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CountonMe
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[snip] Instead of seeing suggestions and constructive criticisms, I see a lot of hateful bashing.
Just enjoy the game, and when you feel frustrated with dungeons, or your bad luck (rng), or whatever, remember, it's the same for everyone. Everyone goes through it, everyone deals with it, you're not alone, and no, ZOS doesn't hate you.
Remember, you're CHOOSING to be here. Don't ruin it for others. Just laugh it off.
Thank you, ZOS for this great game. It's a work in progress, and I'm glad to be a part of it.

[edited for baiting]
Edited by ZOS_Exile on October 26, 2022 5:08PM
  • SpacemanSpiff1
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    no
  • Snamyap
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    When constructive criticism falls on deaf ears people get frustrated. Remember that people vent their frustrating because they (still) care about the game. When there are so many things that needs fixing and all you see is ZOS coming up with another way to squeeze money out of people (fancy alteration of harvesting, etc) then you wonder where their priorities lay.
  • Elsonso
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    This thread will be closed for baiting, but Snamyap is right. People who don't care don't speak up. As with any game, suggestions and constructive criticism gives way to less productive things as the level of studio indifference increases.
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  • Billium813
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    CountonMe wrote: »
    [snip] Instead of seeing suggestions and constructive criticisms, I see a lot of hateful bashing.
    Just enjoy the game, and when you feel frustrated with dungeons, or your bad luck (rng), or whatever, remember, it's the same for everyone. Everyone goes through it, everyone deals with it, you're not alone, and no, ZOS doesn't hate you.
    Remember, you're CHOOSING to be here. Don't ruin it for others. Just laugh it off.
    Thank you, ZOS for this great game. It's a work in progress, and I'm glad to be a part of it.

    Be careful about confirmation bias. The forums are a natural, curated collection of complaints. It would be easy to think this represents the player base, when it's really just a fraction of players AND doesn't mean those players don't enjoy many of the games aspects.

    Generally speaking, players that start forum posts are doing so because they see something they don't like and either want it changed, or want to offer suggestions on how to change it. You yourself are, ironically, sharing a negative opinion about the negative views expressed in the forums! Players tend to call out the issues vocally and yet quietly enjoy the things they enjoy.

    Be the change you want to see! Instead of telling people to stop complaining, start some topics on the great things you enjoy about the game and want ZOS to continue with!

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 24, 2022 4:59PM
  • SaffronCitrusflower
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    Complaining about complainers?

    As others have pointed out, it's frustrating to engage in polite discussion about the game and be totally ignored at every turn; for years.
    CountonMe wrote: »
    [snip] Instead of seeing suggestions and constructive criticisms, I see a lot of hateful bashing.
    Just enjoy the game, and when you feel frustrated with dungeons, or your bad luck (rng), or whatever, remember, it's the same for everyone. Everyone goes through it, everyone deals with it, you're not alone, and no, ZOS doesn't hate you.
    Remember, you're CHOOSING to be here. Don't ruin it for others. Just laugh it off.
    Thank you, ZOS for this great game. It's a work in progress, and I'm glad to be a part of it.

    And calling ESO work in progress after 8 plus years is, well, sadly pretty accurate.

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 24, 2022 4:59PM
  • Dangranma_Burgrukgad
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    There are the parts of the game that are literally unplayabale.
    As someone that love those parts, should I laugh it off?
  • The_Lex
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    Fixed it for you, OP...
    CountonMe wrote: »
    [snip] Instead of seeing suggestions and constructive criticisms, I see a lot of hateful bashing [of people who believe they have legitimate complaints].

    Just enjoy the [forums], and when you feel frustrated with [people who have complaints], or your [time of the forums seem filled with complaints on a particular day], or whatever, remember, it's the same for everyone. Everyone goes through it, everyone deals with it, you're not alone, and no, [the people who have complaints about the game don't] hate you.

    Remember, you're CHOOSING to be [on the forums]. Don't ruin it for others. Just laugh it off.
    Thank you, ZOS for this [forum where we can share our disagreements and discuss our issues with the game]. [We're all] a work in progress, and I'm glad to be a part of it.

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 24, 2022 5:00PM
  • AvalonRanger
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    I think that OP is already complaining...Well what's kind of purpose of this thread anyway?
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  • Sarannah
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    Complaining about what bothers us is a good thing, as maybe it gets fixed. At the very least we get it off of our chests, and are able to see if others agree, or maybe even offer solutions.

    Even the ideas or things I disagree with, people should be able to post. We all love the game, we all play despite the few things we dislike. We all just love the game differently and from different points of view.

    We love the game, now we all just have to love eachother! (and ZOS)
  • KingExecration
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    CountonMe wrote: »
    [snip] Instead of seeing suggestions and constructive criticisms, I see a lot of hateful bashing.
    Just enjoy the game, and when you feel frustrated with dungeons, or your bad luck (rng), or whatever, remember, it's the same for everyone. Everyone goes through it, everyone deals with it, you're not alone, and no, ZOS doesn't hate you.
    Remember, you're CHOOSING to be here. Don't ruin it for others. Just laugh it off.
    Thank you, ZOS for this great game. It's a work in progress, and I'm glad to be a part of it.

    Suggestions and constructive criticism?

    Where were you years ago???

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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 24, 2022 5:01PM
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    Some people only feel better if they complain a lot. I agree with the OP and try not to post here to much to stay away from these people.
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    CountonMe wrote: »
    [snip] Instead of seeing suggestions and constructive criticisms, I see a lot of hateful bashing.
    Just enjoy the game, and when you feel frustrated with dungeons, or your bad luck (rng), or whatever, remember, it's the same for everyone. Everyone goes through it, everyone deals with it, you're not alone, and no, ZOS doesn't hate you.
    Remember, you're CHOOSING to be here. Don't ruin it for others. Just laugh it off.
    Thank you, ZOS for this great game. It's a work in progress, and I'm glad to be a part of it.

    [edited for baiting]

    And when your frustrations dont go away?

    Leave the game.

    When playing the game gives you frustrations to no end and you cant vent your frustrations on anything, you just suck it up and keep playing the game until you cant stand your frustrations?

    Leave the game.

    Its an option.
  • Tenthirty2
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    CountonMe wrote: »
    [snip] Instead of seeing suggestions and constructive criticisms, I see a lot of hateful bashing.
    Just enjoy the game, and when you feel frustrated with dungeons, or your bad luck (rng), or whatever, remember, it's the same for everyone. Everyone goes through it, everyone deals with it, you're not alone, and no, ZOS doesn't hate you.
    Remember, you're CHOOSING to be here. Don't ruin it for others. Just laugh it off.
    Thank you, ZOS for this great game. It's a work in progress, and I'm glad to be a part of it.

    [edited for baiting]

    I agree with what you are saying, to a point.

    When I started playing a couple years ago this forum was my first stop before playing and often during, while I was queuing for something. I rarely bothered looking at the other subs bcuz there was enough cool stuff on this front page alone I didn't need to look elsewhere.

    Over the last year I read and post here less and less and often read other sub forums like housing bcuz while they are less active, there is also a much more enjoyable quality of topic there.

    Many, not all, but many of the general forums posts in the last year are just miserable and depressing\frustrating.
    I agree with some of them, but when a large number of posts are all ppl complaining about the SAME BLOODY THING, it gets old.
    PPL need to vent, especially if they are upset about something they are invested in and just laughing it off becomes quite difficult sometimes. Which is how we get yet another new complaint thread about u35, for example, but it doesn't surprise me that multiples of the same topic get modded and shut down.

    Further, if ZOS was reading and had plans to do anything about whatever topic\issue, I feel we would see some kind of acknowledgement. Since we don't, another 100 redundant threads aren't going to make a difference. The logic that "if one person complaining isn't enough a thousand will surely get action" doesn't work here. Best thing to do is search for an already active established thread and add your details to it.
    Likely the main reason they consolidate threads or lock and direct ppl to existing ones isn't bcuz they are trying to silence us, or anything dramatic. It's to keep all the data in ONE source, so if they need to reference an issue they have one source of info. Somebody comes to you with a technical problem do you want them to hand you 20 documents that detail the issue, or just one?

    Like others have said it really comes down to a simple decision, if you find enjoyment in the game, enjoy those things. If you no longer do then find a game that does bring you joy.
    Same with the forum, it's a mental well-being issue. If something has become toxic the healthiest thing you can do is separate yourself from it.

    I know I got a bit OT talking about reasons for complaint threads, but this thread is also, in a way, also a complaint thread.
    I clicked into your thread, first thing, bypassing tons of others, bcuz of the title.
    I had thought it might just be a cool story about something in-game that you experienced, etc.
    But it's not.
    Edited by Tenthirty2 on October 26, 2022 1:14PM
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  • rootkitronin
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    CountonMe wrote: »
    [snip] Instead of seeing suggestions and constructive criticisms, I see a lot of hateful bashing.
    Just enjoy the game, and when you feel frustrated with dungeons, or your bad luck (rng), or whatever, remember, it's the same for everyone. Everyone goes through it, everyone deals with it, you're not alone, and no, ZOS doesn't hate you.
    Remember, you're CHOOSING to be here. Don't ruin it for others. Just laugh it off.
    Thank you, ZOS for this great game. It's a work in progress, and I'm glad to be a part of it.

    [edited for baiting]

    Who exactly is ruining what for others? Or is your statements being kept intentionally vague in order to bait people - if not, I'd love some specifics here.

    And work in progress?? Last time I checked, ESO was released 8 years ago. And given how formulaic the game has become, nothing about ESO is a work in progress.

    If you don't like the community being critical, and would rather label it as "hateful bashing" - or can't understand why players are frustrated with the state of things and communication with ZOS, then you don't have to engage or interact with them.

    Remember, you're CHOOSING to be here. Yeah, that works both ways.

    Edited by rootkitronin on October 26, 2022 4:48PM
  • ZOS_Exile
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    Greetings,

    Because this thread has derailed rather quickly with baiting and bashing commentary, we felt it was best to close it down. We know people will not always agree and many of you will share different opinions, but please remember that being rude to your fellow community members is against our forum rules and not in the spirit of our game.

    Thank you for your understanding.
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