Multiboxing is not an exploit.

Vlas wrote: »

Multiboxing is not an exploit.

Yeah, it's just simply forbidden.

Multiboxers or bots? Bots are operating outside of dungeons now I hear.

Given the bot plague I would assume bots before multiboxers - report it anyway and let the GMs decide.

While you wait enjoy my short playlist of botting footage I have filmed in the last two weeks.

Vlas wrote: »

Multiboxing has never been forbidden by any MMO.

If you want to know why Google/research it.

Nobody sane in mind multiboxes without using "helper" software. Third party software is forbidden by the TOS.
Are you an "interested party"?

Multiboxing is botting.
We have experienced considerable problems concerning bots in public dungeons, and I have personally seen a lot of multiboxing being perfomed by those bots.

I would very much like to know how Zos views this, as that is more relevant than how an individual player (who may or may not use multiboxing) feels about it.

Not all multiboxing is botting. "Good" multiboxers do it for the challenge of running a group. But good multiboxers also have a strict code of not interfering with others game play. They stay out of players way in public dungeons and don't hog mobs to farm them.

I love to multibox - but I never do it while afk, and I always am considerate of other players. I have not done it in this game and probably won't. But don't lump botters and all multiboxers together.

One farmer moaning about another farmer affecting their farming IS ignoring the fact that BOTH could be consistently affecting others game enjoyment [contra to the ToS], regardless of if they are farming with bots or real people, and are both in essence using some form of exploitative play method to a lesser or greater degree.

awhecknum1ub17_ESO wrote: »

Multiboxing is not forbidden - but afk farming is. I have multiboxed - but if you do it afk with a program - you are breaking the terms of the agreement. The player mentioned he sees them there 24/7 - that implies the multiboxer is afk farming and should be banned.

- Yes dude, i agree with you there. i logged on one morning and the player(s)
were there. logged back on 2 hours later and they were there. was doing a night shift in work and decided to jump on at 1am and they were still there, so i reported them 2-3times without a response from Zenimax.

Milanna wrote: »

awhecknum1ub17_ESO wrote: »

Not all multiboxing is botting. "Good" multiboxers do it for the challenge of running a group. But good multiboxers also have a strict code of not interfering with others game play. They stay out of players way in public dungeons and don't hog mobs to farm them.

I love to multibox - but I never do it while afk, and I always am considerate of other players. I have not done it in this game and probably won't. But don't lump botters and all multiboxers together.

Please do explain. I really don´t understand that. See, silly me has always thought it´s about leveling multiple characters at once.

Botting is automating chars through a 3rd party software.

Multiboxing is someone running multiple chars on different clients. EI: I am playing my main and have a 2nd char that just pops buffs/heals. This is not against most MMO rules.

No idea what the poster means about 'good multiboxers have a strict code of not interfering with others'. There is no difference between someone playing a single char or having a 2nd char nearby while they level AFK doing nothing or just popping a skill or 2... at all.

In regards to the "no response" - you will most likely NEVER get a response in regards to this. Not because Zenimax doesn't care - but because you simply do not get a response when Zenimax makes a judgement call about a reported player. Privacy issues etc.

In fact...if you read the auto-email you get every time you report a player, it flat out tells you this.

And you may not see an immediate reaction in game (ie. said multiboxer suddenly vanishes) because they will likely investigate first.

As for multiboxing...I suddenly feel like its 2004 again. In fact I think I saw this thread verbatum...

Multiboxing (not botting...botting bad) at it's most basic level involves setting up a keyboard to send individual commands to multiple instances of the game (and multiple accounts) at the same time with a single keystroke. This is not botting. It still requires a player to be sitting at the keyboard sending those keystrokes. So if I hit "1" it sends the "1" command to accountA and characterA performs their Ability1, at the same time "1" gets sent to accountB and characterB performs their Ability1. (As someone above said - it's not afk.)

That's it.

I for one likely will never multibox in ESO. I actually don't prefer to multibox but sometimes its useful. I used it in WoW after a couple expansions came out and Blizz gave me a free veteran account, and then upgraded it to cata for free as well via a ressurection scroll simply because...there was NO ONE in the starting zones! Which made any group things a pain.

If someone wants to pay for multiple accounts, and multiple subs - well they can farm same as you. If myself, my bf, and our friends who are married were all out farming together - you'd have the same problem. And ZOS would have sold the same number of accounts, and would be receiving the same number of subs. Granted...we'd likely be having more fun since we'd be sitting there joking with each other the whole time rather than farming solo.

Technically you are "manually" playing both characters (or 3 or 4) at the same time. Each client is running, each character is logged in. They are just all reading the same keystroke from the same keyboard.

It's not automated at all. It's just well multitasking. Instead of the "1" doing one thing on one client. It does the same thing on two (3, 4) clients. None of them will do anything unless you hit "1" and they will all do "1" when you hit "1".

Multiple puppets, one set of strings.

Yes and AI research is also very useful for making trojan worms. What's your point?

I used to love multiboxing toons in EQ with my druid Wean. I would take my toons to Paludal Caverns and just go at it. The good ole days.

dawnhawk wrote: »

Technically you are "manually" playing both characters (or 3 or 4) at the same time. Each client is running, each character is logged in. They are just all reading the same keystroke from the same keyboard.

It's not automated at all. It's just well multitasking. Instead of the "1" doing one thing on one client. It does the same thing on two (3, 4) clients. None of them will do anything unless you hit "1" and they will all do "1" when you hit "1".

Multiple puppets, one set of strings.

That doesn't make it allowed in every game and even the companies struggle sometimes where to draw the line with these kind of things so i have no idea what is the official stance in this game.
Multiboxing is forbidden in some mmo's like in Guild Wars 2. see example -

players are permitted to use macros as long as the macros are programmed with a 1 key for 1 function protocol.
This means that if you program a macro, it must require one keystroke per action. You may not program a single key to perform multiple functions.
Dual- or Multi-Boxing
You may use more than one account at the same time.
You may use more than one computer at the same time.
You must be actively playing on each account.
And as stated above, you may not program your keyboard to perform functions on more than one account at a time.
a. For example, if you press W on your keyboard to move forward, a single character on a single account should move forward. The keystroke or mouse click should not perform functions on more than one account.

I have no idea though what is the official truth about multiboxing is in ESO.

South_of_Heaven wrote: »

Vlas wrote: »

Multiboxing is not an exploit.

Doesn't matter. They should not allow it in any case.

Doesn't matter what you think thankfully, it's what ZOS think and multiboxing is NOT an exploit .. BOTTING isn't allowed and multiboxing ISN'T BOTTING per se.

Please educate yourself.