Today me and wifey got the chance to try Oakensoul Ring out in cp cyrodiil on GH on our magdk's once we got the last lead. It pushes the damage pretty far with a good allround damage setup in general, but the lack of a defensive backbar and the nerf to the sustain of dk's is a clear disadvantage that got us melted even faster than before. A defensive set for the other 5 piece set helps living a tad bit long, but not chance getting out of defense if you don't have reliable movement speed (so just like before). That was a pointless attempt. It pretty much buffs up glass cannon builds to be a little less squishy but with way more punch. Also helps bombers pull their ult even faster and is definitely more fitting on classes like nb's when not running with a group. Sure not many people got it yet but they get more each day. Same goes for the other mythics.

Its far from being OP. It just raises the gap a little of all non-bombers to not feel completely useless compared to their aoe oneshot bomber counterparts and gets rid of the constant rebuffing hassle at the valuable cost of survivability. Also with a good enough damage setup to burst down those pesky tower humpers quickly before they can start their ring around the rosie game. Which is a big plus. I guess tower humpers will adjust with even more movement speed to make that up. Time will tell.

I'm curious what kinds of builds people will come with it though, since it got potential to make things more fun in PvP.

There is only one thing in PvP that really is OP. And that is unkillable ball groups. Thats what is in real need of a nerf.

Durham wrote: »

Should not be allowed in PVP problem solved! No need for the nerf.

After trying the mythic myself, I see this whole debate from a different point of view. So many people here calling for a nerf out of pure speculation. People "fear" it might be OP. People "think" it busts balance even more. And call for a nerf straight away just because they see an item packed with buffs. On other side shutting down completely to what the actual downside turn out to be in the gameplay. Just like it was in the past with the proc sets.

Shortly after Greymoor got released, we had a nicely well-rounded build diversity everywhere. Even in PvE. You could wear your proc sets with pure stat boosting sets still being at the very top. Yet, people couldn't get over proc sets somehow carrying their users because it was 1 or more potential free skills that fire automatically, which those who were wearing stat boost sets simply weren't able to because no proc that fired as a little extra. In the end, the damage you do with procs or the damage you do with boosted stats turned out to be with stat stacking overperforming regardless how OP proc sets looked like at first impression. ZOS nerfed proc sets into the ground and made literally more than half of the sets useless again, because people speculated too much, overexegarated and called for unnessessary nerfs for everything.

And now look at the No CP campaigns. They are just a shadow of their former self. The same 4-5 sets literally everyone is wearing. The same builds everyone uses. 0 diversity, boring to no end. And still no balance whatsoever. With the campaign being dead and losing more and more players each day. ZOS actually cared for about its PvPers, just that they were listening to those who had clearly no idea what they were talking about in the first place. Straight out nerf callers with reasons pulled from thin air. 10k dizzy swings and 14k executes on a 40k resist player happened but the 24 x 1k syvarras scale procs deserved the nerf. Its laughable.

People must stop with their nerf callings already. How many of you who want so this nerfed or "removed from PvP" here even got the ring and tried it? Whats your evidence in actually proofing this is OP? Because it "sounds" like it? I mean come on.

We don't need any more nerfs to sets. We need things get buffed back to become viable again if at all. And I will say it again: Unkillable ball groups are everyones real problem in Cyrodiil besides those who are running with one themselves. 9 out of 10 deaths will occure due to bombs! Not due to magdk's, nb's, or sorcs in open world. Calling for a nerf for a mythic with heavy downsides without proper longterm testing on the live servers but based on pure speculation is absolutely ridiculous.