EnKor wrote: »

I got for exemple this trial achivment in one char and its unlock in all chars of this account:

Or for exemple this Dungeon in other char, And this one show in all chars too...

But many others achivments are not unlocked in all chars. Like for exemple: vMaelstrom Arena
Say i never did it in this char (Works fine in the one who have real made it):

but i have completed

So, why some achivments are unlock in all chars... but others dont? And what achivmentes are supose to unlock one chars? I was lost with AwA... but now, im even worse! Now i realy don't understand anything

The Maelstrom one grants a skill point. That's why it's character-specific.

They basically made almost everything shared. Public dungeon group events and maelstrom were character specific because they are associated with a skill point, and are probably the only traceable record that a particular character has earned that point. Given that they've had to go back and audit/correct skill point totals a few times, I think they wanted to maintain that ability.

EnKor wrote: »

sarahthes wrote: »

The Maelstrom one grants a skill point. That's why it's character-specific.

But boss's+delves don't give any... why they are shared!? nvm... i will never understand it

Group Bosses in Public Dungeons grant a skill point.

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

If an achievement has little outline of a head next to it, it is an individual character achievement. If it does not have little outline of a head next to it, it is an account achievement. My guess is that being a solo arena, Maelstrom was deemed closely tied to individual character and achievement left that way.

it is definitely because of the skill point, because they did not do the same thing for the other solo arena (vateshran hollows)

The Crown Store may give you one indication as to why some things are account-wide and others are character-based.

I've been around here from the start but I'm old so my memory isn't what it used to be

Was there this much player push back about something being account-wide when dyes were made account wide? Champion points?

If there was I just don't remember it, so I'm really struggling to understand why titles being account wide is cause for so many threads and so much consternation.

Wasn't account-wide CPs THE biggie?

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

I've been around here from the start but I'm old so my memory isn't what it used to be

Was there this much player push back about something being account-wide when dyes were made account wide? Champion points?

If there was I just don't remember it, so I'm really struggling to understand why titles being account wide is cause for so many threads and so much consternation.

Wasn't account-wide CPs THE biggie?

as far as im aware dyes have always been acct wide, and i dont think there was even any pushback on that lol

i think there was a little bit of pushback on the cp2.0, but certainly not nearly as much as AWA

On CP 2.0 a bit yes, but that was because it was a change. The big dal was the account-wide nature of CPs and all of us afflicted by altitits (18 characters and proud of it! ) loved that to bits as I recall.

Iselin wrote: »

I've been around here from the start but I'm old so my memory isn't what it used to be

Was there this much player push back about something being account-wide when dyes were made account wide? Champion points?

If there was I just don't remember it, so I'm really struggling to understand why titles being account wide is cause for so many threads and so much consternation.

Wasn't account-wide CPs THE biggie?

Without a Robust Quest Log/Journal that shows what our characters have done, Achievements were pretty much the only way to track on a per-character basis what that character had accomplished.

Other games with Account Wide Achievements have this robust tracking so that you can figure that out.

ZoS implemented the AwA without adding in the equivalent tracking, so you either need to do it by yourself (on spreadsheets), or by using an add-on (but only if you captured the information before it was irrevocably lost when U33 hit).

The frustrations about the implementation of AwA is about FAAAAR more than just "titles"

tmbrinks wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

I've been around here from the start but I'm old so my memory isn't what it used to be

Was there this much player push back about something being account-wide when dyes were made account wide? Champion points?

If there was I just don't remember it, so I'm really struggling to understand why titles being account wide is cause for so many threads and so much consternation.

Wasn't account-wide CPs THE biggie?

Without a Robust Quest Log/Journal that shows what our characters have done, Achievements were pretty much the only way to track on a per-character basis what that character had accomplished.

Other games with Account Wide Achievements have this robust tracking so that you can figure that out.

ZoS implemented the AwA without adding in the equivalent tracking, so you either need to do it by yourself (on spreadsheets), or by using an add-on (but only if you captured the information before it was irrevocably lost when U33 hit).

The frustrations about the implementation of AwA is about FAAAAR more than just "titles"

Not forgetting the two-thirds of the playerbase on console who don't have access to add-ons, as well as those PC users who prefer not to use them.

Iselin wrote: »

I've been around here from the start but I'm old so my memory isn't what it used to be

Was there this much player push back about something being account-wide when dyes were made account wide? Champion points?

If there was I just don't remember it, so I'm really struggling to understand why titles being account wide is cause for so many threads and so much consternation.

Wasn't account-wide CPs THE biggie?

The links in my sig probably have all the reading you'd ever want on the topic if you're interested in why AwA was so disruptive.

Account Wide Titles and Account Wide Achievements are not the same thing, though they were implemented in the same patch. As a quick summary:

Account Wide Titles are an issue for some who care about "bragging rights" or for group content organizers who liked to use them as a way to "vet" experience. Shared titles were also frustrating to folks who did role play to the extend that they were strategic about which characters unlocked which titles, or for folks who enjoyed pursuing unlocking the titles individually for each characters.

Account Wide Achievements decimated character tracking for anyone who valued re-playing content on multiple characters in an organized way. This was not just role players, as some assume, but folks who enjoyed repeating content on different classes, be it obtaining difficult dungeon achievements multiple times or pursuing master angler more than once. The game now only tracks content ONCE, and if you want to do it again with a checklist you need to make a new account or resort to spreadsheets. Also there are areas of the game where NPCs react to you or quest options appear based on achievements, which ZOS didn't fix with the implementation, so immersion and replayability are also disrupted for folks who care about the story. There are also other issues, such as some XP lost that was available when the achievements were per character, and less interactions from the game world when you do something a second time with a character, which many enjoyed. Finally, because dates were merged in the implementation, many people lost memorable historical dates as they were wiped out by the oldest character to complete the achievement.

I think that dyes were made account wide when outfit stations and dying was introduced, but I'll admit I'm not 100% sure on that. I seem to remember dyes being character specific at one point, because I remember being annoyed that you couldn't simultaneously be a werewolf or a vampire but a dye was attached to each achievement, therefore limiting your character to only one. It was early in the game when it was hard to get a vampire bite and I had no idea that it could be cured.