Solo dungeon mode, please

myskyrim26 · November 2021

Solo Players!
Have you seen this? Overland Content Feedback Thread - an official thread made by ZOS, https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/590162/overland-content-feedback-thread#latest
Those players MADE IT. Their plea for a harder overland is LISTENED TO. Why? Because they made a new topic every week! They kept fighting and now they are LISTENED TO. OFFICIALLY!

Guys. I know - you are solo players. I know you never want speak in public. I don't want it, too. But we have to.

Dear @ZOS,
Please, give us a SOLO dungeon mode so that we can learn the LORE locked behind the 4-player dungeons. Companions are of no - or little use - to help in doing some base game dungeons solo.
Companions are of no use at all in DLC dungeons. Please, dont tell us of "friends" or "guilds". I can't even do a story dungeon with my.... spouse sitting in the next room to me! We, solo players, have our... SOLO intentions! I can spend a game DAY in a Fungal Grotto 1 just roaming around! I want to roam all the dungeons like I di in FG1!

@ZOS... you lured me by promising "Play as you want" thing. I'm waiting for this "play as you want". I still have a hope.

Sylvermynx · November 2021

Um. That's a bit extreme. And I don't mean asking for solo dungeons or story mode. I mean getting hysterical about harder overland.

Those who want it haven't "got it" - they have a thread stickied by @ZOS_Kevin, in which those of the players who either don't want harder overland at all or, like me, are fine with it if it's optional, are all also posting. This thread was instituted because some of those who don't want harder overland apparently asked various mods/admins to stop the threads starting over and over and over - sometimes one new one every few hours even.

The "harder overland discussion thread" is a place for those on both sides of the fence to state what they want or don't. Yes, I'm aware that the same couple of people on both sides are monopolizing the thread, which really shouldn't be happening - but if the mods/admins choose to let it continue, it is after all up to them.

myskyrim26 · November 2021

Well.. A lot of players asked for a Story Mode for dungeone for a long time here... While the 4-player dungeon lore was just a side - a very side of an Allaince quest zone, it was ok. But when ZOS started to made Arched Years starting with.... guess what? Dungeones! Here's when we got frustrated..........

Sylvermynx · November 2021

Being frustrated by something you'd like but hasn't happened is fine. Calling a stickied thread a "win" for one or the other side isn't.

myskyrim26 · November 2021

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Being frustrated by something you'd like but hasn't happened is fine. Calling a stickied thread a "win" for one or the other side isn't.

Not sure what you mean, need to translate. Sorry, English is not my native, really need a dictionary now...

myskyrim26 · November 2021

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Um. That's a bit extreme. And I don't mean asking for solo dungeons or story mode. I mean getting hysterical about harder overland.

Those who want it haven't "got it" - they have a thread stickied by @ZOS_Kevin, in which those of the players who either don't want harder overland at all or, like me, are fine with it if it's optional, are all also posting. This thread was instituted because some of those who don't want harder overland apparently asked various mods/admins to stop the threads starting over and over and over - sometimes one new one every few hours even.

The "harder overland discussion thread" is a place for those on both sides of the fence to state what they want or don't. Yes, I'm aware that the same couple of people on both sides are monopolizing the thread, which really shouldn't be happening - but if the mods/admins choose to let it continue, it is after all up to them.

Do you remember "necromacer class" posts? It took just a couple of years to appear. Once a crowd is shouting....

Sylvermynx · November 2021

Oh, sorry, wasn't aware.

You certainly can be upset and have the right to be upset that you have been asking for however long for story mode/solo dungeons so you can enjoy the lore, that's fine. Lots of us are upset by things we'd like to see but seem never to happen. But just because Kevin made a sticky thread for the opposing viewpoints about "harder overland", does not in any way mean that those on either side of the discussion are going to win, it just means that the forum admin was tired of having so many threads about it over and over in the forum.

myskyrim26 · November 2021

Sylvermynx wrote: »

I don't want to win. Or loose. You want harder overland? I wish my best hopes you get this option. I want my solo dungeon mode? Wish me best luck... If you understand me.

Chrysa1is · November 2021

I would've loved to have seen ZOS introduce Solo Dungeons as some sort "Daedric Trial" and the rewards were the Daedric Artifacts that could've been used.

Weapons would add unique abilities in your skill bar, armour had unique abilities and misc items like skeleton key would mean you'd never have thousands of lockpicks again.

But, artifacts are already being implemented in a different way, so Daedric Trials could never be a thing really.

Sylvermynx · November 2021

Certainly. I do hope you get what you wish for. I personally don't want harder overland but as long as it's totally optional I don't mind if it happens. As for solo dungeons, I really don't have any interest in that myself, but I can't see any reason it shouldn't be added.

spartaxoxo · November 2021

The thread was stickied because people who didn't want to read it kept whispering mods to get it censored and closed. And then people who wanted it would make a new thread, resulting in the topic getting spammed.

So they made a megathread and stickied it. No more new threads, and the people who complain the thread gets to exist will just have to deal with it.

It's not about the devs being more or less likely to implement a change. It's about trying to accommodate both the people who want to discuss the topic and the people complaining the forums are ruined by people discussing a topic they are tired of seeing discussed.

Kwoung · November 2021

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Solo Players!
Have you seen this? Overland Content Feedback Thread - an official thread made by ZOS, https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/394909/fashion-megathread/p128
Those players MADE IT. Their plea for a harder overland is LISTENED TO. Why? Because they made a new topic every week! They kept fighting and now they are LISTENED TO. OFFICIALLY!

Guys. I know - you are solo players. I know you never want speak in public. I don't want it, too. But we have to.

Dear @ZOS,
Please, give us a SOLO dungeon mode so that we can learn the LORE locked behind the 4-player dungeons. Companions are of no - or little use - to help in doing some base game dungeons solo.
Companions are of no use at all in DLC dungeons. Please, dont tell us of "friends" or "guilds". I can't even do a story dungeon with my.... spouse sitting in the next room to me! We, solo players, have our... SOLO intentions! I can spend a game DAY in a Fungal Grotto 1 just roaming around! I want to roam all the dungeons like I di in FG1!

@ZOS... you lured me by promising "Play as you want" thing. I'm waiting for this "play as you want". I still have a hope.

Umm.. your link is to the fashion mega thread, what does that have to do with harder overland content?

Kwoung · November 2021

Nevermind, found it... and it starts like this:

Hi All. We have seen the multitude of threads related to Overland Content. The increase in weekly threads around this issue has caused some users to have a negative experience on the forum overall, leading to the threads being closed.

No offense, but if you are leading the charge to spam the forums with multiple threads on the same subject daily... I do not wish you any luck at all. I find this to be a highly annoying practice, which is generally carried out by a very vocal minority trying to get their way, and it tends to ruin the forums for everyone.

myskyrim26 · November 2021

Kwoung wrote: »

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Solo Players!
Have you seen this? Overland Content Feedback Thread - an official thread made by ZOS, https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/394909/fashion-megathread/p128
Those players MADE IT. Their plea for a harder overland is LISTENED TO. Why? Because they made a new topic every week! They kept fighting and now they are LISTENED TO. OFFICIALLY!

Guys. I know - you are solo players. I know you never want speak in public. I don't want it, too. But we have to.

Dear @ZOS,
Please, give us a SOLO dungeon mode so that we can learn the LORE locked behind the 4-player dungeons. Companions are of no - or little use - to help in doing some base game dungeons solo.
Companions are of no use at all in DLC dungeons. Please, dont tell us of "friends" or "guilds". I can't even do a story dungeon with my.... spouse sitting in the next room to me! We, solo players, have our... SOLO intentions! I can spend a game DAY in a Fungal Grotto 1 just roaming around! I want to roam all the dungeons like I di in FG1!

@ZOS... you lured me by promising "Play as you want" thing. I'm waiting for this "play as you want". I still have a hope.

Umm.. your link is to the fashion mega thread, what does that have to do with harder overland content?

OMG... thank you...

LannStone · November 2021

I've soloed more than a dozen normal dungeons and don't think dungeons were really designed to tell much a story - I think the point is more the challenge of getting through them and a possible reward for killing the bosses. Being able to do them solo is a reward in itself, a payoff for building up you character, gear and skills.

xeNNNNN · November 2021

LannStone wrote: »

I've soloed more than a dozen normal dungeons and don't think dungeons were really designed to tell much a story - I think the point is more the challenge of getting through them and a possible reward for killing the bosses. Being able to do them solo is a reward in itself, a payoff for building up you character, gear and skills.

This is true with the newer dungeons especially. They're shorter now and they have conversation but not really much story.

There are a couple of dungeons that probably could have group mechanics turned off or something because some of them cannot be completed without doing those mechanics that require more than one person. So perhaps thats the solution, seeing as most "normal" dungeon runs never get to see a full swath of mechanics.

I mean I've been farming CoA 1 today to take advantage of the curated drops based on collections. Apart from the fact ZoS nerfed me into the ground and I lost 30k DPS since the patch hit, I can still clear it no problem.

Nanfoodle · November 2021

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Solo Players!
Have you seen this? Overland Content Feedback Thread - an official thread made by ZOS, https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/590162/overland-content-feedback-thread#latest
Those players MADE IT. Their plea for a harder overland is LISTENED TO. Why? Because they made a new topic every week! They kept fighting and now they are LISTENED TO. OFFICIALLY!

Guys. I know - you are solo players. I know you never want speak in public. I don't want it, too. But we have to.

Dear @ZOS,
Please, give us a SOLO dungeon mode so that we can learn the LORE locked behind the 4-player dungeons. Companions are of no - or little use - to help in doing some base game dungeons solo.
Companions are of no use at all in DLC dungeons. Please, dont tell us of "friends" or "guilds". I can't even do a story dungeon with my.... spouse sitting in the next room to me! We, solo players, have our... SOLO intentions! I can spend a game DAY in a Fungal Grotto 1 just roaming around! I want to roam all the dungeons like I di in FG1!

@ZOS... you lured me by promising "Play as you want" thing. I'm waiting for this "play as you want". I still have a hope.

I want this to experience the story, get my missing skill points, harvest crafting matts from baskets and bags, explore and look at these zones I never get to look st because things fly by at 140mph.

Also on story mode they could teach the bosses mechanics and that would help the community.

I don't want solo mode, I want story mode so you can do this with friends and RP in these dungeons, do the quests together.

LyraEmber · November 2021

Personally, I cant imagine buying an MMO, and then actively trying to dodge playing with other players, to the point where you are requesting the MMO be changed to accommodate.

BretonMage · November 2021

Kwoung wrote: »

No offense, but if you are leading the charge to spam the forums with multiple threads on the same subject daily... I do not wish you any luck at all. I find this to be a highly annoying practice, which is generally carried out by a very vocal minority trying to get their way, and it tends to ruin the forums for everyone.

To be fair, we don't know if it's a just a minority until we obtain everyone's opinion, and posting just one or two threads on the official forums will only reach a minute portion of the ESO population.

I can understand the backlash to asking people to spam the forums, and so if there are more acceptable ways to find out how much support this idea has, I'd be all for it.

I remember these threads from a few years ago before my hiatus, and there were definitely many people who supported this idea, myself included.

Miragent · November 2021

LyraEmber wrote: »

Personally, I cant imagine buying an MMO, and then actively trying to dodge playing with other players, to the point where you are requesting the MMO be changed to accommodate.

Then try to imagine spamming dungeons with group for achievements and/or gear no problem while aslo *gasp* daring to want to enjoy to the fullest (and by fullest I mean alone because reading a book too is a solo activity regardless of how social you are) all the writing, voice acting, art, lore bits that are already there but must be ignored etc JUST ONCE (or maybe make it repeatable option - why not if a particular story is especially compelling). Have you noticed the hundreds of ingame books and thousands of notes as well as all the solo quests? In an MMO! Oh no! Read an ingame book, and you'll never ever join a group activity - is that how you think it works? What makes you think that people who want story mode don't run dungeons in group mode? Why must one exclude the other?

Fabi95 · November 2021

Honestly, it would be great if the newer DLC dungeons would not forcefully require 3 - 4 people for the pressure plate mechanics with secret bosses. I learned to love Elder Scrolls Online for the co-op dungeon experience (with two people) when I started, the base game dungeons have been a real blast and cool with that. Without the secret bosses, some of the DLC dungeons are highly difficult. And it's already difficult just to play as a team of two. I do wish this will be reconsidered to make this friendlier for people who play group dungeons as a co-op experience.

monkeypunch1987 · November 2021

I'm all-in for a solo-mode!

Kwoung · November 2021

BretonMage wrote: »

Kwoung wrote: »

No offense, but if you are leading the charge to spam the forums with multiple threads on the same subject daily... I do not wish you any luck at all. I find this to be a highly annoying practice, which is generally carried out by a very vocal minority trying to get their way, and it tends to ruin the forums for everyone.

To be fair, we don't know if it's a just a minority until we obtain everyone's opinion, and posting just one or two threads on the official forums will only reach a minute portion of the ESO population.

I can understand the backlash to asking people to spam the forums, and so if there are more acceptable ways to find out how much support this idea has, I'd be all for it.

I remember these threads from a few years ago before my hiatus, and there were definitely many people who supported this idea, myself included.

I was mostly referring to his original post, that considered the fact the very vocal and spamming overland hard mode minority got a post pinned was a win. Now he is asking for the same behavior in order to get his request heard. I think the fact that the devs pinned it just to calm the forums down and stop the spam... not because they actually care or are listening, was completely overlooked in his assessment. I mean, they literally said that in the first couple lines of the pinned thread, well not the not caring part, they would never say that, but I would put money down they never respond in that thread again, unless it gets flamey.

As for the actual request, I feel about the same for this as I do for the overland hard mode thing. Fix the broken stuff that affects a huge portion of the game, before working on anything a niche group of players would like to see happen. I am not for or against it, but I would not like to see any dev time put in on it until more pressing matters are addressed. Once that happens, more and different modes of play are always a good thing, as long as they don't break the game or add bugs to achieve them.

NerfSeige · November 2021

You know what, I'm in favor of this cause even if you can solo normal dungeons, you still need other people in some mechanics. I'd like it if there's a mode where you can do even the side bosses without the help of others.

Ippokrates · November 2021

But most of dungeons are already soloable. Sure, sometimes it gets tricky, like FG2 or WS2 but good player can handle it.

I think only stuff like Direfrost and Imperial Prison should be changed - these kinds of locks are really pointless and annoying.

Muttsmutt · November 2021

agreed.
when you are not grouped, implement some means of circumventing group mechanics.
i.e. if you're not grouped & you stand on one of two pressure plates, the other activates automatically.

that's all that's necessary, really.
besides forced group mechanics, everything is solo mode if you've got the ability.

Lady_Galadhiel · November 2021

More group mechanics not less,so people actually have to play together.There is enough solo content what you can play on your own,even most dungeons you can solo except 5.
This is an MMO not a single player RPG.

baconoverlord · November 2021

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Solo Players!
Have you seen this? Overland Content Feedback Thread - an official thread made by ZOS, https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/590162/overland-content-feedback-thread#latest
Those players MADE IT. Their plea for a harder overland is LISTENED TO. Why? Because they made a new topic every week! They kept fighting and now they are LISTENED TO. OFFICIALLY!

Guys. I know - you are solo players. I know you never want speak in public. I don't want it, too. But we have to.

Dear @ZOS,
Please, give us a SOLO dungeon mode so that we can learn the LORE locked behind the 4-player dungeons. Companions are of no - or little use - to help in doing some base game dungeons solo.
Companions are of no use at all in DLC dungeons. Please, dont tell us of "friends" or "guilds". I can't even do a story dungeon with my.... spouse sitting in the next room to me! We, solo players, have our... SOLO intentions! I can spend a game DAY in a Fungal Grotto 1 just roaming around! I want to roam all the dungeons like I di in FG1!

@ZOS... you lured me by promising "Play as you want" thing. I'm waiting for this "play as you want". I still have a hope.

This.

The game is basically single player as it is. Having to group with people is actually a pain sometimes.

Why not have a solo version of dungeons? That sounds fantastic. Then we can actually take our time instead of the insecure people trying to have a race against each other to the end.

Treeshka · November 2021

Not needed due to nature of the game.

huntgod_ESO · November 2021

Most of the dungeons are already solo-able so not even sure what you are asking for?

baconoverlord · November 2021

huntgod_ESO wrote: »

Most of the dungeons are already solo-able so not even sure what you are asking for?

If you think the dungeons are soloable then I think you're mistaking "dungeon" for "delve" or "public dungeon".