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Ground DoT’s- Winter’s Revenge

MindOfTheSwarm
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Every Ground DoT has 33% Increased Damage per tick. Except Winter’s Revenge which has 33% Reduced.

Any explanation on this?

What was supposed to be the most powerful ground AoE DoT is now the weakest ground AoE DoT.

Also, way to go to completely kill Frost DD. Winter’s Revenge was a huge part of a Frost DD Damage. It was critical to the build. Now I’m worried I’ll be barely able to scrape the minimum DPS parses on my Frost DD that guilds ask for in Vet content.
Edited by MindOfTheSwarm on July 11, 2022 6:07PM
  • kringled_1
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    Twisting path, stampede, and ritual of retribution also got significant tick reduction.
  • MindOfTheSwarm
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    kringled_1 wrote: »
    Twisting path, stampede, and ritual of retribution also got significant tick reduction.
    Fair enough, but NB got significant buffs to compensate. Warden did not. Warden has been nerfed for no reason, Warden needed buffs not nerfs.

    My point still stands however, Winter’s Revenge is critical to a Frostden’s Power. Without it, Frost DD is dead.
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    kringled_1 wrote: »
    Twisting path, stampede, and ritual of retribution also got significant tick reduction.
    Fair enough, but NB got significant buffs to compensate. Warden did not. Warden has been nerfed for no reason, Warden needed buffs not nerfs.

    My point still stands however, Winter’s Revenge is critical to a Frostden’s Power. Without it, Frost DD is dead.

    Arctic blast is viable now i guess but it's not enough to save frostden. Sustaining is incredibly hard with the nerfs and when trying to use blast
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  • MindOfTheSwarm
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    kringled_1 wrote: »
    Twisting path, stampede, and ritual of retribution also got significant tick reduction.
    Fair enough, but NB got significant buffs to compensate. Warden did not. Warden has been nerfed for no reason, Warden needed buffs not nerfs.

    My point still stands however, Winter’s Revenge is critical to a Frostden’s Power. Without it, Frost DD is dead.

    Arctic blast is viable now i guess but it's not enough to save frostden. Sustaining is incredibly hard with the nerfs and when trying to use blast

    I am at a loss. I wonder if the balance devs simply look at individual skills and say ‘that’s too strong nerf’ without looking at the class as a whole. I can see 0 reason why Winter’s Revenge received a nerf when Graveyard and Lightning Splash got a buff.

    I think it’s to make sure the all deal comparable damage…. But this further removes class identity and dilutes any feeling of uniqueness.
  • Vaoh
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    The damage is the least of our concerns rn.

    They are homogenizing every DoT in the game next patch and it’s beyond boring.
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    I don’t think people realise how much this one skill has been nerfed.

    Live it is 1 tick every second for 12 Seconds.

    If you do 2k per tick, this equates to 24k over whole duration.

    On PTS, it is 1 tick every 2 seconds for 20 seconds.

    This equates to 20k. A 4k nerf, but wait, it is also 33% reduced damage per tick.

    So total would now be 13,400.

    So a loss of 6600 damage over its duration.

    Total DPS per second in PTS in comparison would be:

    Live: 2k per second.
    PTS: 670 per second.

    That is not a 33% damage nerf, it is a 67% DPS nerf on this skill.

    Then take PvP into account for a further 50% damage reduction.

    335 per second. And that isn’t even taking into account Armor and defensive buffs lmao.
    Edited by MindOfTheSwarm on July 12, 2022 4:35AM
  • WrathOfInnos
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    Maybe it still ticks every second? The 2s patch note could be copy paste. If it really is every 2s that is a massive nerf to it's ability to proc chilled, as well as its damage.
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    Maybe it still ticks every second? The 2s patch note could be copy paste. If it really is every 2s that is a massive nerf to it's ability to proc chilled, as well as its damage.

    I doubt it is copy paste, some other ground DoT’s got a 33% damage per tick increase.
  • Soarora
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    Maybe it still ticks every second? The 2s patch note could be copy paste. If it really is every 2s that is a massive nerf to it's ability to proc chilled, as well as its damage.

    Can confirm it appears to be every 2 seconds on PTS.
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