downright weird, like the Red Diamond Body Stainwork for example.
Seriously, what is this?

Just look at the current crate season and ones rewarded from Legacy of Breton content. Strange overly saturated patterns and very niché designs.

As usual, where is the more lore friendly and subtle markings? Why don't we have markings like the ones dunmer had in Morrowind and other racial/culture fitting ones? The Nibenese imperials are told in lore to be known for garish tattoos and brandings, among many other things.

Or just common tattoo themes, like sailor ones. When we finally got a pirate/sailor themed ones they have weird choices of motifs and are all perfectly symmetrical.

Why are all body markings symmetrical nowadays and follow the same pattern over the whole body?

I'd love to see more varied tattoos, brandings, paints and other markings which are asymmetrical or just on a part of the body. Only on arms, maybe on just one arm, only on the back etc.

More cultural ones that feel immersive (So no Red Diamond stainwork!)
TES3: Morrowind themed dunmer markings.

Maybe pierced or ash themed markings for orcs. Always felt it suiting for them to make body and face paints out of ash or coal for Malacath.

Imperials would likely have some that varies between Nibenese and Colovians, but also have some in common. Such as Nibenese would have garish and elaborate ones for just aestethics, but also magic or philosophy themed. Colovians might have simpler ones, especially military themed, and both could have religious ones.

There's not a single bosmer marking of what I can recall. Most nature, Y'ffre or such themed markings are generic, or to druids, Wyrd, etc, not bosmer.

Also, more scars. It's impossible to make a heavily scarred character, unless you want burn scars. The ones we have don't look natural either. It's all symmetrical again with one there on the arm, on the opposite arm etc or weirdly placed randomly but evenly spread out. They are not where scars are most likely to be and from natural looking wounds and attacks.

The list goes on.

This touches on something I am REALLY passionate about. And it goes for not only the tattoos, but practically everything in the crown store.

I'm not opposed to the crown store, but PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF THE DIVINES:

START WITH THE LORE, for inspiration.

PLEASE STOP throwing random soulless whatever and forcing the lore to fit it.

Same, Atromancer. Same, and it's getting painfully bad these days.
There is so much random fluff that sticks out like a sore thumb they forcibly shape the lore for to make it fit, instead of making things inspired by the lore. The in game world, other TES games, and lore are filled with items that would be great cosmetics that feels immersive.

The npcs doesn't even use most of this garbage, and on the rare occasion they do it looks out of place.

I know some people like this flashy fluff and buy them, but I know a lot of people would love to buy more immersive things, myself included.

I don't want some daedric lizard welwa mount with glowing swirls, I just want a normal hairy welwa.

Preferably with the armour being a stamina upgrade or something so it doesn't have to be super armoured.

Instead of the next new strange mount made with sparkles and giant pillar of light on summon, I want an echatere

Same goes for any other crown store cosmetic, like the markings. We keep getting weirdly textured and coloured ones, instead of ones that feel like Elder Scrolls. I'm surprised they haven't gone all nostalgic and given us the Morrowind themed markings because they don't have to come up with something new for them, they already got a certain style that can be used as a foundation. We only got like to of them, and both got blue metallic colour.
Something like these would work well:

They are face ones, but the style can be added to parts of the body too. Emphasis on parts, body markings doesn't have to be all over.

I can bet that we will continue to get exaggerated and niche personalities before we get the "Old", "Injured", or "Shy" ones we see npcs already use.

LittlePinkDot · January 2023

Amerises wrote: »

There’s a cool back tattoo of wings 🤷🏻‍♂️

Wings on the back is so cheesy. It's like a higher placed "tramp stamp"

BlueRaven · January 2023

I don’t mind that many tattoos are “full body”. If just a small part of the body is exposed then it helps that are tattoos all over. That way the tattoo is at least exposed somewhere.

(Excuse to insert picture of one of my characters.)

That being said I would not mind some more asymmetrical tattoos.

fleetingyouth_ESO · January 2023

This touches on something I am REALLY passionate about. And it goes for not only the tattoos, but practically everything in the crown store.

I'm not opposed to the crown store, but PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF THE DIVINES:

START WITH THE LORE, for inspiration.

PLEASE STOP throwing random soulless whatever and forcing the lore to fit it.

I understand why you feel this way but ESO is an MMO and it shouldn't be held back solely by the lore. I'd be happy with lots of new lore-friendly cosmetics and don't see a reason why they shouldn't be doing more. But whether the game is considered canon or not it should be free to explore and expand outside of the TES games. At the end of the day, they are different games and not everybody cares about the lore or TES games.

Id rather have better-designed and useful content than lore-inspired stuff. But again we shouldn't have to choose they should be able to do better for both audiences.