Nameplates are VITAL for the gameplay, add them back.

Ungard · April 2014

Holy Hell, I read everyone of these posts...Thank you Jim Beam for getting me through it.

Great arguments on both sides. I am OLD....I have played MMOS for years..DAOC was my first one...and I put 5 years into it. I was 29 when I first started playing it. I am 43 now and have played about everything.

I never understood the the pull of WOW for so many players other than it was easy mode. (God bless Blizzard they made billions off that game but it was not cool and it was based on single player games from the early 90's.

This game is different than any MMO I have ever touched, they have done an incredible job mixing the classes up, I love the ideas and innovation. I am currently playing a sorc. I can tank, I can heal and I can cast, I can wear heavy armor doing it and my spells are instant.. that is amazing to me and a fantastic change.

When I started I hated the limited quick bars..what was trying to be accomplished and I embrace them. I think it is the best idea ever...every load out is going to be different..no cookie cutter specs.

I however have found myself feeling like I am playing Guild Wars all over again. I don't have a clue who is next to me most of the time..I am in a huge guild..I can't represent them. And when it comes time to PVP...and that time is rapidly approaching, I can not represent my guild. I HATE that you are allowed to be in five guilds. What is the point? I HATE that I cant represent my guild, not my guild plus 4 others..

Guild Cloaks have been done before...where are they? Where are the cloaks in general? The chat system is small and it sucks..If I have the option to turn off zone chat..why don't I have I the option to have my name on and have someone actually see what I say when they are five feet from me.

If you tell me there is a yell option I would tell you anyone that yells is a jackass and I would ignore you anyway.

An MMO is always about meeting new people..period. It is a great escape from life and I love to meet new people. Those of you that talk about finding guys behind rocks and trees because of nameplates...don't have a clue what you are talking about. I played a stealther for years.. if the game is truly that messed up that is a design flaw and you suck at PVP.

This game is still in its first stages and Bethsada usually does everything right. Not giving a player a choice for standard options will make me quit paying for this game. If you guys that don't want them and think it will ruin game play can come up with a valid reason I would love to hear it. I will give it a few months and see.

Dylan · April 2014

Ungard wrote: »

Not giving a player a choice for standard options will make me quit paying for this game.

I feel the exact same way. The game is great but the shallow social aspects is the downfall of ESO.

Kelsaik · April 2014

Nameplates aswell as a minimap where already implemented months ago @PTS. Both causes several serverdowns and massiv Lag @Large PvP Battles. Aswell as some other major problems. Duo to the fact that Nameplates cause massiv Lagg they disabled it forever untill they find a way to reduce the problem whe had last time.

Eliran · April 2014

Anyway guess we are being ignored, good luck!

Armoril · April 2014

You can aim at any player, and their name will appear at the top of your screen. Do you really need to be able to read it in TWO places on your screen? I don't.

Turrican · April 2014

Eliran wrote: »

As said above, the nameplates are VITAL for the game, I don't understand why would you ignore such a majority of the player base?

I don't accept the excuse of immersion, its just stupid, I believe that MANY MORE will simply quit eventually without such feature.

Its like ZeniMax on purpose want the game to fall down, the game has HUGE potential, it is obviouslly 10 times better than WoW but those small things which prevent you from having social life in the game are going to be its downfall.

It is NOT fun to play alone.

We feel like running around empty shells, I can't even recall who is next to me, I haven't made a single friend around as I can't communicate with ANYONE AROUND ME and therefore I haven't made a single new friend so far who I didn't knew before the game launched.

More further, the idea of that I have to run after someone just to ask for help in order to whisper them, people IGNORE /say/yell, check statistics and I believe 98% of the players don't even use them as their 100% useless if you don't know who around of all the empty shells said them.

For example:
I had a problem with some Quest, I wanted to ask for help and I found my self running after at least 6 people in order to be close enough to them to even ask them to help me out but I failed and had to wait for another guy to do the quest as well in order to achieve it and even then without saying a single word to each other, not just it DOES NOT reflect any real life element, its make the game look lonely and robotic.

Do not ignore us and add the feature back as soon as possible, every day cause damage to the majority of the players.

You realise that if you just point your cursor at another player it will show their name? Oh you do know but are too lazy? Ok. How ridiculous.

dave.g.mooreub17_ESO · April 2014

God yes please put in nameplates or allow Modders to fix this gross oversight. Everyone looks like a mob in this game. Can't tell you how many times someone has run up to me and started to attack me. And just having health bars up is no help, as the targeting is so buggy half the time when I try to look at a player it just says rat or squirrel or whatever person I looked at last.

This is such a simple thing I cannot believe it was left out. If you are so freaked about it make it an option that can be turned off.

Whats the deal?

Covarnis · April 2014

While I agree on the improvement of social tools, which can be done in several ways (and probably ill be done) - after playing a month now - I can completely confirm, that no nameplates is actually an amazing thing.

I think some people want them, because they are used having them. Because it's a standard. It needs a fix if it doesn't exist.

Well, it's not only immersion. It's something else. You have to get deeper. You have to look at the persons armour. Look at person and decide whether you want to deal with him/her. What's wrong with that? You focus on one name at a time. I think nameplates in the end have very little relation to social aspects of the game. You just have to question things you take for granted.

When you think about it, there is no serious examples why nameplates improve social gameplay, and what you can't really do with the current targeting system. I have had "real life" examples where it actually contributed towards better social feelings and action for me.

Things like immersion, not seeing horrible names all over the place etc, as well as UI minimalism - it's amazing in the end. It's my opinion of course. However I would like to see it remaining as a standard of the game UI design. In example, I'm pretty sure I'm getting less ninja-invites (without whisper beforehand - which is completely anti-social behaviour) in this game than anywhere else, and absence of nameplates contribute towards that. If you want to interact with players you can easily do that, by looking into each one of them around you, deciding whom to contact, sending message, potentially grouping. You might be spending more time on that, but that also means you also spend more time seeing if another player you want to contact would fit (armour, class, name, weapon) you...

torstenb16_ESO8 · April 2014

Eso ist the first mmo where you can sneak and hide, problem is that nameplate over your heads will destroy sneaking and hiding, so it makes me playing eso in pvp senseless,also this game. There are lots of add ons where you can see nameplates into the chart, that must be enough. Or turn them on for your group members. I played gw2 many years now, and it was senseless to hide anywhere because you saw hundrets od nameplates over there head and see enemys from hundrets of meters everywhere.In large fights you only saw nameplats and nothing else.Thats why i and my friends came here, because of the clean elder scrolls interface and hiding and sneaking without nameplates in pvp.Problem is that other will see me from hundrets of meters in pvp, seems that you not playing pvp and never saw 300 to 500 nameplates in a large battles and how it looks like when you stand in middle of 100 namepaltes.I can turn off nameplates, problem is that enemies will see me in pvp and that will destroy sneaking and hiding.
thats the problem you don't understand it seems.
If you will build in name templates for your team or group, then its ok and i can turn it on and off, but you want nameplates for all players and that will kill the game.

Lorelei · April 2014

AngersRevenge wrote: »

SuperScrubby wrote: »

Ultimately this game is still an MMO and by having things that helps facilitate communication with others is usually the best rule of thumb. If you want to play a game where you don't know who is around you, then why even pay the fee to play an mmo. You could just play a game with AI if you don't plan on interacting.

Not to mention zone chat is completely and utterly spammed by tons of people. As of right now I can't even tell people apart that are wearing heavy armor since a lot of people look similar unless they have a tail poking out. So while immersion is nice and some people value that over everything else, gotta have options for the rest of the players.

Ultimately this game is not an MMO. The word ultimately implies that it is first and formost. ZOS already said it is a TES game first and an MMO 2nd. So, ultimately, it is an Elder Scrolls game.

Yeah, well, hate to break it to them but that philosophy isn't going to make them money. There is no way you're getting away with charging a monthly sub fee for what is basically a single player game long term. The MMO part is what makes the money. You want to make money, that needs to be the priority. If not, watch the sub numbers plummet after the 90 day mark or so and then the death knell to F2P starts tolling.

I know all the TES enthusiasts don't want it to be that way but it must for the game to succeed on any massive multi-player level. If they didn't want to deal with an MMO, I'm sure it would have been easier and more cost effective to just add a multiplayer option to Skyrim so people can hang out with their friends and be done with it. You can't have it both ways. So yeah, the MMO part needs some work. Stop pretending it's not important just because YOU don't want it to be.

nemanja.mrkiceb17_ESO · April 2014

Name plates kill the spirit of adventure

Sharne · April 2014

I used to have a name-tag, but I memorized it and ate it.
I chose to not put it on display any more, because most folk know me, but if I meet new folk or even just change my mind I can get another name-tag and choose to wear it. Having the option is nice.

Zeyta · April 2014

I agree, name plates should be an option...I would definitely use them. I'm having trouble understanding the negative comments about "being lazy" and "immersion" though. If it's an OPTION and you don't want it, leave it off. At least the others who like them, can have them....all sides win.

To the OP: Ignore those that feel the need to quote you, then nit pick every single word of your post. That is ridiculous and time well wasted.

One-Winged · April 2014

Do you see people's name above their head in real life? NO, SO GET OVER IT THEN!

This thread is preposterous. There is other stuff that should be prioritized over this.

MightyToSave · April 2014

One-Winged wrote: »

Do you see people's name above their head in real life? NO, SO GET OVER IT THEN!

This thread is preposterous. There is other stuff that should be prioritized over this.

.....I do believe that ESO is a video game and not real life.

Also. Can teleport across the country in a mere moment in real life? No. So why is this feature in ESO? For convenience.

It's not VITAL, but it would be pretty darn nice to have for about half of us that play the game.

Willow · April 2014

I like the no nameplates To each their own.

Ashlynne · April 2014

staggerlee wrote: »

I sent in a feedback report in every beta phase asking them to put it in as an option the player could decide to see or not see. If people want immersion let them have it if not let them have that. Alas they still not have done it, we can hope. Oh and if they are monitoring the post, and decide to add nameplates, please let guild players names be in a different color, much easier to see if large groups.

You know what's ruining my immersion? Other people! lol

WTB a single player MMO - FTW!

ChairGraveyard · April 2014

Hell no.

This isn't WoW.

ArgonianAssassin · May 2014

I personally don't use and don't see the point in nameplates, and I prefer to not have them on when they are available, but I see no reason to not allow my fellow players the choice to enable them if they so choose.

Sunrock · May 2014

Well this is a thing that can't be left to addon it has to be done by the default UI or not. Because of PvP it would be a too much advantage to use an addon that show name plates hover over the heads that it would force every one that wants to PvP to install it. Addons can only be optional but not necessary or needed for any game play.

Blackwolfe5 · May 2014

At the very least, I'd want to be able to easily identify guildies and friends amongst a crowd!

Lynnessa · May 2014

I like it the way it is.

Betaguy · May 2014

Eliran wrote: »

As said above, the nameplates are VITAL for the game, I don't understand why would you ignore such a majority of the player base?

I don't accept the excuse of immersion, its just stupid, I believe that MANY MORE will simply quit eventually without such feature.

Its like ZeniMax on purpose want the game to fall down, the game has HUGE potential, it is obviouslly 10 times better than WoW but those small things which prevent you from having social life in the game are going to be its downfall.

It is NOT fun to play alone.

We feel like running around empty shells, I can't even recall who is next to me, I haven't made a single friend around as I can't communicate with ANYONE AROUND ME and therefore I haven't made a single new friend so far who I didn't knew before the game launched.

More further, the idea of that I have to run after someone just to ask for help in order to whisper them, people IGNORE /say/yell, check statistics and I believe 98% of the players don't even use them as their 100% useless if you don't know who around of all the empty shells said them.

For example:
I had a problem with some Quest, I wanted to ask for help and I found my self running after at least 6 people in order to be close enough to them to even ask them to help me out but I failed and had to wait for another guy to do the quest as well in order to achieve it and even then without saying a single word to each other, not just it DOES NOT reflect any real life element, its make the game look lonely and robotic.

Do not ignore us and add the feature back as soon as possible, every day cause damage to the majority of the players.

No they should not, it ruins the competitive PvP and this games end game is PvP imo. Nameplates are silly and should not be on. If they do change it they should never be allowed in Cyrodiil.

MightyToSave · May 2014

Betaguy wrote: »

No they should not, it ruins the competitive PvP and this games end game is PvP imo. Nameplates are silly and should not be on. If they do change it they should never be allowed in Cyrodiil.

How does it ruin PvP?

drowadin · May 2014

well don't forget they already have a bot program that has tracking ability and it can see all enemy targets every little bunny. So now ESO is working on tracking and banning all that have it lol cant wait to see a ban list.

beowulfsshield · May 2014

If it isn't a big issue for the devs I can't see any reason not to give players the option for nameplates, provided that the option is off by default. I personally loathe the idea of enabling nameplates, but if others are using them it doesn't affect my gameplay, so I say give them the option.

SeñorCinco · May 2014

I implement AOs to remove as much as possible from the screen. The game offers toggles for enemy bars, group arrows, alliance diamonds, fallen allies, enemy auras, lootable auras, quest givers, the chat window, the action bar.... I take advantage of all of that and turn them off. Then AO's allow me to turn off the compass and crosshair.

I wished you could turn off those stupid attack cones and areas that turn red when an enemy is about to do a power attack. I mean the game tells you it's coming, through the animation of the enemy before it comes. I don't need a game long tutorial. I get it, already. Bad guy draws back? Guess what?

Then the last thing you cannot turn off is the quest objective diamonds. I want to find them on my own. It's why I'm playing a game to start with. I don't want the chessboard to light up with the best possible move.

The only things that occasionally pop up are my character's M/H/S and the targeted name and healthbar. This game is designed with a very detailed environment and the player can react to that environment. I'm a big boy and have been for half a century. I don't need training wheels anymore.

The stealth compromise is a good argument but I could see them turning that stuff off when in stealth mode. If someone needs these things, God knows why, then give it to them. When they die, I can bask in the glory of knowing they were defeated by a real enemy that did not need a wealth of tells to assist them.

If they need it and it doesn't compromise my gameplay then by all means. With that, I fully support implementing any option no matter if I support the option itself.

Then give me the option to turn off those training ques and objective markers. You get yours and I get mine.

Mephiston87 · May 2014

there was already a several thousand number poll made on this subject showing over %80 dont want nameplates.

MightyToSave · May 2014

Mephiston87 wrote: »

there was already a several thousand number poll made on this subject showing over %80 dont want nameplates.

Was that poll from beta? This poll shows 60% in favor of nameplates, 40% against, and a lot of those who voted no said they would be okay with it being optional.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/79526/name-plate-poll-in-elder-scrolls/p1

Mephiston87 · May 2014

Its more based on 2k people being on your screen, its already hard enough to distinguish who is who. lets also completely fill your screen with 2k names plates too making them all overlap each other and completely block out the actual players everywhere. in 20VS20 or 40VS40 games sure its possible but not when there's hundreds or thousands of players on screen. cant be done.

The poll was done pre release and monstrous amount didnt want it due to those main reasons. then again i believe just after release.

In a siege there would be no ground left to see. ZOS themselves have already said in the beta there's no feasable way to introduce it without you seeing nothing else but name plates.