I would also love to dye our whole mount and effects, not just armor

But even simply dying their armor would be step in right direction - it would allow us to match the mount's accessories with armor of our character. I would spend lot of time at outfit station again

They could even separate this - let everyone dye mount's armor, and let subscribers dye mount's body and effects

Ringing_Nirnroot wrote: »

It would be awesome if we had the option to dye our mount’s armor in the future

That would be cool!

Besides that, I would also love it if we could remove the horsefeeding visual upgrades from mounts. As those make some mounts look really bad.

God please no .... The players and their mounts are already full of colors.

BrownChicken wrote: »

God please no .... The players and their mounts are already full of colors.

Not all of us have the same taste

I've been bringing this up for years. Doubt it will happen; but nice if it did.

Lugaldu wrote: »

Ringing_Nirnroot wrote: »

Not all of us have the same taste

Of course, everyone has a different taste and it is good that way.

But I would like to ask it as a serious question: Does anyone really find it beautiful or aesthetic to run around in pink armor? Or do you just do it to annoy the other players or just because you can do it?

There’s people who like bright colors etc, I doubt majority of them dye their costume like that to annoy people. They just want to look unique i guess, idk. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be allowed to dye mounts just because those people have a taste for bright stuff it won’t affect me tbh
Edit: there’s nothing wrong with liking pink/ bright colors

Versispellis wrote: »

Lugaldu wrote: »

Ringing_Nirnroot wrote: »

Not all of us have the same taste

Of course, everyone has a different taste and it is good that way.

But I would like to ask it as a serious question: Does anyone really find it beautiful or aesthetic to run around in pink armor? Or do you just do it to annoy the other players or just because you can do it?

Okay, I do have a question in response to your question: what's wrong with pink?

More to the point: why that color, or any specific color?

Lugaldu wrote: »

Ringing_Nirnroot wrote: »

Not all of us have the same taste

Of course, everyone has a different taste and it is good that way.

But I would like to ask it as a serious question: Does anyone really find it beautiful or aesthetic to run around in pink armor? Or do you just do it to annoy the other players or just because you can do it?

Why pink?

Some people do like bright and feminine colors. There's nothing wrong with that, and those colors aren't less realistic because they're bright and feminine. I think what you're responding to is uh, I guess the fact that good design and a sense of color composition are not a native understanding.

Mind you, I'd dye everything black. But that's me, not other people.

Same here xD everything black on majority of my characters

Lugaldu wrote: »

But I would like to ask it as a serious question: Does anyone really find it beautiful or aesthetic to run around in pink armor? Or do you just do it to annoy the other players or just because you can do it?

Lugaldu wrote: »

I already see pink Guars everywhere, equipped with orange gear and a rider in shiny purple armor on them ... sounds great.

I already see pink outfits, equipped with orange weapons and a hat in shiny purple. I agree, without sarcasm, it does sound great as well to be able to for our mounts to match our characters as we see fit.

I don't see the problem here, regardless of "why" players choose to do it. Let them have fun. The point of a game and adds more variety, yes? If changing the color of something is a problem, then maybe the color isn't the actual problem. Js.

Every time I create an outfit for my characters, choose a mount for them or furnish a house, I always ask myself - what would a single part look like? Does it look friendly to the setting? I understand that not all players care about setting and lore. But honestly, I would like the function to disable outfits. I fell in love with the world of scrolls "ordinary" and "mundane" and sometimes I really feel uncomfortable with the abundance of too artistic outfits and bright mounts. Excuse me ...

Versispellis wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Ringing_Nirnroot wrote: »

It would be awesome if we had the option to dye our mount’s armor in the future

That would be cool!

Besides that, I would also love it if we could remove the horsefeeding visual upgrades from mounts. As those make some mounts look really bad.

You can! Options --> Gameplay --> Hide mount stamina, etc.

Omg, never knew this! Thank you very much!

When I turn them all off, my character changes size/appearance(height and hips mostly), is this bugged somehow?

Lugaldu wrote: »

Versispellis wrote: »

Okay, I do have a question in response to your question: what's wrong with pink?
Some people do like bright and feminine colors. There's nothing wrong with that, and those colors aren't less realistic because they're bright and feminine.

Well, I'm not saying anything against someone liking pink (by the way, I also color everything black) and we are also in a fantasy environment. But in this fantasy environment, almost everything else has a subtle and natural color scheme and is often based on real cultures or cultures that once existed. We don't find any medieval-looking stone buildings whose walls are painted bright purple. The armor is made of leather, wood, bone, scales and metal and in the past these materials could only be colored to a certain degree. I don't like armor that looks like it is part of the fairground - For me at least, it's immersion destroying. Another thing is robes and dresses, dyeing fabrics in bright colors is much more realistic than dyeing a cuirass.

Edit: I also do not consider e.g. red and purple as "feminine" colors. Today it is maybe seen rather "feminine", but in ealier times purple was the color of the kings, made from precious purple snails.

Weeeeeeeeeell. Okay, I get the essence of what you're saying. For the most part the color schemes they have chosen for their NPCs and dwellings are rather subdued. And yes, tis well true, that coloring metal was (still is) a tricky thing to do. (I like to color my metal metal colors, because that's the way I like it looking). I have no qualms with bright dyes on fabric and leather, though. I think it's a misconception that things in the far flung history were always neutrally colored. Different cultures had varying degrees of ostentatiousness with color and access to different kinds of dyes. But! We seem to agree about fabrics, and I think our overall aesthetic is probably about the same.

You know, I actually did consider going back to edit my post and make a qualifying statement about referring to pink as a "feminine" color. I agree the whole thing about color gender is bunk. It's a very ethnocentric way to look at things, and even in very "Western" cultures it's subject to change. (Pink used to be a masculine color!) It was a shorthand I used to address the fact that some people dismiss some colors as being too "girly," as if that's inherently a wrong thing.

I think actually we agree about stuff. 👍 I think our only difference is that I'm not as bothered by the (sometimes questionable) choices other people make. I figure a breakdown of aesthetic cohesion is inevitable when you're playing an MMO.

Mount armor dye, I WISH! Sometimes X mount is perfect for my transmog, at least the critter is, but the mount armor? Not so much. Ugh.

Versispellis wrote: »

I think it's a misconception that things in the far flung history were always neutrally colored.

Right! Take, for example, ancient Greek statues - they weren't shiny white, but painted in bright colors (blue, red, brown, black colors especially).

Versispellis wrote: »

I think actually we agree about stuff. 👍 I think our only difference is that I'm not as bothered by the (sometimes questionable) choices other people make. I figure a breakdown of aesthetic cohesion is inevitable when you're playing an MMO.

Agree.

You have to let people do their thing the way they like it as long as it is about harmless things, and try not to be bothered by certain things that you would do differently yourself. For the aforementioned reasons, as far as the dyeability of materials is concerned, I would still be in favor of more realistic options / a limitation in colors. A pink horse with a pink saddle simply fits, for my taste, more into a Barbie world than into Tamriel. Maybe lately I've seen just too much designs like this in a concentrated form...

I appreciate the fixed anatomy of the mounts. As with toons, unless special skins are earned/purchased, their bodies have reason to remain their natural colors (or be altered within reason, e.g. vampirism).

However, I don't see why we shouldn't be able to dye their gear like we dye rider gear. Saddle, bags, bridle, cuffs are not an anatomical component of most mounts

I'd love to color-coord mount gear with their riders'– even if it is account-wide, as with costumes.
That would be a step in the right direction.