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How would you rate ESO overall?
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Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Legendzerox wrote: »pavelvmub17_ESO wrote: »Potential ✭✭✭✭✭ out of ✭✭✭✭✭ for sure.
At it current stage ✭✭✭ out of ✭✭✭✭✭, mostly due to bugs & no global Auction House or Market and PvP faction / player balancing issues. imho.
ESO has a market. I love how the markets are created through large guilds. It creates a community and it creates thousands of markets. You clearly don't get its greatness.
Clearly a lot of us have that problem. We don't see greatness. We see spam sales in chat and no real way to sell anything.;)Edited by Blackwidow on April 26, 2014 12:17AM0 -
thilog✭✭✭Hmm.. Overall.. 8/10.
I do agree.. and you can see from my own posts, that the game has flaws. Many flaws. But, the map design, the graphics, the sounds, the overall scope of the game is almost flawless.
Personally I detest the 5 skill slots. But I can work with it.
I hate the linear gameplay. But I can understand why it's been done this way.
I hate lockpicking.. perfer the skyrim method.
I hate the money sinks.. Why shouldn't we have piles of gold.. it's a fantasy game afterall.
I hate the banking system and money sinks to expand inv and bank inv slots and so on. It costs 600000g to fully expand your bank. Add in fully upgraded horse, fully expanded packs.. they could have done it all in a fun and enjoyable way, instead of a frustrating and annoying, childish way. And the list goes on and on, it's pretty much listed in the original post.
But... What I hate, is purely from my own opinions. It could be, money sinks are great, the lock picking system is spot on and linear is the new cool..
So, my opinions aside, of flaws in the game. Overall, I would rate the game 8/10.
Pvp games should be dedicated. Pve games should be dedicated and they should never be mixed.
I'll try to reserve my opinion on pvp.. only to say that, the idea of killing other people, there's something very seriously wrong with that. If it's just for fun, like playing football.. then how about it's designed properly.. with rules.
Thus the two cannot and will not ever mix successfully. Wow failed.. they've all failed.. for one reason or another.. ganking, op builds/classes and so on.. and more than anything.. they've failed, because pvp is BORING. How many times can you run in circles doing the same thing before it's no longer fun.
Pve is where it's at. Has always been and always will be. Pve is the story, it's the continuity.. to the op, i'd say, once you've killed bal, you can quest anywhere.. so go and do all the quests, complete the entire game. Then come back in a few months and say, it was all boring.Edited by thilog on April 26, 2014 12:23AM0 -
Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
✭I hate the UI for the guild stores as well. I mean, it's probably awesome if you are looking to make a good buck and want to avoid the "undercutting" AH theme over in WoW. But I hate how I cant search by item name to see what something I have is being priced by others.0 -
bloodenragedb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭i dont think there should be a developers thread, it will be flooded with petulant children wanting them to nerf this, nerf that. if anything they should keep a loose connection to the player base when it comes to development, and do what they have been doing, they story, the game, its failed to disappoint me so far, i have no reason to believe they will disappoint us without our asinine, cliched, ideas.0 -
Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
✭Soliduparrow wrote: »I rate it 3 bags of popcorn and a medium diet sprite.
That artificial sweetner is going to make you fatter!!!
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elxdark✭First of all, I'm not a fanboy neither a hater, I'm just a customer.
4/10 and I'm giving 3 only for the hype, I'm so disappointed of this game really...
I don't wanna explain all the stuff but to make a long story short:
Combat system = f2p games have better systems than this.
Grind = Quest grinding, at first it is awesome after 30 levels it becomes extremely boring.
Target system = this really annoying me, how can be that f2p poor games HAVE a better target system than ESO, everytime when I'm killing groups of mobs I can't attack 'cause the stupid mob near me is dead and the other is alive standing front of me and I can't target it. It isn't l2p it's your game that don't have a properly target system.
PVP = PVP could be the only good thing in eso IF the combat system was a bit better, the delay of attacks is insanity stupid, I now they are using Global cooldowns but why they have to make it so *** long, why do I need to wait 2 *** seconds before I can land another skill? I mean one skill animation is for example 1 second why do I have to wait 2 seconds after the animation to do another skill? it's silly.
Bugs/exploits : Do I really need to explain this? I know this is their first MMO game, I know this is still fresh, but what I don't know is how a company which had 1 year of testing stuff from the game, couldn't fix those bugs/exploits in that year?
I really have not an answer to this.
I mean did they really know how software works?
It has potential to be a decent MMO but this isn't worth the sub, maybe and just MAYBE when they get rid of those infinite bugs. ugly animations, poor end game they've got, MAYBE this game could be good.
GL with your game bet/zos.Edited by elxdark on April 29, 2014 3:15AM0 -
I give it an 8 out of 10... But then I'm an old DAoC'er and the RvR parts of ESO are very reminissent of DAoC
Give us a Darkness Falls and I'll up my score to 11
Edited by stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO on April 29, 2014 3:16AMThe statement "if you put enough monkeys behind enough typewriters... sooner or later one will produce the works of Shakespeare" has sadly been proven utterly wrong by the internet...0 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »i dont think there should be a developers thread, it will be flooded with petulant children wanting them to nerf this, nerf that.
So, you would rather there be a bunch of threads doing this?if anything they should keep a loose connection to the player base when it comes to development, and do what they have been doing, they story, the game, its failed to disappoint me so far, i have no reason to believe they will disappoint us without our asinine, cliched, ideas.
While you might feel the game is great as is, most people do not seem to think so. Either way, feedback is not a bad thing. It is still up to ZOS to decide what to do.0 -
HandofBane✭✭✭✭I am sitting at about a 5.5/10 right now. At the start of Early Access, I was rating it about a 4, due to all the problems that had still not been fixed from beta. Many of those have been resolved, but new similar issues have arisen, plus many other problems.
I love the crafting system, have been enjoying the PvP (when I can get into Cyrodiil, that whole infinite load screen thing made it difficult for a while), and had been enjoying the fact that solo play is perfectly viable for much of the game when I can't group up with friends.
That said, the negatives still remaining are pretty bad. Grouping is actually more painful than soloing in many cases due to how badly the game handles grouping for quests (I had one in Stormhaven bug on me last night when a random person I grouped with finished a quest we were both doing, and it ported ME out alongside him despite not talking to the last guy there, forcing me to go back and solo the big ass v2 Watcher boss since he couldn't go back in). I still run into issues with the lore not making sense or being really flimsy. I run into major technical issues constantly with NPCs failing to load in world, or terrain loading but collision failing causing me to fall through stairs/buildings and be forced to either /stuck or log into Cyrodiil to get out. And then there is the Customer Service - the worst I have seen in any MMO over the past 14 years, though they are obviously attempting to improve it.
They have a lot of potential here, they just need to get their *** together and not be afraid to hire a few more bodies/train them to actually deal with customer issues rather than copy/paste to damn near every ticket filed.0 -
love the game so... 9/10
the game has a few things to iron out sure, but there will always be things to iron out... great game!0 -
steveb16_ESO46✭✭✭✭✭Good game that could be great. I fear it's chance of achieving that greatness is slipping away though, between the botting, the bugs and some shockingly poor customer service and relations.
But either way I'm probably here for some time so long as it remains a sub based model.
ZMO need to severely up their game though.0 -
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✭I give it a 8. Skill line bugs are killing me atm. I got sick of having to relog to get my vamp passives back, and ended up just afk'n in a keep. They game is too fun to have stupid game breaking bugs like this.Killed by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
Killed by Early Bright - Blood Flow - Magicka NB Build
Twitch - SunshineNB
Youtube - The Redguard0 -
steveb16_ESO46✭✭✭✭✭PVP = PVP could be the only good thing in eso IF the combat system was a bit better, the delay of attacks is insanity stupid, I now they are using Global cooldowns but why they have to make it so *** long, why do I need to wait 2 *** seconds before I can land another skill?
GL with your game bet/zos.
There are no global cool-downs. If you're having issues it's a combination of latency and running out of the resource the skill draws on.
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I give it a 8. Skill line bugs are killing me atm. I got sick of having to relog to get my vamp passives back, and ended up just afk'n in a keep. They game is too fun to have stupid game breaking bugs like this.
Actually, I found out that if you port out to a different zone your passives are back. That... does work when you're doing something "outside" but when you're in a dungeon or something yea you have to relog.
But I mean... I log out log back in is a quick fix for now and only takes about 15 seconds... people are making way too much of a big deal on this.
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Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »
There are no global cool-downs.
True. It is more likely to be server lag.0 -
take to long for pros and cons, longevity is key for me and this game does not have it.
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ElohssaSoul ShrivenI would rate it a 7 out of 10
Good
I like the class system. lots of variety for play style
The grouping mechanics are good One payer skills can boost anothers
and most importantly...
to me the game is just fun
Bad...
guild trade is the worst I have seen in any game -- there is no search functionality
If I wanted to search for "Garlic" for provisioning I must search thru every trade item until I find it.
This is why I believe most people do not use it and just spam in open chat
Broken quests
way too many to list...
Worst
Customer support. -- Sucks the royal big Wee- Wee
Tickets get canned responses that have nothing to do with the original issue.
Example: I put in a ticket for a lost item. I get a response back about hot to fix a billing issue.
Tickets being ignored.
If I report a gold spammer I get a response within 24 hours.
If I put in a ticket to have my gold from lost bank slots ( all I wanted was the cost of the slots and I followed their directions from the Lost bank item sticky ) -- I don not get a response at all
Billing issue confusion. You must pay more time to get your 30 free days.
It is a poor response saying " It was clearly spelled out " If it was clearly spelled out then there would not be such a big confusion. This is like saying " It's not my fault your too stupid to understand my legalese " . Its insulting to your customers. Please take ownership of your issues and respond accordingly.
BTW... Every other game I have purchased automatically allowed the 30 day free upon first registration. After that first 30 days were up they could not play unless purchasing more time.0 -
I would rate it a 7 out of 10
Good
I like the class system. lots of variety for play style
The grouping mechanics are good One payer skills can boost anothers
and most importantly...
to me the game is just fun
Bad...
guild trade is the worst I have seen in any game -- there is no search functionality
If I wanted to search for "Garlic" for provisioning I must search thru every trade item until I find it.
This is why I believe most people do not use it and just spam in open chat
Broken quests
way too many to list...
Worst
Customer support. -- Sucks the royal big Wee- Wee
Tickets get canned responses that have nothing to do with the original issue.
Example: I put in a ticket for a lost item. I get a response back about hot to fix a billing issue.
Tickets being ignored.
If I report a gold spammer I get a response within 24 hours.
If I put in a ticket to have my gold from lost bank slots ( all I wanted was the cost of the slots and I followed their directions from the Lost bank item sticky ) -- I don not get a response at all
Billing issue confusion. You must pay more time to get your 30 free days.
It is a poor response saying " It was clearly spelled out " If it was clearly spelled out then there would not be such a big confusion. This is like saying " It's not my fault your too stupid to understand my legalese " . Its insulting to your customers. Please take ownership of your issues and respond accordingly.
BTW... Every other game I have purchased automatically allowed the 30 day free upon first registration. After that first 30 days were up they could not play unless purchasing more time.
funny how you spent a lot more time on the bad and worse of the game and then give it a 7/10, come on now be honest lol
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Elirienne✭✭✭✭9/10
In particular, LOVING:
* the UI - no clutter, no flying text, no nameplates = immersion for me
* Quest cluttering done well and instinctively, best in all mmos I have seen.
* build flexibility
* main quest being solo, and that everything can be done solo - not forcing multiplayer
* and the fact that the game is not forcing you to make alts - you can do everything with one character
* and the quests and the lore
* multiple guilds - loving this. One with friends, one for RP, one for trade... excellent
Disliking:
*The trade system - too confusing and multi-layered with the guild system
*(may be slight spolier) how, in real eSO style, main story doesnt get tied down properly, like in Skyrim - you kill the big bad dragon, then you return, and not even a welcome party or a pat on the back. Where are our leaders at lvl 50 after I return from coldharbour?
*respec system (why not one point at a time?)
* lack of appearance changing options (ok, I dont want to turn a high elf into a khajit, but come on, people change hairstyles IRL too... it wouldn't be lore breaking.)
I love it that it is not a wow or rift clone. Please do not ever change it.
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Ranger✭✭9/10
Game is as true to the series as it can be in an mmo format
only reason it doesn't get a 10 is because they didn't have the foresight ( or maybe experience ) to anticipate the Gold Seller problems.
Multiple game currencies for example might have kept them outEdited by Ranger on April 30, 2014 1:36PM0 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭9/10
Game is as true to the series as it can be in an mmo format
Really?
MMOs have underwater swimming.
TES has underwater swimming.
ESO has no underwater swimming.
MMOs have dueling.
TES had dueling
ESO has no dueling.
MMOs have housing.
TES had housing.
ESO has no housing.
MMOs have a law system
TES had a law system.
ESO has no law system.
Honestly, I could do this all day long, but I think you get my point. 3 -
Blackwidow wrote: »9/10
Game is as true to the series as it can be in an mmo format
Really?
MMOs have underwater swimming.
TES has underwater swimming.
ESO has no underwater swimming.
MMOs have dueling.
TES had dueling
ESO has no dueling.
MMOs have housing.
TES had housing.
ESO has no housing.
MMOs have a law system
TES had a law system.
ESO has no law system.
Honestly, I could do this all day long, but I think you get my point.
Yes you could and you should, its sad but true, there is so much from this list missing and it could go on and on, and not just compared to ESO but also compared to other great MMOs, I was really hoping this game in all its time of preparation and baking that it would have taken all the best ideas from the successful mmos and dropped the not so good stuff and made the perfect most enjoyable mmorpg of all time!
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