Should you be able to pack up a forward camp?

gariondavey · April 2022

Yes (why?)

Nemeliom wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

@Nemeliom it seems you are forgetting the 5 min spawn timer on camps.

"20k AP isn't what it once was"

What? Lol. There are fewer people in cyro now due to the population cap decreasing over and over again. I remember fights with hundreds of people involved on each side. They resulted in more AP than ones now with 50 a side or whatever.

You are right 🤔
I forgot about the spawn timer.

Does that change your opinion at all then?

TechMaybeHic · April 2022

No (why?)

gariondavey wrote: »

@Nemeliom it seems you are forgetting the 5 min spawn timer on camps.

"20k AP isn't what it once was"

What? Lol. There are fewer people in cyro now due to the population cap decreasing over and over again. I remember fights with hundreds of people involved on each side. They resulted in more AP than ones now with 50 a side or whatever.

Maybe it wasn't then either; but it's near nothing for sure for me now.

Kartalin · April 2022

No (why?)

I wouldn't mind if they were removed from the game again. Camps strongly favor the side with more numbers, I feel like it should take more than just numbers to win a fight.

gariondavey wrote: »

@Nemeliom it seems you are forgetting the 5 min spawn timer on camps.

"20k AP isn't what it once was"

What? Lol. There are fewer people in cyro now due to the population cap decreasing over and over again. I remember fights with hundreds of people involved on each side. They resulted in more AP than ones now with 50 a side or whatever.

I guess it depends on the numbers you run with and which side you're on. On our worst days in Ravenwatch we're still making 50k AP/hour, double that if we have low pop bonus since DC tends to have less people than the other factions.

DrSlaughtr · April 2022

No (why?)

20k isn't very much imo. You spread the responsibility out. Don't put them down if you are clearly rolling through the enemies. Etc.

NordSwordnBoard · April 2022

No (why?)

rbfrgsp wrote: »

You really think they would be able to make it so you could pack the thing away while other players simultaneously spawn there without one (or all) of you getting stuck in some kind of animation loop limbo?

Forward camps should be significantly cheaper, but players should also be less stingy. I've seen people moan about the costs of them then you watch their streams and they're sitting on 67mn of unspent AP. What are you saving up for? Are you building a treefort out of nothing but decoy elder scrolls in your house?

This - what happens to any dead trying to respawn at the camp while you try to pack it up? This sort of thing can happen already, where half the group loads in before the other half when a keep flags around the time of the port attempt. People could troll too, by putting a camp down then packing it over and over so people just fail trying to respawn there.

DrSlaughtr · April 2022

No (why?)

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

rbfrgsp wrote: »

You really think they would be able to make it so you could pack the thing away while other players simultaneously spawn there without one (or all) of you getting stuck in some kind of animation loop limbo?

Forward camps should be significantly cheaper, but players should also be less stingy. I've seen people moan about the costs of them then you watch their streams and they're sitting on 67mn of unspent AP. What are you saving up for? Are you building a treefort out of nothing but decoy elder scrolls in your house?

This - what happens to any dead trying to respawn at the camp while you try to pack it up? This sort of thing can happen already, where half the group loads in before the other half when a keep flags around the time of the port attempt. People could troll too, by putting a camp down then packing it over and over so people just fail trying to respawn there.

Yup. Your buddy on your other alliance could continually drop and pick up a camp blocking anyone else from putting one down. Never under estimate the NEFARIOUS strats of trolls!