I'm sticking around. Yes the downtime is a pain but it is because they are fixing things. We rage if they take the servers down to fix things and we rage when they don't fix things - doesn't make sense.

Have a little patience. It really is early days still. The fundamentals of the game are pretty good and the world environment is amazing. The bot plague isn't caused by Zenimax and I'm sure they know how vital it is to stem it. The bugged quests are a pain but bit by bit they are being worked on.

So enjoy what you can and take a deep breath and walk off and do some crafting when you get stuck or roll another alt - I have 4 so far.

It will all come together in the end and be worth it.

unsubbing if the EU server issues doesnt get better. Lag and downtime, always longer than EU.

cromdubh68 wrote: »

oeb17_ESO wrote: »

Game is great.

No! It is not! Have you played any other games??? There is nothing great about it. It has the potential to be great, but it has had that potential since the beginning of beta, or actually, since the beginning of development. The game is a fail on so many levels. It's incomplete, released early and unfinished due to greed. This is what Bethesda does. Take Morrowind, awesome game, so full of content and playability. Then oblivon, not so good, released with lots of the features we loved from morrowind missing. Then Skyrim.... yeah Skyrim, if it wasn't for the modding community, it would be the most disappointing ES game yet. So I was hardly surprised when Bethesda released ESO unfinished, un-polished and incomplete. It's their track record now.
This game was released on the strength that it was eagerly anticipated. Note the lack of a free trial at release? That's because they knew it was a bug ridden lag infest stack of brown stuff that should never have left beta, but they didn't care about that, they cared about money. If I had played a free trial then I, like many others, would have had serious doubts about paying for it. People who had not participated in beta had no choice but to buy the game. People who were true blue elder scrolls fans who have stayed faithful to the series despite it's many shortcomings sometimes. They have been cheated! £40 - £60 for this? I actually feel robbed. I work hard for my money! Was it too much to expect Bethesda and Zenimax to work hard for my money too by supplying me with something worth the expense?
As to the OP, I am undecided as to whether I will continue to sub. I don't want to, but I do believe the game could be great. That is the strength of my loyalty to the elder scrolls series. It seems it is asking too much to have that loyalty returned and repaid though if this is the best offering that they could give.

If the game is great for someone how can you say it is not? It is not for you that's for sure, but don't tell others what they should think. I can "feel" your anger and frustration, but for a reason or another, some people actually enjoy this game, even with some problems. I feel sorry for you if you feel the game is lacking in so many areas, but if you played the Beta(?) and after that bought the game, how did you not see the "failure" before?
And a note, every company wants money, how on earth they would survive if not. Greed, well, that's your own subjective thinking and can't change that.
Seriously, what's SO wrong? Downtimes, okay there have been quite a few, but I prefer (look, I, don't have to agree) fixing bugs as quick as possible and not always waiting for "everyone to agree on a downtime". It is a complex game that's for sure and if there is a need for downtime, so be it. There are limits to this (whatever they might be), but in my opinion we are no where near that.
Then again, people need to have the way to express their opinions, even if very negative. That said,
take care and good that you already said at least "could be great" ,

Cheers...

Uhh, a "why unsub" thread? So you really want me to list all the reasons for why I unsubbed the game? Alright! Sounds like fun, but also time consuming. Anyway:

1. Questing. Hate it and the fact that I am forced to quest only at vet levels is disgusting and boring alike.
2. Class skill bugs. For example: Nightblade's haste doesnt work with bows.
3. world skill bugs. vampire skills, nuff said.
4. weapon skill bugs. dual wield passive that doesnt give crit chance when having daggers equipped.
5. Combat bugs. For example you wont attack or do anything and move slower. workaround is pressinc esc key twice wtf.
6. bots
7. dupes
8. lag issues due to EU server located in US. eff you zenimax, seriously. money grabbing greedy arses.
9. crafting being pointless. best gear comes from crafting? Actually best gear comes from pvping and then upgrading this gear to artifact status.
10. crafting leveling by deconstructing more effective than crafting itself.
11. crafting runes ...
12. crafting food ...
13. crafting potions ......
14. game design decisions: magicka spells > stamina spells and light armor > heavy armor due to giving magic resistances -> pvp = AoE only which effectively only is negatable by wearing light armor due to being magic based attacks only. (There are no real physical AoE effects.)
15. AoE damage > single target dmg. this should never be the case yet it happend to me a lot in cyrodiil.
16. gold ...costs. = reason for why there are so many bots. gold being rare creates huge demand for it.
17. pvp is pointless. zerg or die, you wont get anything from it really and participating wont get you anything that matters except for green gear to upgrade. that being said, you dont need to really pvp for the bonuses. others will do it for you anyways. free riding dilemma.
18. most group unfriendly MMO I've ever seen. questing in groups is a living hell, dungeons are pointless after you ran them once due to no xp and mostly no loot.
19. Oh yeah, downtimes.

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stuff that finally ticks me off:

imperial edition and its sour taste of being another attempt to grab your money. horse = 1g and that stuff. no being a gamechanger? more like pay2win in terms of saving a lot of time while progressing.

elder scrolls being a themepark. and that's about it.

and finally. logging in, doing something, realizing that after 5 minutes there is nothing fun about playing. logging out again.

Yeah that is what I could recall on the fly. There might be more, slighter issues I cannot recall right now but only when playing, however, I just cant stand playing anymore so that doesnt matter anyway

Well I enjoy the game, flaws and all. Anyone who isnt a child knows you cant have 10 years of refinement in a game thats a month old. The ones who complain and nitpick every little detail are the personality types whom are never happy with anything anyway. Most of us are thankful the kids are leaving so the adults can play now without the silly whining. ZOE didnt put this game out with the intent on failing or to screw over customers. Everyone wants everything fixed all at once, right this second, all while wanting personal responses and personal attention, which is not going to happen. Everyone, to include myself, is guilty of acting at least a little bit entitled. If I become disgruntled with the game or with ZOE, it'll be after 6 months and not after the first month. Unhappy people will never be satisfied, no matter what they do in real life or what game they play, they willl always complain that "everything is too hard" or "it's not good enough".

For me, I'll do my own thing and enjoy my game with no regard to what other people think. Only a month in, it's way too early to make a judgment call.

dolanjamieb16_ESO wrote: »

OP and the rest on the band wagon should avoid big MMO releases at launch because your just too young to understand how there are always going to be teething problems

Surely, when you'll compare expression quality of those "too young" people and yourself, you will find in your adult mind, that your age remark assault and poor grammar create a really compelling argument to support your deep thoughts.

to everyone who leaves the game send your stuff and Gold to @Grischu65 so it will be used and honored.

90% ill unsub, why?

1. Forced to quest my way tru Veteran ranks, there should be viable option, there isnt one
2.Pvp is unbalanced as hell with campaign system, every campaign is steamrolled by 1 faction
3. My main reason: i cant play my char as i want to, because 1 of my weapon bars need to be fighters guild, i wanted 1h and shield and 2 handed bars, but NOPE! i need to build antivampire char if i want to pvp
4. My personal opinion is that ZOS dont care about game balance, for exemple i didnt find any news from ZOS what will they do to stop bash exploit( getting hit by 3 attacks in 1 sec isnt realistic combat system they are sooooo proud of)
5. Public dungeons are ruined by bots- this would never make me even consider leaving game if other points werent there, now its just top of mountain

One hilarious comment that was on these forums the other day was "this game should never have been released with ANY!!! bugs"

Id love to hear of an MMO without bugs because i want to play that game.

The problem people have is one mans game breaker is another mans minor bug anything gamebreaking "should" mean that we had no level 50 players because no one can get past said bug in order to reach end game

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

rydberg.patrikb16_ESO wrote: »

Syndiaan wrote: »

How about if you don't like the game you just unsubscribe and leave instead of crying on the forums about it? Go create a perfect MMO since you know everything.

It seems to me that the crying comes from the people like you. Hasn't it ever occured to you that perhaps ZeniMax would be interested to know the reasons people abandon the game? Maybe they could use this information to improve the game.

The forums are not the proper place to give this supposed feedback. Thats why these kind of threads are not allowed. Once the mods wake up it'll be locked.

"not allowed" - link me that rule, if there is such...
"Once the mods wake up"- LoL. Yeah, maybe in few months when the servers will be empty and it will be too late.

Go be a hero elsewhere.

After they have written their own story why unsubscribing.

Becasue contrary to fanboys saying, some people here don't want the "attention" but they don't to pay for clearly unfinished product.

Chryos wrote: »

laced wrote: »

I care about this game, which is why I will stick through my 3 month subscription. But....I WILL NOT accept the EU servers being in the middle of a *** desert in Texas for 3 months. If they are not moved to the proper place (Frankfurt, DE) by the end of 3 months, I am gone. I have 160 ms latency during non prime time to TX, and over 400 during peak times. During prime time AND non prime time to Frankfurt, DE I have 14-25 ms lag. This isn't rocket science.

This seems like a fair complaint. If I were in Europe I'd feel the same way. I would think their intent would be to move this overseas and the reason it's in the US is so testing can continue until things are a little more smoothed out. I guess we will have to see or ask for an official response, to which Euro players should be entitled to recieve.

They told everyone far in advance the EU server would start out in the US and end up in the EU at a later date.

For everyone quitting have you read this?

In recognition of this experience and to show our gratitude to everyone who supported the launch, we are giving an additional five days of included game time to every ESO player who set up an active account prior to 8pm EDT Thursday May 1st and who are currently enjoying their 30 days of included game time.

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/04/30/the-road-ahead---may-1st?ref=home

I have numerous complaints about the game but the reason I will not play more is that VR is extremely boring for me, not because it's slow (that's a plus in my book) but because there is no further character development in it.

Beyond that many things pushed me towards quitting from the start like - Duping which happens even now, multi-box teleporting bots, attribute soft caps, too much linearity, skill unresponsiveness etc.

The game, as beautiful as it is, is just not for me. Not so much because of bugs (I know these will be fixed eventually) but mostly because of design decisions.