xylena_lazarow wrote: »Faction stacks are still unstoppable, and proper ballgroups are still unkillable.
HowellQagan wrote: »I'm waiting for the next feature update when they nerf it, ain't gonna PvP until then.
the dark convergence set needs to be buffed in damage as well as Grab ability to zergs to be stronger as we can see that many zergs are escaping it
xylena_lazarow wrote: »
this thread has a toxic taste that is unfair and just plain not the truth of how the majority of eso pvp players feel.
reading the comments and the thread title gives the impression that anyone using the set needs to be ashamed and feel bad, but that is just not the truth seen in pvp and pvp zone chat as well as the guilds im a member of.
theres nothing wrong with using this set in both pvp and pve.
the set was made because we asked for help to stop zergs and hoards of people blobbing together, the set works good and doing its job.
the set was made to stop zergs and huge groups that are cause massive lagg, high ping, and destroying the pvp in cryodiil.
the set needs buffed, not nerfed.
it needs to stay.
Absolute Best design ever made, Especially for an mmo that has horrible ball zerg groups like eso.
its perfect for fighting the zergs here in eso.
the dark convergence set needs to be buffed in damage as well as Grab ability to zergs to be stronger as we can see that many zergs are escaping it. they simply run through its grab somehow and that needs to be buffed to make sure it keeps working as was intended and spoken about it the patch notes.
is it possible that the only people angry about this set are the ones in zergs and large groups that it is intended for?
i dont know, but i can assure you that it does what we asked for when it works as it should.
and again my comments and feedback here is only just that, my feedback, not intended to anger anyone.
"After a hard week of farming, or a long night of being nagged by your wife, there is nothing better than going out for a bit of a fish."
this thread has a toxic taste that is unfair and just plain not the truth of how the majority of eso pvp players feel.
reading the comments and the thread title gives the impression that anyone using the set needs to be ashamed and feel bad, but that is just not the truth seen in pvp and pvp zone chat as well as the guilds im a member of.
theres nothing wrong with using this set in both pvp and pve.
the set was made because we asked for help to stop zergs and hoards of people blobbing together, the set works good and doing its job.
the set was made to stop zergs and huge groups that are cause massive lagg, high ping, and destroying the pvp in cryodiil.
the set needs buffed, not nerfed.
it needs to stay.
Absolute Best design ever made, Especially for an mmo that has horrible ball zerg groups like eso.
its perfect for fighting the zergs here in eso.
the dark convergence set needs to be buffed in damage as well as Grab ability to zergs to be stronger as we can see that many zergs are escaping it. they simply run through its grab somehow and that needs to be buffed to make sure it keeps working as was intended and spoken about it the patch notes.
is it possible that the only people angry about this set are the ones in zergs and large groups that it is intended for?
i dont know, but i can assure you that it does what we asked for when it works as it should.
and again my comments and feedback here is only just that, my feedback, not intended to anger anyone.
Is this a satirical comment?
this thread has a toxic taste that is unfair and just plain not the truth of how the majority of eso pvp players feel.
reading the comments and the thread title gives the impression that anyone using the set needs to be ashamed and feel bad, but that is just not the truth seen in pvp and pvp zone chat as well as the guilds im a member of.
theres nothing wrong with using this set in both pvp and pve.
the set was made because we asked for help to stop zergs and hoards of people blobbing together, the set works good and doing its job.
the set was made to stop zergs and huge groups that are cause massive lagg, high ping, and destroying the pvp in cryodiil.
the set needs buffed, not nerfed.
it needs to stay.
Absolute Best design ever made, Especially for an mmo that has horrible ball zerg groups like eso.
its perfect for fighting the zergs here in eso.
the dark convergence set needs to be buffed in damage as well as Grab ability to zergs to be stronger as we can see that many zergs are escaping it. they simply run through its grab somehow and that needs to be buffed to make sure it keeps working as was intended and spoken about it the patch notes.
is it possible that the only people angry about this set are the ones in zergs and large groups that it is intended for?
i dont know, but i can assure you that it does what we asked for when it works as it should.
and again my comments and feedback here is only just that, my feedback, not intended to anger anyone.
Is this a satirical comment? There has been a lot of horrible ideas released in eso, and this is the worse ever set forth onto live servers...the set is a crutch, a one button carry that though it may be effective against zergs, it is also employed by zergs to chase and group down solo and small groups with the simplicity of one click each.....want to make fighting faction stacks and ball groups easier? bring back no out of group healing and limit group sizes even further.....or just keep on introducing sets that are game breakers and cause an already dwindling population of pvpers to leave the game.....I will end by saying it is ok if you want to use the set, it is your game play as you will.....but to ignore the reality of what that set is and to actually call for it to be buffed is pretty wild.....
"After a hard week of farming, or a long night of being nagged by your wife, there is nothing better than going out for a bit of a fish."
its not satire, its not a sarcasm, its not funny, infact it is very embarrassing that new people come to eso and find massive groups destroying the pvp and game.
we asked for help in stopping the zergs, we got help with this set "dark convergence"
However, they leaders of these groups has found a way around the set and the set is no longer stoping them, they just run right through it and are not being effected by the set now.
the. set. needs. its radius increased and the damage increased to help stop the zergs. thats not a joke, its not satire.
its just plain honest truth and honest feedback.
the. set. needs. its radius increased and the damage increased to help stop the zergs. thats not a joke, its not satire.
its just plain honest truth and honest feedback.
this thread has a toxic taste that is unfair and just plain not the truth of how the majority of eso pvp players feel.
reading the comments and the thread title gives the impression that anyone using the set needs to be ashamed and feel bad, but that is just not the truth seen in pvp and pvp zone chat as well as the guilds im a member of.
theres nothing wrong with using this set in both pvp and pve.
the set was made because we asked for help to stop zergs and hoards of people blobbing together, the set works good and doing its job.
the set was made to stop zergs and huge groups that are cause massive lagg, high ping, and destroying the pvp in cryodiil.
the set needs buffed, not nerfed.
it needs to stay.
Absolute Best design ever made, Especially for an mmo that has horrible ball zerg groups like eso.
its perfect for fighting the zergs here in eso.
the dark convergence set needs to be buffed in damage as well as Grab ability to zergs to be stronger as we can see that many zergs are escaping it. they simply run through its grab somehow and that needs to be buffed to make sure it keeps working as was intended and spoken about it the patch notes.
is it possible that the only people angry about this set are the ones in zergs and large groups that it is intended for?
i dont know, but i can assure you that it does what we asked for when it works as it should.
and again my comments and feedback here is only just that, my feedback, not intended to anger anyone.
Is this a satirical comment? There has been a lot of horrible ideas released in eso, and this is the worse ever set forth onto live servers...the set is a crutch, a one button carry that though it may be effective against zergs, it is also employed by zergs to chase and group down solo and small groups with the simplicity of one click each.....want to make fighting faction stacks and ball groups easier? bring back no out of group healing and limit group sizes even further.....or just keep on introducing sets that are game breakers and cause an already dwindling population of pvpers to leave the game.....I will end by saying it is ok if you want to use the set, it is your game play as you will.....but to ignore the reality of what that set is and to actually call for it to be buffed is pretty wild.....
its not satire, its not a sarcasm, its not funny, infact it is very embarrassing that new people come to eso and find massive groups destroying the pvp and game.
we asked for help in stopping the zergs, we got help with this set "dark convergence"
However, they leaders of these groups has found a way around the set and the set is no longer stoping them, they just run right through it and are not being effected by the set now.
the. set. needs. its radius increased and the damage increased to help stop the zergs. thats not a joke, its not satire.
its just plain honest truth and honest feedback.
this thread has a toxic taste that is unfair and just plain not the truth of how the majority of eso pvp players feel.
reading the comments and the thread title gives the impression that anyone using the set needs to be ashamed and feel bad, but that is just not the truth seen in pvp and pvp zone chat as well as the guilds im a member of.
theres nothing wrong with using this set in both pvp and pve.
the set was made because we asked for help to stop zergs and hoards of people blobbing together, the set works good and doing its job.
the set was made to stop zergs and huge groups that are cause massive lagg, high ping, and destroying the pvp in cryodiil.
the set needs buffed, not nerfed.
it needs to stay.
Absolute Best design ever made, Especially for an mmo that has horrible ball zerg groups like eso.
its perfect for fighting the zergs here in eso.
the dark convergence set needs to be buffed in damage as well as Grab ability to zergs to be stronger as we can see that many zergs are escaping it. they simply run through its grab somehow and that needs to be buffed to make sure it keeps working as was intended and spoken about it the patch notes.
is it possible that the only people angry about this set are the ones in zergs and large groups that it is intended for?
i dont know, but i can assure you that it does what we asked for when it works as it should.
and again my comments and feedback here is only just that, my feedback, not intended to anger anyone.
Is this a satirical comment? There has been a lot of horrible ideas released in eso, and this is the worse ever set forth onto live servers...the set is a crutch, a one button carry that though it may be effective against zergs, it is also employed by zergs to chase and group down solo and small groups with the simplicity of one click each.....want to make fighting faction stacks and ball groups easier? bring back no out of group healing and limit group sizes even further.....or just keep on introducing sets that are game breakers and cause an already dwindling population of pvpers to leave the game.....I will end by saying it is ok if you want to use the set, it is your game play as you will.....but to ignore the reality of what that set is and to actually call for it to be buffed is pretty wild.....
its not satire, its not a sarcasm, its not funny, infact it is very embarrassing that new people come to eso and find massive groups destroying the pvp and game.
we asked for help in stopping the zergs, we got help with this set "dark convergence"
However, they leaders of these groups has found a way around the set and the set is no longer stoping them, they just run right through it and are not being effected by the set now.
the. set. needs. its radius increased and the damage increased to help stop the zergs. thats not a joke, its not satire.
its just plain honest truth and honest feedback.
I'm sorry but whatever you're given, whatever things are buffed, a ball group will be able to use 12 times more effectively due to numbers. And the day it is no longer profitable to group up for whatever reason the ball groups won't give a [snip]. They'll just continue coordinating in voice chat and stay together like they always do. Numbers and coordination mean everything in this game, and sets like Dark Convergence have only made the situation worse for the people the devs designed the set for.
Wow lucky you 2 days after this set was released, I have not been in an BG without it on at least one person if not more. Dark Convergence should not be allowed in BG’s if it was designed to stop ball groups in Cyrodill what it is doing in BG’s anyway.Thread on the ESO sub-Reddit entitled "Just played a BG without anyone running Dark convergence and actually had an enjoyable PVP experience"
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/q5wr8j/just_played_a_bg_without_anyone_running_dark/
Wow lucky you 2 days after this set was released, I have not been in an BG without it on at least one person if not more. Dark Convergence should not be allowed in BG’s if it was designed to stop ball groups in Cyrodill what it is doing in BG’s anyway.Thread on the ESO sub-Reddit entitled "Just played a BG without anyone running Dark convergence and actually had an enjoyable PVP experience"
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/q5wr8j/just_played_a_bg_without_anyone_running_dark/
Stay safe and enjoy the journey
this thread has a toxic taste that is unfair and just plain not the truth of how the majority of eso pvp players feel.
reading the comments and the thread title gives the impression that anyone using the set needs to be ashamed and feel bad, but that is just not the truth seen in pvp and pvp zone chat as well as the guilds im a member of.
theres nothing wrong with using this set in both pvp and pve.
the set was made because we asked for help to stop zergs and hoards of people blobbing together, the set works good and doing its job.
the set was made to stop zergs and huge groups that are cause massive lagg, high ping, and destroying the pvp in cryodiil.
the set needs buffed, not nerfed.
it needs to stay.
Absolute Best design ever made, Especially for an mmo that has horrible ball zerg groups like eso.
its perfect for fighting the zergs here in eso.
the dark convergence set needs to be buffed in damage as well as Grab ability to zergs to be stronger as we can see that many zergs are escaping it. they simply run through its grab somehow and that needs to be buffed to make sure it keeps working as was intended and spoken about it the patch notes.
is it possible that the only people angry about this set are the ones in zergs and large groups that it is intended for?
i dont know, but i can assure you that it does what we asked for when it works as it should.
and again my comments and feedback here is only just that, my feedback, not intended to anger anyone.
Is this a satirical comment? There has been a lot of horrible ideas released in eso, and this is the worse ever set forth onto live servers...the set is a crutch, a one button carry that though it may be effective against zergs, it is also employed by zergs to chase and group down solo and small groups with the simplicity of one click each.....want to make fighting faction stacks and ball groups easier? bring back no out of group healing and limit group sizes even further.....or just keep on introducing sets that are game breakers and cause an already dwindling population of pvpers to leave the game.....I will end by saying it is ok if you want to use the set, it is your game play as you will.....but to ignore the reality of what that set is and to actually call for it to be buffed is pretty wild.....
its not satire, its not a sarcasm, its not funny, infact it is very embarrassing that new people come to eso and find massive groups destroying the pvp and game.
we asked for help in stopping the zergs, we got help with this set "dark convergence"
However, they leaders of these groups has found a way around the set and the set is no longer stoping them, they just run right through it and are not being effected by the set now.
the. set. needs. its radius increased and the damage increased to help stop the zergs. thats not a joke, its not satire.
its just plain honest truth and honest feedback.
I'm sorry but whatever you're given, whatever things are buffed, a ball group will be able to use 12 times more effectively due to numbers. And the day it is no longer profitable to group up for whatever reason the ball groups won't give a [snip]. They'll just continue coordinating in voice chat and stay together like they always do. Numbers and coordination mean everything in this game, and sets like Dark Convergence have only made the situation worse for the people the devs designed the set for.
For perspective, I make that statement in the subject line after 15 years of playing MMORPGs and PVP in particular. And it's a long list of games.
Anyone who has played more than a handful of BGs the past several weeks can attest to what a bad experience it is playing with DCs procs going off regularly throughout a BG.
The problem with DC is it's faceroll easy to be effective with it, because it creates a 3-4 second window where
1. the affected players get pulled, which is disruptive in itself. Plus they get stunned and snared
2. the affected players have to stop whatever they're doing to get out of it, due to the proc's damage and other incoming enemy damage
3. the allies of the caster can free DPS on the affected targets or have a significant window to recover
Abilities or procs that AOE pull multiple targets are powerful in and of themselves. But to throw on any meaningful damage on top of that is simply unneeded. Back in WAR, the Magus / Engineer mirror class had an AOE pull. But it did no meaningful damage in itself, because that wasn't needed.
I just logged off after 2 consecutive BGs where a premade (from my guild) was using DC and wiping opposing teams, despite facing PUGs they would have easily beat. I was solo queued, and I watched multiple players in both games leave the BGs. I don't blame them. I don't blame my guild, either, since they don't control the game content. There is only 1 entity that is capable of fixing the problem, but it's taking way too long IMO.
I struggle to understand why it has not been patched yet. This is such a bad time to have such a frustrating PVP experience, especially when players are wondering whether the grass is greener in the other new game that has a combat style that is most similar to ESO, relative to other MMORPGs. I have been a diehard loyalist and advocate of ESO (and up until this morning was not meaningfully considering trying out the other option), but even I have my limits.
P.S. I absolutely love ESO's combat and build system. I just despise mechanically toxic sets. And it's immensely frustrating to watch this persist for 6 weeks.