Why LA is not an autoattack?

Vaoh · July 2022

divnyi wrote: »

Elsonso turn it off in settings then?

Vaoh we had pets and sets for ages. Xbox bots are prime example of how easy is it to kill overland without taking aim. It doesn't change a thing in harder content, which is about mechanics and coordination.

Sorc pets/proc sets are passive damage. Light attacks are a core aspect of combat that the player engages with and are a staple of TES games. No, I would never want light attacks to be automated.

I’m not sure I understand why anyone would want this either unless if pushing world record trial scores. In the end I’m playing ESO and I want to have fun..... for me, having the game play itself is not fun. I could also say the same about doing 20+ lava whips in a row in rotations next patch though lol.

Elsonso · July 2022

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JustAGoodPlayer · July 2022

divnyi wrote: »

DomstarX wrote: »

For beginner to mid level players i see no advantage in casting skills without LAW. Thats the reason this auto LA system would be implemented, right?

I mean you need to hit LA on the boss once during the whole fight. It's not making the game lot harder.

Some builds only use LA to make damage so their gameplay becomes just standing near boss )))

So i do not think it will be healthy for the game - but in mobile devices it works just this way )))

I think a player need press some buttons and it is not right to make character who press buttons manually the same as player who do not press it at all, but damage difference now is just a way to big )))

Now player with good rotation do about 120k, player with no LA will only make about 95-100k.

With current pts changes i think even with LA numbers on some classes are about 85-90 ? )))

So ... this patch is really not some thing that i want to see on live in the current form )

If ZOS buff companions power by the way it will be good to ))

If they just add spammable with no calldown for them it already would be good )))

danno8 · July 2022

I think you are conflating the LA/HA flat damage change with the huge nerfs some skills are receiving in U35. They are separate things.

If they made LA automatic tomorrow they would still be going through with all the other nerfs anyway. Why would you think otherwise?

If LA were automatic why would they even exist? High end groups would be required to use it since it would be baked into the games expectations for overall damage, so making it optional doesn't solve anything. Might as well just add LA to the skill GCD to eliminate weaving and call it a day.

What the game needs is a simple tutorial that highlights the advantages of weaving a LA at the start of every skill so people know that it exists and can practice it for a few minutes.

BronzeCaiman · July 2022

I agree that LA should be automatic, the speed of LA and the animation cancelling has always made the gameplay look ugly. LA doesn´t feel impactful, they carry no weight, its like throwing ping pong balls at my opponent. I feel like seeing a Crystal Fragment or Flame Skull fully animate is more satisfactory.

I feel like automatic light attacks on your selected Tab Targeted enemy has always been the answer. Since its been a part of the game for so long, any changes they try to make won´t really become viable until around 10 updates of working on changing the combat.

Realistically somebody could run away from you in PvP while turning around and light attacking you on cooldown, that is very high APM, but it is also ridiculous.

JustAGoodPlayer · July 2022

danno8 wrote: »

I think you are conflating the LA/HA flat damage change with the huge nerfs some skills are receiving in U35. They are separate things.

If they made LA automatic tomorrow they would still be going through with all the other nerfs anyway. Why would you think otherwise?

If LA were automatic why would they even exist? High end groups would be required to use it since it would be baked into the games expectations for overall damage, so making it optional doesn't solve anything. Might as well just add LA to the skill GCD to eliminate weaving and call it a day.

What the game needs is a simple tutorial that highlights the advantages of weaving a LA at the start of every skill so people know that it exists and can practice it for a few minutes.

HA now is just destroyed ))) So for me this patch is not good change at all ))

Mr_Stach · July 2022

So I'm trying to understand the argument, ESO is an Action MMO but you want to add in an Auto Swinger? I don't think that would be a good change at all and would lead to even more complacent changes, why not just add a Bot Mode for Farming Resources, or Auto-Path to your Objective.

I just think Auto Anything goes against the core combat of ESO. I wouldn't ever take the interaction out of an Action MMO, I've got Arthritis in my wrists and Ulnar Nerve Damage in my mouse hand and I can still Light Weave, it sometimes hurts like hell so I switch to controller, but the capability is there. Some people have it worse than I do, but in that circumstance I would suggest going controller full time or maybe getting a mouse that you can remap easier to.

JustAGoodPlayer · July 2022

Make game auto makes it not interesting to play with some short amount of time.

As example do you like mobile games ? )))

Slicesym · July 2022

Bad take

josh.lackey_ESO · July 2022

I does feel like this game wants you to develop a repetitive stress injury just to get middling DPS.

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

That would have the same effect as removing light attacks entirely.

Removing light attack weaving entirely is actually a great idea.

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

It would make combat slow and dull. The GCD of one button press per second is not engaging enough for fast-paced action combat.

You are forgetting about the mandatory bar swap and intermittent pots on CD. Not to mention dodging, blocking, and movement as mechanics require.

katorga · July 2022

Don't worry my bet is Update 35 auto attack and 5s cooldown per ability slot.