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Gamespot reviews ESO. 6/10
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d0e1ow✭✭✭✭It boggles the mind that people actually rate SW:TOR at launch higher than this game. It truly does.
SW:TOR, perhaps, has the better story. Ok, it does. -but- just about everything else about the game was just painful.
It had some of the worst world design I have ever seen in an MMO. It seems like people overlook all of the things that this game does do right.
It has nice combat, cool class development, a decent story with above average presentation for the genre, it masks the themepark quest grind well imo, and the world is brilliantly designed. As brilliant as a themepark world can be designed. I love hunting for chests and such.
Yeah, it's an average MMO, but that doesn't mean it's bad. It doesn't blow my mind, but I've been around this genre long enough now that pretty much nothing does. For everything the game does, another game does better, but you know what? This game does, at least imo, does everything well, and neglects nothing. (Maybe the anchors are the one exception... oh, and the useless fishing, BUT YA KNOW!) GW2 has better exploration, but the lore bites. WoW has better... uhm... well... scratch that. SW:TOR has better story, but the world and combat bites. FFXIV has better graphics, but the game is just in your face linear and restricted. I don't feel the "but" with ESO. It just is.
Gamespot can eat my shorts. 7/10 or bust for me. Will subscribe thus far.Edited by d0e1ow on April 26, 2014 1:25AM"Her mystery was as essential to her as savagery was to Boethiah or treachery was to Molag Bal. To understand Nocturnal is to negate her, to pull back the curtains cloaking her realm of darkness." - Sigillah Parate "Invocation of Azura"0 -
Melian✭✭✭✭You know, I've tried to be positive, but the way the bad reviews are piling up, I guess it's time to admit that this game, as much as I might like it, isn't going to last long.
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You see, I'm going to have to just go ahead and respectfully disagree with you there ...reason why skyrim got a 9 and this didnt its because Skyrim felt like an ES. this doesnt.
When I first played Skyrim, it didn't feel like ES to me at all ( but I warmed to it after a while ) - I got a bigger shock in the transition from Oblivion to Skyrim than from Morrowind to Oblivion. However, over time it becomes part of the canon.
ESO actually reminds me of Morrowind, and I think the quality of the quest lines is very good - full of humor and surprise plot twists. In my opinion, the quests in ESO are also a lot more imaginative than those in Skyrim. The latter rarely seemed to deviate from the same formula as far as story lines go.
I think people are trying to level too fast, and are just clicking through all the quests in ESO without taking in the stories, and then saying the quests are boring.
Anyway, it would not surprise me if, in the future, someone was to review Elder Scrolls 6, and say something like "I don't know - <ES6> doesn't feel like an ES game to me ( not like TESO or Skyrim )" :-)
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/yawnvizionblind_ESO wrote: »
Another pointless thread linking a worthless review. Who does anyone think websites like that matter, are so many people incapable of thinking for themselves and require an internet egotist to tell them what to play?
Really?
Well, unless you are a moron and buy a game without doing research into some of the good and bad points of a game then yes, I'm sure things like this have zero merit. Using 1 source for all your information is equally stupid. Using a multitude of sources to gather information about a game is intelligent, and if more people would do it we wouldn't be in the sorry ass state that we are as MMO players. Blindly spending money on tripe is what these companies are banking on. Saying no to trash is the only thing that is going to get this genre into a better state.
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Melian✭✭✭✭I don't know what you hope to accomplish by laughing at my post. Hurt me for daring to speak the unpleasant truth? It counts as an upvote, fyi.2
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Csub✭✭✭✭✭The metacritic is around 75 which is not bad for a new mmo in my opinion and it is not the critic that keeps a game alive but the subs so let's just hope there are still a lot of us around enjoying it. Also, people just post here the below 8 ratings as I noticed."The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn0 -
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✭Does these reviewers actually play the game? From the info you got from the guy, he could just read forums from WoW people complaining, since one of the few things people DONT seam to complain about every few seconds.....is the PVP zone.Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
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neocomab16_ESO✭✭✭SWTOR did in deed have fewer bugs than ESO. Plus grouping was more friendly. Dungeons did drop loot more frequently, gave more exp and such. Plus is was a true themepark MMO. People expected this from SWTOR. Missing dungeon finder was an issue tho. ESO however is based on a sandbox forced into a themepark but themepark done wrong. That is probably why gamespot gave it a 63
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Gohlar✭✭✭✭neocomab16_ESO wrote: »ESO however is based on a sandbox forced into a themepark but themepark done wrong.
This really does sum things up. They went with a familiar formula and tried to distance themselves in all the wrong ways.
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Winke✭✭✭@rawne1980b16_ESO im dying laughin right now:: Winke::Breton Templar::Merchant::
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Skillet✭✭✭I would have rated it a 7/10. Fun game, but nothing special, for me at least. I prefer more of the skyrim/oblivion model. Yes, I know, this is a mmo.0
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AreoHotah✭✭✭✭This Khajiit reviews the game 8.7/10
That all that matters to me
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mutharex✭✭✭✭✭vizionblind_ESO wrote: »I wish they took exploration in zones a bit further, to find secret things
You mean like chests, delves, books that start quests?
Coz, you know, like, that's already totally there. If you bother exploring
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Naqahdah✭Generally I agree with Kevin's scores, outside of mmorpgs. I agree with some points, but for the most part I think he is like many, not rating the game on its own merits, instead chopping it up into parts, comparing each part against a separate unique product, and then comparing how that mashup works in their mind versus the game as it stands.
He gave another Hero Engine game, SWTOR, 2 points higher (a game which was also a single player/ mmo mashup), despite them being remarkably similar. I think combat in SWTOR was a little better, story was about equal, quest objectives were worse(lots of standard mmo-trope kill-10-rakghouls type), and exploration in the heavily invisible wall laden zones was undeniably far worse. Zones are linear to the point of being painful. I'm honestly not sure where he found another 2 points for SWTOR, and I generally enjoy SWTOR for what it is.
Although, at the bottom it notes that he thinks Asherons Call 2 was a hidden gem, and having played beta/release for that (original release), I'm thinking our definition of 'gem', as it pertains to mmorpgs, seems to differ wildly.0 -
Melian✭✭✭✭vizionblind_ESO wrote: »I wish they took exploration in zones a bit further, to find secret things
You mean like chests, delves, books that start quests?
Coz, you know, like, that's already totally there. If you bother exploring
And the skyshards, the little scenes that tell a story (human skeleton stabbing mammoth skeleton, a journal by a pile of rocks, etc.), lorebooks, resources, fissures...?
It's amazing how many of the complaints about this game are over the lack of things it actually has in abundance.
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RianaTheBosmer✭✭✭And this guy actually gave SWTOR a 8...it's obviously a biased review, he prefers themeparks.....and the guy didn't even use the words veteran ranks or endgame in his "review". Crap review from a crap reviewer is all ill say. I wonder what level he got to...probably was too busy thinking about wow to care about the story etc..
If he really gave SWTOR an 8 at launch than that alone obliterates any worth his opinion would have for me.
Think I'll skip giving this review a look ^^
I love SWTOR, played it in January, 1 month after launch, and still loved it. I still love it to this day.
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reften✭✭✭✭✭To have a site like Gamespot review a game like ESO by ONE person, less than one month after release, is a joke. I believe at minimum three people should contribute to a game review, playing three different classes. One person with high interest in lore, one person with high interest in gameplay and one person with high interest in min-max'ing nuts and bolts of the game including crafting etc.
To me, ESO is just downright fun. I HATED instanced based games of any kind. I like that I can be trying to accomplish something and suddenly be joined by some other players with the same goal with zero planning on getting a group going.
Just way too much fun. Feels like an open world inhabited by other players...not a Call of Duty version of Skyrim that other games are like.Reften
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Love the Packers, Bourbon, and ESO...one of those will eventually kill me.4 -
Knovah✭✭✭I personally never took a review serious until at least 6 weeks into a game after release.
I give one month to get the game breaking bugs fixed ( there will always be small bugs to tweek) and extra two weeks till the first monthers have blown through content, spam rage forums and move on to next game.
What you are left with is core players a few straggler trolls (every forums has them and needs them to a point) and a game that is getting settled.
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✭✭✭✭✭RianaTheBosmer wrote: »And this guy actually gave SWTOR a 8...it's obviously a biased review, he prefers themeparks.....and the guy didn't even use the words veteran ranks or endgame in his "review". Crap review from a crap reviewer is all ill say. I wonder what level he got to...probably was too busy thinking about wow to care about the story etc..
If he really gave SWTOR an 8 at launch than that alone obliterates any worth his opinion would have for me.
Think I'll skip giving this review a look ^^
I love SWTOR, played it in January, 1 month after launch, and still loved it. I still love it to this day.
I hated it. The worlds were empty and boring with nothing but a load of daily quest grinds at the end to look forward to. The whole thing just felt like a lazy attempt to remake WoW in Star War's image to me.
It was easily one of my biggest game disappointments. But I'm glad you like the game and enjoy it
If we all liked and hated the same stuff people would be boring.
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Taid✭✭RianaTheBosmer wrote: »And this guy actually gave SWTOR a 8...it's obviously a biased review, he prefers themeparks.....and the guy didn't even use the words veteran ranks or endgame in his "review". Crap review from a crap reviewer is all ill say. I wonder what level he got to...probably was too busy thinking about wow to care about the story etc..
If he really gave SWTOR an 8 at launch than that alone obliterates any worth his opinion would have for me.
Think I'll skip giving this review a look ^^
I love SWTOR, played it in January, 1 month after launch, and still loved it. I still love it to this day.
Bro, did you know that they closed the Star Wars Galaxy Server ( BIG FKN SANDBOX ) for this piece of crap ? In my opinion, Swtor is an unliked child only a mother can love.
You know the old saying.....Neither a Troll, nor a Fanboy be?
RUBBISH!
Without Trolls and Fanboys, how could we ever be able to sell anything?
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Naqahdah✭RianaTheBosmer wrote: »
While I generally don't mind frequent use of the same voice actor, I will say I'm am so tired of hearing Tigger.
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Aria✭✭✭I already formed my own opinion thank you by actually playing not reading someone else's view on the game!
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mutharex✭✭✭✭✭vizionblind_ESO wrote: »I wish they took exploration in zones a bit further, to find secret things
You mean like chests, delves, books that start quests?
Coz, you know, like, that's already totally there. If you bother exploring
And the skyshards, the little scenes that tell a story (human skeleton stabbing mammoth skeleton, a journal by a pile of rocks, etc.), lorebooks, resources, fissures...?
It's amazing how many of the complaints about this game are over the lack of things it actually has in abundance.
I didn't think that was the kind of stuff he'd interesting him
But love those things. AND THE CHESTS.1 -
Varivox9✭✭✭I like the "SWToR got X/10, so ESO review is bogus" mentality. IMO, yea, SWToR was scored way too much, but their review of ESO, while too brief, is "fair".
ESO isn't anything special. Combat and class customization are about the only 2 things it does right, but everything else brings it down considerably. I for one don't like that in PvE, stealth is useless. I don't like that I have 0 impact on the story (even though I get to make "choices" that don't matter). Guild functions are sparse (4 ranks (2 of which are officer/leader?), no bank limits (took my main guild all of a day before we ran into an issue here), guild history (lets promote people based on the shortest history log ever!). Story is bland, I expect a halfway decent story other than "he's bad guy, you hero, save day? HORAY!". PvE is very much on rails. You WILL go from point A to point B, zone x to zone y.
ESO does nothing special. It tries to be different and the same at the same time, and doesn't really do either very well. It tries to be an MMO (and fails) and it tries to be an ES game (and fails). I could forgive a run of the mill, average game a lot more if it didn't charge me a sub fee, lock a race behind a paywall (in a sub based game noless, and, offer different stats as well, P2W once a single % point changes imo). However, for $15/month + base game price, I expect something memorable. That's my short review though, and Kevin VO has his. If your smart, you'll read his, mine, and many many other reviews before buying any game.
He rated SWToR too high, I'll agree, but that doesn't invalidate his pointing out that ESO is a pretty average game in almost every respect.0
