mutharex wrote: »

vizionblind_ESO wrote: »

I wish they took exploration in zones a bit further, to find secret things

more than this. GW2 is a good example

You mean like chests, delves, books that start quests?
Coz, you know, like, that's already totally there. If you bother exploring

more than this. GW2 is a good example

I will never understand these reviews. They all say ESO is to much of a single player game. Then in the next breath say they don't like to see other people in the dungeons.

Azarul wrote: »

I will never understand these reviews. They all say ESO is to much of a single player game. Then in the next breath say they don't like to see other people in the dungeons.

It's not hard to understand, ESO is an endless series of solo quests. The times you do have other people around, it's structured very badly (public dungeons) or does not give exp (4 man dungeons). In terms of basic design, it's a disaster.

A lot of the reason the game has turned out so poorly is I think Zenimax took feedback from some of the least knowledgeable people I've seen in 15+ years of playing mmos. The level of white knighting has certainly been self destructive for the game.

I couldn't care less anymore what the critics have to say about it. 99% of the time when a so called critic says that a movie sucks, that means that I will like it. Critics are just that. Critics. I've been playing MMOs for 20+ years. I know a good one when I see it.

YuccaPalm wrote: »

Who cares? This review is fail. They rate Skyrim 9 and ESO 6 even tho ESO has better quests and combat etc.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

"Go inside this ruin that has the same layout as 30 others before it and slay your way to the end where you will come across a generic boss that will either be incredibly easy or significantly difficult. After the battle, you will activate a generic artifact to summon the spirit of another generic NPC that will thank you for setting him free or some such other nonsense."

And better combat? For real?

"Choose between 6 skills which look even less remarkable than the NPC skills. Oh, you can also use a different 6 skills if you choose another weapon to swap between. This is not superfluous at all."


tl;dr Elder Guild Scroll Wars 2: Neverwinter Edition

Gives teso 6 , gives call of dutys 8 to 9 Lol, sure, a game that has been LITERALLY copy pasted since cod 4.

Actually, while a few days ago there was still a swarm of fanboys attacking this review, it seems they slowly dwindle, and the group of critics gets bigger and bigger.
Something tells me this game will see a big hit to its userbase in a few days, and then another equally big hit in another 30 days.

Considering that in all of the guilds i am in there is already roundabout 50% of the people who did already stop playing during the free month.

This is sad. If there was one game i wanted to succeed it was this one. So, unless ZO really gets their *** together about bots, bugs and phasing (and difficulty balancing), this will go down the drain rather quick.

I just cant imagine how they are planning to fix this. Phasing is so deeply integrated into their gamedesign that i dont see a way to repair the damage. And i also believe that all of the quest bugs are basically fixable, but the issues lies more on the scripting they use for it. So, as long as they will add in new quests (which i hope they will do) there will be those gamebreaking quest bugs.

The only problem that will fix itself is the bots. Where there is no players, there is no need to sell gold.

Someday people will learn. If you compare an online game to an offline game, you're gonna have a bad time.

Lanatireb17_ESO wrote: »

Actually, while a few days ago there was still a swarm of fanboys attacking this review, it seems they slowly dwindle, and the group of critics gets bigger and bigger.
Something tells me this game will see a big hit to its userbase in a few days, and then another equally big hit in another 30 days.

Considering that in all of the guilds i am in there is already roundabout 50% of the people who did already stop playing during the free month.

This is sad. If there was one game i wanted to succeed it was this one. So, unless ZO really gets their *** together about bots, bugs and phasing (and difficulty balancing), this will go down the drain rather quick.

I just cant imagine how they are planning to fix this. Phasing is so deeply integrated into their gamedesign that i dont see a way to repair the damage. And i also believe that all of the quest bugs are basically fixable, but the issues lies more on the scripting they use for it. So, as long as they will add in new quests (which i hope they will do) there will be those gamebreaking quest bugs.

The only problem that will fix itself is the bots. Where there is no players, there is no need to sell gold.

That is because the "Fanboys" get tired of this forum crap and have a wonderful game to go back to. The haters, well, all they have is the forum, so enjoy.

Taid wrote: »

RianaTheBosmer wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

Valn wrote: »

And this guy actually gave SWTOR a 8...it's obviously a biased review, he prefers themeparks.....and the guy didn't even use the words veteran ranks or endgame in his "review". Crap review from a crap reviewer is all ill say. I wonder what level he got to...probably was too busy thinking about wow to care about the story etc..

If he really gave SWTOR an 8 at launch than that alone obliterates any worth his opinion would have for me.

Think I'll skip giving this review a look ^^

I love SWTOR, played it in January, 1 month after launch, and still loved it. I still love it to this day.

Bro, did you know that they closed the Star Wars Galaxy Server ( BIG FKN SANDBOX ) for this piece of crap ? In my opinion, Swtor is an unliked child only a mother can love.

1) Riana is a girl's name
2) SWTOR is a good game, don't care if you like it or not. Glad you're gone from it.
3) I take it, you're not a mother. I am.

RianaTheBosmer wrote: »

There are many of us who don't agree with you in many of your points. When you leave, we'll be here playing and enjoying this "run of the mill" game.

Seriously, this is why ESO forums should be subscriber only. What you are presenting is your opinion on the game and trying to get others to not play a game that many, many of us like because you don't and several of the reviewers who played for 20 minutes don't like.

Seriously, I can see getting both sides and watching youtube vids before buying a game but I played 3 beta weekends and bought the game and love the game. Bashing a game you don't like, saying the story isn't good and that potential players should read your review and all the negative reviews on the ESO forums, is not cool at all.

His opinion of the game is just as valid as yours and he has every right to express it the same as you.

I've reached Veteran Rank 3 and thus far I can tell you that I have grown quite weary.

Instead of having substantial end-game content, it basically just throws you to the other factions, drastically lowering replay value.

The PVP is just a zergfest for the most part, but in small skirmishes (if there's no lag) it can be fun.

The game tries to get away from the "Kill 10 Rabbit" quests, but it doesn't really replace them with anything better. Instead of killing 10 rabbits, your quest is to reach the end of a cave or ruin or some other nonsense that looks entirely generic, is entirely linear, and the layout of which you have seen many times before. There are a few good quests such as the Mage's Guild quests which I enjoyed for the story. The group dungeon boss fights can be entertaining. I also give credit for the entertaining fight with Molag Bal at the end of the main quest line as it was fun, however for the most part the game achieves common MMORPG drudgery.

The environment is immersive for the most part, however, the world design itself is abhorrent. Giant rock walls span the maps, clearly meant to guide you. It's entirely cumbersome. Also, Cyrodiil feels bland and empty.

The voice acting is absolutely terrible save for the main characters. It's some of the worst voice acting I've seen in a modern western video game in a while. I like Kate Beckingsale, I like Sheogorath, and I like the Companions, but nearly everyone else makes me cringe. (especially that one male bosmer voice actor that voices that Brackenleaf tree. I literally had to turn voices off for that questline.)

The combat is mediocre. I've only played with staves, so I can't speak for melee, but it gets old quite quickly, especially when you're limited to a small amount of skills. You'll find yourself doing the same thing over and over and over again. While you do get another weapon choice and bar, you'll want to save this for a different challenge like for healing or aoe or groups. I do applaud the lack of cooldown and focus on resource management. It's a refreshing change. The staff light attack animations are ridiculous in my opinion. He draws his arm back as though from recoil, but he stops midway and then continues. It is especially awkward. The sorcerer skills are very lackluster in terms of grandeur compared to some of the NPC skills I've seen.

I think it deserves a 5/10. It's a mediocre game that can be entertaining, but doesn't bring anything new to the table. A lot of people are excited at the moment because it's shiny and new, but as time passes they will realize that this is just a plain copper penny riding the coat tails of a successful video game franchise. I honestly see it going F2P sometime Q1-Q2 next year.

Well 4 days and the freemonthers are gone.... it's gonna be nice losing all these trolls

Varivox9 wrote: »

I agree with pretty much the rest of your post. However, I think before you condemn the combat, I'd suggest trying melee. I've done staves and I've done sword/board and 2h, and staves are definitely lacking imo. I always feel like my staff attacks have as much "power" behind them as a sparkler (lightning staff is the worst for this imo). Melee hits however, feel better imo. Staves are very boring, with the only good skill being pulsar and the rest are forgettable.

Alright. I'm going to reroll a Nord Nightblade Greatsword master.

Mostly agreed - when he says positives:)

- completely do not agree why he says that "game doesn't provide opportunities for players to come together" - he simply have not played dungeons and leveled through quests only, but it is freedom we can use - not a problem. He actually later describes reverse, so this article has contradiction.

- The complain about "role playing as thief": but I remember that game promised to introduce "justice system" at some point, now we can just grab everything - actually there is no thief role existing (so I even do not understand authors complain) at all in this game, but imagine that stealing things might be noticed by NPC and punished hardly - that would make dramatic change in many aspects (gathering provisioning materials). Also there are situatioins when sneaking allows to move faster, but finally there is a boss to kill, so it does not play big role (only few quests exist that should be done by sneaking).

The point to agree is that phasing the quests can be annoying sometimes - it is mostly the lack of plain information when you are in team. I would propose to show quest phases near to players health bars in party so all would know exactly that they will not see the same and what will be a reason for it. This will be immersion breaking, but entering different phases is same immersion breaking plus is annoying.

Gohlar wrote: »

Azarul wrote: »

I will never understand these reviews. They all say ESO is to much of a single player game. Then in the next breath say they don't like to see other people in the dungeons.

It's not hard to understand, ESO is an endless series of solo quests. The times you do have other people around, it's structured very badly (public dungeons) or does not give exp (4 man dungeons). In terms of basic design, it's a disaster.

A lot of the reason the game has turned out so poorly is I think Zenimax took feedback from some of the least knowledgeable people I've seen in 15+ years of playing mmos. The level of white knighting has certainly been self destructive for the game.

I disagree with what you said.

TESO support group play more than any other MMO that I played in the past years. While it is a disadvantage to group in other games (World of Warcraft as example), it isn't at TESO.

You don't need to find 100 paws in a 4 men group instead of 25, you don't to find 48 candles instead of 12 no! Every player can loot the quest item, just like every player can kill the quest mob.

Also, if you only group if you get more xp than someone alone, then you don't understand the reason for grouping. Grouping should not reward you higher, but enhance your ingame experience.

World of Warcraft for instance rewards people in groups so high, that you are forced to play in a group. The result is, people dump you for a faster group, for a easier game every time.

The guild and group content at wow is a nightmare, there is no loyalty or anything because people only join group activities to enhance their own personal profit.


If ZO is smart, then they will never give people in a group more loot or xp. This would ensure that only those that want to meet others group and not those who only want to profit from a group.