hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

Xebov wrote: »

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

Xebov wrote: »

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

I need 2 sets of jorvuld jewelry, but I already got them in the sticker book.

So thx for the bloody new drop system joevuld Necklace and rings won't even have the freaking chance to drop until I run scp 20+ times getting useless weapons just to complete sticker book.

And wait, I need drakes jewelries too, and guess what? Now I have to run BDV 18, yes, 18 times minimum for jewelries to start dropping

Wait..oh no, I need medusa jewelry and tzogvin jewelry too, fetching fetch.

Don't tell me to reconstruct either, purple plating is 60k per piece.

Can you like, make curated drops a toggle in the settings or something? I don't want garbage weapons, I want purple jewelry.

Before this change you had a 1/45 chance of getting a specific piece, which meant you could run this for a week non stop and not get a second ring to drop. Thats the reason why the printing system was introduced.

The price for purple platings is not an issue at all, given how easy you can get money in the game.

It was not, final boss had 50% chance of dropping a jewelry, 50% a weapon

The sheer amount of weapons i frequently got let me doubt that assumtion.

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

WildLight wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

WildLight wrote: »

And here I thought nobody can come up with the reason to complain about a system that should reduce the grind efforts. But forums never cease to amaze. :^)

It's rude to make light of others concern for this issue

It's not an issue. OP deliberately refuses to use reconstruction option available to them which would solve it instantly. As was noted above, curated or not, jewelry drops are not guaranteed anyway. Ask group mates, loot the chests, kill all mobs. None of this is affected by curated drops. People just like to complain about most ridiculous things.

1 purple plating is 65k+ on PCNA

3 plating to upgrade blue to purple

2 rings and 1 necklace

65k x 3 × 3 = 585000

585000 gold to get a full set of purple jewelries, assuming the new drop system won't rise the price of platings of course.

And thats a problem why exactly? How many of these sets do you plan to make?

6 magdps

Kinras, AV and tzogvin will be meta

Kinras, AV and tzogvin are medium/heavy armor

54 piece of jewelry

See what I'm getting at?

It's just magdps I'm talking about btw. And only 3 sets. You can have up to 18 characters.

So essentially its an issue for you because you feel the need of making duplicate copies for each character instead of sharing sets between characters and you dont have the income or organization needed to back this up.

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

WildLight wrote: »

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

WildLight wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

WildLight wrote: »

And here I thought nobody can come up with the reason to complain about a system that should reduce the grind efforts. But forums never cease to amaze. :^)

It's rude to make light of others concern for this issue

It's not an issue. OP deliberately refuses to use reconstruction option available to them which would solve it instantly. As was noted above, curated or not, jewelry drops are not guaranteed anyway. Ask group mates, loot the chests, kill all mobs. None of this is affected by curated drops. People just like to complain about most ridiculous things.

1 purple plating is 65k+ on PCNA

3 plating to upgrade blue to purple

2 rings and 1 necklace

65k x 3 × 3 = 585000

585000 gold to get a full set of purple jewelries, assuming the new drop system won't rise the price of platings of course.

And? It's your choice to not use it still. How is it new system's fault?

I swear, you can never please this community. Transmutes were introduced, set collections were introduced, fixed drops were introduced - and people still find ways to be unhappy.

[snip] For most people that's a lot of gold. Their concern is valid.

The problem is not the amount of gold. The problem is that some players start gearing up endless amounts of characters without building up the logistics to back this up or find ways to save some gold by clever management simply because they are to lazy to do so and then create the "its to much gold" issue.

If i take OP for example. He needs the same 3 purple jewelry sets for each of his 6 mag dps characters, which means he has each set 6 times. The purple platings for this are ~10.5 million gold. Printing the items would be 1350 crystals.
If he would use an addon to share one setup between his 6 characters he could drop this cost down to ~1.75 million and 225 crystals.
If he would turn his 6 characters into crafters and do daily crafting for ~20mins each day he could earn 1.5-2 million a week, which means he takes 5-6 weeks to earn the money and patches are 12-14 weeks appart. In this case he would always have the backup money needed to do these things easily.
So there are ways to either gear characters smart to save money or implement propper logistics to get possible amounts of money fairly easy to support this play style. The issue is mostly created out of a tunnel experience where players want to play a certain way and dont want to invest in propper management.

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OK nothing says that you won't get your jewelry pieces. The curated system adds weight to the drops you don't have. It does NOT guarantee your drop. So there is a chance that a duplicate drop will occur.

kmcaj wrote: »

No thanks. Many easy available ways to bypass OP's problem. Looking forward to finally getting a weapon that I've been trying for for 2+ years.

Just ran nCoA2 and got the BSW Inferno... was beginning to wonder if it existed lol.
Gotta have ran this dungeon 100+ times in the last 6 months, finally I has it!

Well, at least for me, the system isn't working. Ran 2 random dungeons, got 2/12 new sets. Yayyy.

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

Xebov wrote: »

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

I need 2 sets of jorvuld jewelry, but I already got them in the sticker book.

So thx for the bloody new drop system joevuld Necklace and rings won't even have the freaking chance to drop until I run scp 20+ times getting useless weapons just to complete sticker book.

And wait, I need drakes jewelries too, and guess what? Now I have to run BDV 18, yes, 18 times minimum for jewelries to start dropping

Wait..oh no, I need medusa jewelry and tzogvin jewelry too, fetching fetch.

Don't tell me to reconstruct either, purple plating is 60k per piece.

Can you like, make curated drops a toggle in the settings or something? I don't want garbage weapons, I want purple jewelry.

Before this change you had a 1/45 chance of getting a specific piece, which meant you could run this for a week non stop and not get a second ring to drop. Thats the reason why the printing system was introduced.

The price for purple platings is not an issue at all, given how easy you can get money in the game.

It was not, final boss had 50% chance of dropping a jewelry, 50% a weapon.

And with the new system, if I need a second ring, i have to kill the final boss 30+ times collecting everything for even the chance to drop

Which meant I can run this for a month and still have near 0% chance of getting my purple ring

There was no 50% chance to get a ring lmao, theres like 39 different weapons from 3 sets that could drop in a dungeon, and 6 different jewelry pieces from 3 sets... so you have a 6 out of 45 chance and only a 1 out of 45 chance that it would even drop the ring from the set you specifically want...

Using that math you had a 13% chance of getting any jewelry and a 2% chance of getting the jewelry piece you needed... hell it would only be a 16% chance of getting the right jewelry if ONLY jewelry dropped lol

I don't understand what the complaint issue is - not making light of OPs concerns, but seems to be that:

a) before curated drops - boss and arena reward chest = pure RNG (*specific to OPs concerns, may or may not get 2nd jewelry drop of something already got, purely random luck)

b) after curated drops - weighted towards non-collected items first (*assuming no bugs and working correctly), so in OP's example it is true won't get 2nd ring/necklace of something already collected...BUT...will now finish full collection much faster -and- once full set if collected there is no more weighting, will have same chance to get 2nd copy of anything collected same as old system

So OP's issue seems a temporary condition - e.g. it is true until full set is collected that getting 2nd copy will be harder (not impossible, just need to get via non-weighted drops from chests) but seems best of both worlds - unlike former RNG running dungeons dozens and for some hundreds of times and missing 1-2 items, now will complete full set just as function of time - then can get all the copies you want.

TLDR - what OP wants is already in the game (e.g. turn off curation system) - the way to turn it 'off' is simply finish the full collection which will now be much faster and easier due to giving you missing pieces first.

We traded about 10 different horrible grinds for one little problem, where you are going to be out 25 crystals and 3 purple plates. This new rng is the best thing to happen to this game. Everything is dead all over the place because of pent up rng rage. People are running content and looking for partners.

Sorry it's not perfect in every tiny way, but it's freaking top notch awesomesauce with extra awesome.

Because jewelry dropped so much before I had given up on every completing dungeon sets. I'm now part of the pent up rng rage group killing everything in every type of content. Big time home run for the devs here.

This is going to make it hard to collect two of any rings for any new dungeons in future

No.

WildLight wrote: »

And here I thought nobody can come up with the reason to complain about a system that should reduce the grind efforts. But forums never cease to amaze. :^)

I am fully convinced that some will step up to oppose any suggestion, no matter how good.

hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »

BloodyStigmata wrote: »

No.

Why not? I just want a toggle

You are not losing anything

You know what? That is true. They could add that you help you out.

But let's assume they add your option. Realistically speaking, that feature would likely be added in the next large patch, so sometime in February or March?

By the time that rolls around, you could have completed the dungeon far more than enough times to get back to original RNG, but at that point, you could use the nifty reconstruction option to never have to worry about it again.

Or, during that time, you could just reconstruct it at increased cost if you're really impatient--do a handful of random normals to get your crystals, and you'd roughly have done the same amount of dungeons it would have taken you originally to get the jewelry pieces you needed.

So even if you get what you want, objectively speaking, by complaining about it here instead of getting a move on, you're wasting time.