SkaraMinoc wrote: »

How do you answer this unless you're familiar with all of the above?

You don't.... at least not accurately.

I've only used 4 of the items on the list and would be biased into saying Lava Whip since I use it the most, however I know just how powerful Puncturing Strikes and Veiled Strike can be.

Jabs

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Pretty much the same. They act mostly the same, feel exactly the same. Not really much of a difference, which is kind of how ZoS wants it.

I would guess everyone has their own opinion based on which classes they play.
I have a DK but he's a tank, so whip need not apply
I have a MAGden, and a STAMden, and while it's effective to me Dive just feels so cheap to use
Crystal Shards on my Sorc felt more rewarding for some reason, tho I wouldn't call it the best

Jabjabjabjabjabjabjab

AOE spammable which heals you (mag morph) - obvious choice.

jabs is clunky and ugly imo. I like both nightblade ones

You underestimate the power of the spin to win

In terms of power jabs is the best but visually death scythe is the greatest. It's just so sad how weak the stam version is, the magicka morph is at least get used by tanks but the stam version gets completely overshadowed by cleave and carve. It could have been the perfect spammable for a stam necro but instead we got the stupid skulls which also nobody uses on stam. Hope someday they do something cool with the stam version and make it a good spammable.

I main a sorc, but hands down templar stabs are op af. Great utility, hits multiple things, can do almost nothing else and still mow things down.

I wish they made death scythe an execute, because you know…it’s a scythe.

Sweeps is ridiculous in that it can put out similar damage to blastbones, (every second not 3) PLUS the burning light passsive which is like wearing a proc set, PLUS heals for 40%... PLUS snares...

PLUS removes NBs from stealth effectively rendering most magblades and many stamblades completely impotent, i.e dead

Best spammable by far.

Blastbones (if not bugged).

But I think we are missing some spammables as weapon skill spammables and elemental weapons.

I think its puncturing strikes. But I dont think that they are insanely overpowered and need a drastic nerf. They are just a really good spammable with plenty of utility.

I think in the optimal situation the second best are Sorcs Crystal Shards.

They are lacking 2 things to be best: cleave and / or instant. Thats why Sorcs are bad at AOE damage compared to other classes and it can be lackluster (because of interuptability) which makes you loose plenty of damage or needs at least a second spammable. In the later case crystal shards are only used as a inferior version of Blastbones or Shalks (both similar damage, both aoe).

But right now they are sometimes even worse than other spammables (if you get interrupted or need cleave).

Even not mentioneing the wonkiness of weaving it (but you can still get used to it) and the bar swap bug it often triggers (especially if you arent used to weaving / bar swapping).

Kaspy wrote: »

Any ranged skill has by default more utility than a melee skill.
Any skill that is a simple cast rather than a channel is easier to use.

Cast time skills arent that much better. Especially because of that bar swap bug. Except if you are using Crystal Fragments only when procced, but in this case crystal fragments arent any more a real spammable, like blastbones and shalks.

Also I wouldnt see difficulty in usage necessarily as the most important factor here, because people can get used to difficult stuff and then it even doesnt matter at all if it doesnt hinder you. But non procced cast time Crystal Fragments with the possible bar swap bug arent the easiest spammable either.

Also being range helps, especially in the beginning, but for most content melee works well too, especially in organized groups, you are still standing close behind the enemy / boss. Also puncturing strikes have a little higher range than melee.

You could argue that puncturing strikes are content depend but nonetheless they are great.