I hope you kept a good database of what the game was prior the AWA patch :(

Lauranae · March 2022

As you can see, since that patch, the game is broken. Its not a bug or bugs problem, actually its the full playabiity of what was once our game.

Yes we all agreed on the EULA and we know that the game is subject to change and transformation, but to this point, of unplayability, certainly not.

While we are a large portion having those problems, you took the risk today to manipulate the database, BEFORE fixing the lag issues. I fear that actually you are as lost as us on what is happening. Though us more than you as there is no transparency.

I do hope you can accept you make an error with all the AWA changes who contributed largely in all the problem on live and take the decision to go back to what was the game.

If you really want this change, go back to the job on it, take the time you need, make it fully good for launch and not the copy of this bad version we just have to endure. I can imagine how much coding and cross coding exist in those achievements. I think they were the basement of the game.

As for the PTS stop making a joke of it. Actually -and you are not alone in the gaming professionnels - you should be concerned by the alerts you receive from players when they test. If you dont trust the players, create a special team (i dont say streamers) with all levels of players, from new to old, bad to good, with lambda pc/mac or console. May be you will this time beleive them if they alert you.

We all play differently, and we all do things on the game that you would not imagine. Sometimes i think we know YOUR game better than you.

So please, fix it for good

Thank you

Arunei · March 2022

If you're asking them to revert back to pre-U33, they won't. Rolling back the game that far would undo all progress that everyone has made since the update. Any characters that were made would be deleted, anything earned, gained, or farmed would be lost (things like gold, CP, and achievements), purchases from the CS would be reversed, anyone who got Crown Crates would lose those items, literally everything that was done or obtained after U33 would be lost.

There's just too much data that would be lost if they reverted things now. Not that I think everything is fine, they really should have delayed AwA to work out all the bigger issues and make something that suited everything. But unfortunately, at this point it's too late for them to do any rollbacks.

MasterSpatula · March 2022

Unfortunately, you can't shove the...ummm..... toothpaste back into the... uhhhh.... tube.

Cadbury · March 2022

PvP_Exploiter · March 2022

What's the issues with AWA?
Except from discouraging end-game PvErs to do trifectas multiple times there's no downsides.

Mathius_Mordred · March 2022

What is this about, I've not seen any issues personally, are people struggling with the game?

Kesstryl · March 2022

Lauranae wrote: »

As you can see, since that patch, the game is broken. Its not a bug or bugs problem, actually its the full playabiity of what was once our game.

Yes we all agreed on the EULA and we know that the game is subject to change and transformation, but to this point, of unplayability, certainly not.

While we are a large portion having those problems, you took the risk today to manipulate the database, BEFORE fixing the lag issues. I fear that actually you are as lost as us on what is happening. Though us more than you as there is no transparency.

I do hope you can accept you make an error with all the AWA changes who contributed largely in all the problem on live and take the decision to go back to what was the game.

If you really want this change, go back to the job on it, take the time you need, make it fully good for launch and not the copy of this bad version we just have to endure. I can imagine how much coding and cross coding exist in those achievements. I think they were the basement of the game.

As for the PTS stop making a joke of it. Actually -and you are not alone in the gaming professionnels - you should be concerned by the alerts you receive from players when they test. If you dont trust the players, create a special team (i dont say streamers) with all levels of players, from new to old, bad to good, with lambda pc/mac or console. May be you will this time beleive them if they alert you.

We all play differently, and we all do things on the game that you would not imagine. Sometimes i think we know YOUR game better than you.

So please, fix it for good

Thank you

I doubt they will read this here, you might want to post this up in the feedback threads at the top of the page for Update 33 or the zone map achievements one. Or on the PTS feedback thread which is where they really want the feedback but 94 pages of it were ignored.

peacenote · March 2022

PvP_Exploiter wrote: »

What's the issues with AWA?
Except from discouraging end-game PvErs to do trifectas multiple times there's no downsides.

There is a lot wrong with it for a lot of people:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/596970/pts-update-33-feedback-thread-for-account-wide-achievements/p1

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/600113/zone-guide-map-completion-with-account-wide-achievements/p1

That said, it is my understanding that only one of the PC megaservers is having performance issues, AND that ZOS confirmed that what's happening couldn't have been caught on PTS, so as much as I would have liked a better implementation of AwA there is no evidence that this or any other feature in u33 is causing the current performance problems directly. Otherwise we would see it on all servers.

It is ANOTHER problem but likely not a related problem.

Lauranae · March 2022

peacenote wrote: »

PvP_Exploiter wrote: »

What's the issues with AWA?
Except from discouraging end-game PvErs to do trifectas multiple times there's no downsides.

There is a lot wrong with it for a lot of people:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/596970/pts-update-33-feedback-thread-for-account-wide-achievements/p1

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/600113/zone-guide-map-completion-with-account-wide-achievements/p1

That said, it is my understanding that only one of the PC megaservers is having performance issues, AND that ZOS confirmed that what's happening couldn't have been caught on PTS, so as much as I would have liked a better implementation of AwA there is no evidence that this or any other feature in u33 is causing the current performance problems directly. Otherwise we would see it on all servers.

It is ANOTHER problem but likely not a related problem.

THank you for the info! its not easy to re-collect all the information from ZOS.

Lauranae · March 2022

Kesstryl wrote: »

Lauranae wrote: »

As you can see, since that patch, the game is broken. Its not a bug or bugs problem, actually its the full playabiity of what was once our game.

Yes we all agreed on the EULA and we know that the game is subject to change and transformation, but to this point, of unplayability, certainly not.

While we are a large portion having those problems, you took the risk today to manipulate the database, BEFORE fixing the lag issues. I fear that actually you are as lost as us on what is happening. Though us more than you as there is no transparency.

I do hope you can accept you make an error with all the AWA changes who contributed largely in all the problem on live and take the decision to go back to what was the game.

If you really want this change, go back to the job on it, take the time you need, make it fully good for launch and not the copy of this bad version we just have to endure. I can imagine how much coding and cross coding exist in those achievements. I think they were the basement of the game.

As for the PTS stop making a joke of it. Actually -and you are not alone in the gaming professionnels - you should be concerned by the alerts you receive from players when they test. If you dont trust the players, create a special team (i dont say streamers) with all levels of players, from new to old, bad to good, with lambda pc/mac or console. May be you will this time beleive them if they alert you.

We all play differently, and we all do things on the game that you would not imagine. Sometimes i think we know YOUR game better than you.

So please, fix it for good

Thank you

I doubt they will read this here, you might want to post this up in the feedback threads at the top of the page for Update 33 or the zone map achievements one. Or on the PTS feedback thread which is where they really want the feedback but 94 pages of it were ignored.

Well i said what i was feeling. It seems its too late now for a reversal. So i will just let it here. I was more sad than mad.

maximusrex45 · March 2022

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

What is this about, I've not seen any issues personally, are people struggling with the game?

PC NA has been having performance issues since update 33 went live and the people who are unhappy with AWA are blaming them for the issues, despite PC EU not having the same issues.

Honestly it seems pretty clear the issue is about server load, during daytime and primetime hours the game takes forever to login, load a character, and load zone changes, but late at night it seems normal.

Lumsdenml · March 2022

maximusrex45 wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

What is this about, I've not seen any issues personally, are people struggling with the game?

PC NA has been having performance issues since update 33 went live and the people who are unhappy with AWA are blaming them for the issues, despite PC EU not having the same issues.

Honestly it seems pretty clear the issue is about server load, during daytime and primetime hours the game takes forever to login, load a character, and load zone changes, but late at night it seems normal.

Agreed. It seems that people just don't like AWA and want to blame everything on that change, screaming the sky is falling and this is game ending...