Something like a "bad sport" system should be simple enough to implement. You queue as a tank but have absolutely no way to taunt enemies (no skill points put on inner fire or destructive touch)? Bad sport. Get 10 Bad sport queues through activity finder without being full premade team and you will forever be placed in queues with other bad sports.
Problem solved!
Something like a "bad sport" system should be simple enough to implement. You queue as a tank but have absolutely no way to taunt enemies (no skill points put on inner fire or destructive touch)? Bad sport. Get 10 Bad sport queues through activity finder without being full premade team and you will forever be placed in queues with other bad sports.
Problem solved!
Something like a "bad sport" system should be simple enough to implement. You queue as a tank but have absolutely no way to taunt enemies (no skill points put on inner fire or destructive touch)? Bad sport. Get 10 Bad sport queues through activity finder without being full premade team and you will forever be placed in queues with other bad sports.
Problem solved!
neferpitou73 wrote: »Again, I will take complaints about fake tanks seriously when the average DPS can do more than 20k in a dungeon. Until then if some uber DPS wants to queue up and make the dungeon go faster I have no issues.
I think a better solution to this would be to actually teach people how to DPS ingame instead of having everyone rely on youtube videos
chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »Something like a "bad sport" system should be simple enough to implement. You queue as a tank but have absolutely no way to taunt enemies (no skill points put on inner fire or destructive touch)? Bad sport. Get 10 Bad sport queues through activity finder without being full premade team and you will forever be placed in queues with other bad sports.
Problem solved!
It'd likely be a bit more complicated than that due to sets such as Tormentor and due to players being aware of the implementation and adjusting.
neferpitou73 wrote: »Again, I will take complaints about fake tanks seriously when the average DPS can do more than 20k in a dungeon. Until then if some uber DPS wants to queue up and make the dungeon go faster I have no issues.
I think a better solution to this would be to actually teach people how to DPS ingame instead of having everyone rely on youtube videos
I think that your assumption that the fake tanks are uber DPS is the wrong one, especially considering you assert that the average DPS can't do more than 20K in the preceding statement. The solution is to teach people how to DPS rather than expect people not to do something that is obviously subverting the system? You forget that many of these people don't even necessarily care about doing more than 20k DPS, or have any interest in listening to some stranger's advice on the DPS role. The last time I suggested that I could help someone with their build, their response was '[snip] you, this is MY build.'. What I and many other people advocate for is players honoring the roles they sign up for, which is totally reasonable. What you are advocating for is a solution for casual DPS under the false assumption that the only reason they aren't doing more damage is that ZOS hasn't taught them how. Don't worry, the people that want to do good DPS are going to find a way to do it. Casuals make up like 70% of the playerbase.
Something like a "bad sport" system should be simple enough to implement. You queue as a tank but have absolutely no way to taunt enemies (no skill points put on inner fire or destructive touch)? Bad sport. Get 10 Bad sport queues through activity finder without being full premade team and you will forever be placed in queues with other bad sports.
Problem solved!
Something like a "bad sport" system should be simple enough to implement. You queue as a tank but have absolutely no way to taunt enemies (no skill points put on inner fire or destructive touch)? Bad sport. Get 10 Bad sport queues through activity finder without being full premade team and you will forever be placed in queues with other bad sports.
Problem solved!
MovesLikeJaguar wrote: »Look, wait in line like everyone else. There are bad dps in the game that fake healer and tank, and there are top end dps in the game that fake healer and tank, and then some of both dont.
Here's a thought: for everyone that is ok with fake healers and tanks, ZoS could put a checkmark button in the party finder that allows you to queue as a fake tank or healer, and only be picked up for parties that have that checked. If you think the majority of people dont mind a fake tank or healer, then this would speed up queue times for everyone, and everyone that doesn't want that can continue with their lives. Of course they'd need to have moderation in terms of cracking down on people that fake tank the old way if they introduced this, allowing for people to get reported and temporarily banned for fake tanking without using the new system. But I mean I think this would be the only way that would have any impact on it.
adamsmith42 wrote: »I don't mind when a DPS who can solo the place runs as tank/heals (especially since those players usually at least slot a taunt or heal in case things go badly), but I would GLADLY give up those runs to be free of all the weak DW/bow nightblades who ruin the experience for everyone else because they can't be bothered to wait a few minutes in the queue.