this has been discussed many times. I want defile to be more effective, others disagree.

What makes sense and what most players seem to agree on is to nerf the number of sources of radiating regen and vigor stacks to be 2 with battle spirit active. For some reason this suggestion falls on deaf ears.

M0ntie wrote: »

A change to make Vigor and Radiating regen only able to get 2 stacks on one player would be a good general fix for both PVP and PVE. Trials have max 2 healers.

Agree for PvP, disagree for PvE.

Stacking HoTs can make a significant difference for groups learning to handle rapid incoming groupwide damage, so limiting the maximum number of stacks per player in PvE would just be needlessly harming that mitigative technique on top of U35's healing changes.

sabresandiego_ESO wrote: »

The game just isn’t very fun because it takes so long to kill anyone who’s receiving heals. Makes the game a slow paced snoozer.

The 10% nerf to resolving vigor is a good move, but it doesn’t change anything for when healers are stalemating fights into absolute boredom

OP thank you for your thoughts on the matter of healing as it relates to PvP Combat.

Allow me to retort.

The experience that my Team and I have had, which includes many fights and heals/deaths that I have witnessed in PvP, indicates that nerfing healing globally any further is not really going to fix anything however it will exasperate healing deficit that we already have. So, not too long ago they nerfed healing globally and made a couple other changes with I believe the intention of tackling the insanely over-powered ball groups which have been known to be problematic to normal gameplay in PvP. Alas, healing was nerfed globally including specific healing nerfs along the way to various healing skills.

The result of these actions have not had any discernable effect on ball groups or elite tanky players that everyone loves to complain about. As stated on here as well as for some of them on their stream, they overcame all of these challenges to their power, specifically in this case healing power. The net effect instead was that solo casuals such as myself, as well as a couple NBs I know, all of us are now hard pressed, on the edge, with our backs up against the wall trying to heal *ourselves* let alone our Team. For example, the resto staff heals were nerfed, Rad Regen is useless, of these morphs Rapid Regen is the only heal still reliable, not as effective as before but it is only one that produces a satisfactory heal. Which is ironic because this morph was in their crosshairs to axe and now the nerf to Regen as well as Vigors has hit us so hard its the only thing worth using from the general heals kit. So in their rage to get at Rapid Regen they killed everything else and most players have said they only use Rapid now.

Additionally, I feel its worth mentioning the concept of healing is sorely overshadowed by the extreme dmg being dished out from things such as Occult Overload, Vicious Death, as well as other heavy hitting sets and damage types. The idea here is while healing traditionally was our second line of defense against damage, with mitigation being the first, now in many instances where groups or large numbers of players are gathered, I'm not certain where to draw the line on healing as its a mere positive effect rather than a traditional solution. I cannot out heal a bomber. I cannot out heal extreme siege damage, even for tall builds. My heals are not reliable against a fast moving ball groups, neither are they reliable against a large number of players. See the rules have changed and there is a larger picture here, one that has over-time worked healing largely out of PvP because no matter how hard I heal people will still die from other things. Death is laughing hard at all of us trying to protect or otherwise save others using heals and so if heals aren't relevant anymore then no need to keep nerfing them.

To close this reply, I'll say there are a couple heals that still work as intended however many of us feel, if they nerf these healing abilities any harder PvP will only be playable by groups and alot of us don't group, there is no need to force us into groups. Ball groups will again, keep on rollin' while everyone else gets the axe. Something has to give and it needs to start by getting away from this culture of blaming healing so much. Healing should only be nerfed again as a last resort because there are many other things that need to be taken into account first and potentially explained as to why the fix isn't inclusive to other skills yet healing alone with the focus. Yet, with the state of the game all things considered heals themselves aren't entirely relevant or reliable so I would severely question as well as be somewhat suspicious of any agenda seeking a broader nerf to healing abilities.

They keep nerfing damage abilities, and sets that boost damage of abilities don't match the defensive sets. They can keep making the rest of the HOTs pathetic, but it doesnt matter when the DOTs are already pathetic.