Armory Station/NPC in Cyrodiil

DestroyerPewnack · November 2021

Can we have this added in each alliance's base? I have to port out and back in every time I want to play a different spec. You have a great system in place (would be better with mundus choice added,) but I don't understand why you're not using it to its true potential.

atherusmora · November 2021

Agreed. I understand not being able to use AA in the field during dungeons, and trials, but there is a banker, merchants and even crafting stations at Alliance bases. Seems very strange not to have included an armory station at alliance bases as well. I’ve also longed for them to considered including Transmute stations at the bases as well.

Edited to add: ZOS never did say exactly why Mundus stones were excluded from Armory, but they did clown Nefas’ reasoning with a very shallow salesman like response, “ In the absence of information people will default to their own conclusions.” R.L. Again, no further clarity about the decision has been given to the player base. The fact that Nefas’ conclusions were specifically called out and trashed, makes me feel the opposite is true. So, crown store sales seems like the most plausible reason imo.

DestroyerPewnack · November 2021

To be fair to zos (a phrase I never use,) it's not like mundus sales are what's carrying the game financially. Most players are in guilds with guild halls that have them there already, so there's no point in buying them for most.

Whatever the reason may be, I hope they add mundus choice one day, and add the station/NPC in Cyrodiil. Kind of ridiculous to force people to travel out and back in. And if it's prime time, you can't even risk going out, so you're stuck with the spec you're playing (talking about attributes and choice of curse,) even though the game now has a system for switching it.

fizl101 · November 2021

Re. the mundus in armory, I did ask the question and this was the answer in ESO live https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1169418904?t=00h41m54s

(TL:DR) it didn't fit in the time scales to get mundus in armory into update 32, they have some challenges, definitely talking about it but no promises

I agree with the OP that it would be great to have an armory in each of the cyrodiil bases. It also makes sense for me to have one in each of the trial lobbies where they have the crafting stations etc

Remathilis · November 2021

I'm very curious about why armory stations aren't in the hub cities as well. I can go to the major city in each zone to craft, change my outfit, bank or sell stuff, but I must port to my home or use an assistant to use the armory. Further, the armory is huge compared to the other stations making it a pain to fit in small or apartment housing.

Anyway armory stations should be in major towns and alliance bases. If you can change your outfit there, you can change your load out.

Elsonso · November 2021

Remathilis wrote: »

Anyway armory stations should be in major towns and alliance bases. If you can change your outfit there, you can change your load out.

Well, they do offer an assistant in the Crown Store...

virtus753 · November 2021

atherusmora wrote: »

Agreed. I understand not being able to use AA in the field during dungeons, and trials.

You can use him in dungeons on both difficulties and in normal arenas and trials. The official news post stating otherwise has been contradicted by the devs and by the current functionality of the assistant in game.

Remathilis · November 2021

Elsonso wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Anyway armory stations should be in major towns and alliance bases. If you can change your outfit there, you can change your load out.

Well, they do offer an assistant in the Crown Store...

Yup. They offer a banker and merchant too. Guess we can remove those from all the cities and bases as well.

Assistants should be for in the field, away from towns.

Elsonso · November 2021

Remathilis wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Anyway armory stations should be in major towns and alliance bases. If you can change your outfit there, you can change your load out.

Well, they do offer an assistant in the Crown Store...

Yup. They offer a banker and merchant too. Guess we can remove those from all the cities and bases as well.

They deliberately did not put armory stations in the game world. They are apparently thinking on the idea of putting them in Alliance bases, but no action has been taken. It makes me wonder how they would have changed the game if the bank and merchant assistants were part of the game at launch.

These things, monetized or not, change how the game is designed and where they put development priority.

Succuby · November 2021

You are may be right, but it harms housing.

As example you make some base in house for all this, buy mundus and etc. If it will be all free you will not need do all that. So some running needed they add to the game.

Armory is OP function by itself, it will be cool if it will be added in each aly near as example bank or any where else, but add it in each town is to big add i think.

Armory is some thing you own it is more logickal it be in houses of players.

May be on cyridil base too - but that is all. It is free and you need to change gear in pvp locatiion, so may be it will be fine change. That is ALL i think.

Vevvev · November 2021

Armory doesn't save your mundus stone as apart of it's functionality, Succuby.

And I would love to have the armory station in Cyrodiil and Imperial City. Having to wait in a queue during major events is going to suck pretty badly.

atherusmora · November 2021

virtus753 wrote: »

atherusmora wrote: »

Agreed. I understand not being able to use AA in the field during dungeons, and trials.

You can use him in dungeons on both difficulties and in normal arenas and trials. The official news post stating otherwise has been contradicted by the devs and by the current functionality of the assistant in game.

Wait…really? Game changer!! Lol.

AlnilamE · November 2021

Yeah, they really should put stations in the alliance bases, both in Cyro and in IC. It would suck to queue up and then realize once you are in that you forgot to swap your build.

deleted221205-002626 · May 2022

Necroing this cuz its something I would like to see as well in the home bases. I came for a lag check after server upgrades and loving the performance now but am in my bikini power heals spec and queue is 85 or something.. leaving to change is not as option as ill never make it back in before bed.

Please put an armory station in the home bases!

SimonThesis · May 2022

I wish they would also put respec shrines at the gates in cyrodiil especially with how high the queue has gotten!

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo · May 2022

Elsonso wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Anyway armory stations should be in major towns and alliance bases. If you can change your outfit there, you can change your load out.

Well, they do offer an assistant in the Crown Store...

'no' *show the door* (joking, but the assistant price is also a joke)

FeedbackOnly · May 2022

I think this a fair request. It's a small quality life for pvp. PvP has also being waiting long time for addition content.

This is small addition that would benefit a l or of people coming into pvp areas

Mayrael · May 2022

I think I know why they don't want to implement it. We could do the same as with the banker in IC and the crafting stations. You can walk into IC, do what you need to do and walk out of IC going back to the same place without having to buy the assistant.

But basically you can do the same thing currently with 1 just an extra step when it comes to armories.
1. Teleport to the house of a friend/guildmate (must be another player - explained in point 3) in which there is the armory station/assistant.
2. You change the build and enter IC.
3. You leave IC. Due to the fact that your last location was your friend's house you will be moved to the place from where you entered the friend's house so in your orginal position.

As you can see there is 1 extra step compared to if there was an armory station/assistant in IC or Cyrodiil, so no big deal in my opinion.

vsrs_au · May 2022

Remathilis wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Anyway armory stations should be in major towns and alliance bases. If you can change your outfit there, you can change your load out.

Well, they do offer an assistant in the Crown Store...

Yup. They offer a banker and merchant too. Guess we can remove those from all the cities and bases as well.

Assistants should be for in the field, away from towns.

I thought the assistants were aimed at guilds, not individual players, mainly because of the price. They're 5,000 crowns each, which I think a lot of players would hesitate to pay.

fizl101 · May 2022

vsrs_au wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Anyway armory stations should be in major towns and alliance bases. If you can change your outfit there, you can change your load out.

Well, they do offer an assistant in the Crown Store...

Yup. They offer a banker and merchant too. Guess we can remove those from all the cities and bases as well.

Assistants should be for in the field, away from towns.

I thought the assistants were aimed at guilds, not individual players, mainly because of the price. They're 5,000 crowns each, which I think a lot of players would hesitate to pay.

The assistants are popular with alot of players for the convenience of access while out and about. If I needed to travel somewhere to use it, i would go to a city rather than the guild house as I could access the guild bank and guild store as well for example. The armory assistant wouldn't be needed for a guild house, as you could place the free armory station

Marginis · May 2022

Honestly, this is a great idea. I understand why assistants are not allowed in PVP, but maybe just allowing them in the intro area would help this, even if the armory station isn't added outright.

jaws343 · May 2022

The biggest problem, and I brought this up when the system was first announced, is that when you are queued for PVP, whether it is Imperial City, Cyrodil, or BGs, you have very little time to use the assistant to swap gear to PVP.

So, you are forced to either rush it before the queue goes away, or you are forced to run your PVP set up in PVE while you wait for the queue.

If the whole point of the armory system is to allow for better and smoother transitions from different types of content, not having a station in Cyrodil bases, or Imperial City bases, or not being allowed to use assistants during the wait time before a BG match starts, is a flaw.

None of those things will have any impact on gameplay. You should be able to do PVE things in PVE gear and be queue for BGs. Then when the BG queue pops and you teleport in, as long as the match hasn't started yet you should be able to pull out your assistant or banker or even merchant if you want, and swap your gear to a PVP setup. Once the match starts, it no longer works until you leave the BG instance.

Same for Cyrodil. PVE setup during the queue. Arrive at the base and go to the station to swap. Go out and PVP for a few hours on a group oriented setup, and then decide to go solo, go back to base and swap.

Wolfpaw · May 2022

SimonThesis wrote: »

I wish they would also put respec shrines at the gates in cyrodiil especially with how high the queue has gotten!

This would help a lot.

ZOS_GregoryV · May 2022

Greetings all,

After review, we have decided to move this thread to a more appropriate PVP subsection.

Thank you for your understanding,
-Greg-

Azrael001 · May 2022

I fully agree with this; especially with pop-lock being a thing, we can't go swap builds without sitting in a 2+ hour queue to get back.

acastanza_ESO · May 2022

I also strongly support this idea. As others have already pointed out the Alliance bases already contain the major creature comforts (bank/merchant/crafting stations) having an Armory Station in a base in a War zone makes perfect sense.

Jamie_Aubrey · May 2022

Where do I find this outside of PVP

acastanza_ESO · May 2022

Jamie_Aubrey wrote: »

Where do I find this outside of PVP

The Armory Station is a free item in the crown store, once you get it you can put it in any house you own. You can also use any armory station placed in other players housing that you have access to.

Qrähe · May 2022

Would be great to add to bases, hate queing in and realizing I have daily writ gear and morphs.

KiltMaster · May 2022

Nothing's worse than finally getting through the queue only to realize you accidentally have your pve setup on *facepalm*

It could also be good if people want to change into a solo build or their group build depending if their friends are online or not.