Anyone else want in-game voice chat?

daneyulebub17_ESO · April 2014

Team Speak, Mumble, Vent etc. are fine, but not something you want to mess with for every little 2 or 3 man group or PUG. There's always somebody who'd not set up right, can't download it, wants to use Vent instead of TS or whatever (or vice-a-versa).

An in-game audio chat that EVERYONE with a mic has access to, with basic features for small groups, would be great to make this game more group friendly. I've played other games with it, and it at least doubles the amount of time I use voice with people.

Ragnar_Lodbrok · April 2014

No, it tends to draw hard on the games servers, plus there is no need for it as 3rd party voip are far better.

SirAndy · April 2014

I'd be down for that for in-game groups. Right now, it's almost impossible to get random group members on a unified voice chat.
;-)

Malediktus · April 2014

3rd party voip is useless when you want to play with strangers via the group finder, giving strangers your TS IP and password is not really that good of an idea to me

So I would like to the an ingame VOIP

Fenbrae · April 2014

From my personal experience, in-game voice chats always tend to be ***.
Bad audio quality, audio lag, bad interfaces, that kind of stuff.

If it were to be implemented, it would have to be equally as good as any downloadable voice chat system.
Otherwise people will revert to using their third-party programs and ZOS will have wasted their time and resources implementing something useless.

Saerydoth · April 2014

In a few very limited situations it might be useful. However, WOW proved that when you add in-game voice chat that is tied to being logged into the game, noone uses it. Because you get disconnected from it when you relog, that fact right there means noone ever uses it for serious group content.

SeñorCinco · April 2014

I fully support this as I utterly detest the use of the antiquated gaming communication via chat.

I have tried to use chat when meeting someone new and by the time I get the stupid window up and get my comment typed in... they are gone.

I would have thought there to be some form of verbal communication available that is readily open to everyone around you. I don't mean a "zone" VOIP but a proximity chat that has directional cones and is volume controlled against the distance of the other character.

3rd party programs, while a means of a workaround, cannot substitute to an in-game VOIP feature.

daneyulebub17_ESO · April 2014

LOTRO has it, it works well. True, no Raid uses it, but it's used a lot for casual groups, PUGs, and just quick, no frills chatting with someone.

I don't do WoW, but I've heard it's game chat is just terribly implemented.

I agree with the poster up-thread who said it's often a huge pain to casually group or do a PUG when there's so many standards. A common standard in-game would solve that, and make pick up groups and casual grouping much more likely to have people actually using voice in my opinion.

Estwing · April 2014

I would rather have ZOS spend their time on actual game content and updates. They added this to WoW years ago and no one ever used it and they spent a huge amount of time and resources on adding it.

daneyulebub17_ESO · April 2014

Saerydoth wrote: »

In a few very limited situations it might be useful. However, WOW proved that when you add in-game voice chat that is tied to being logged into the game, noone uses it. Because you get disconnected from it when you relog, that fact right there means noone ever uses it for serious group content.

I wouldn't say WoW proved noone uses it, because there are other games where it is used quite a bit--Lotro being one. And yeah--serious group content--raids, and grouping with your guild, it would be used less. This is mainly for easy, casual, standardized voice chat to make the game more hospitable to socializing out of your core group and without going out of the game to fiddle around with things.

SeñorCinco · April 2014

daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »

and without going out of the game to fiddle around with things.

That in itself is a huge plus as far as I'm concerned. I want to comm on the run to others. Be that in an organized group outing or a random dungeon around complete strangers.

It is nothing short of a punishment to have to stop and... type. I type in the forums. I want to play in the game.

LunaRae · April 2014

I don't really care for in-game voice communication. I'm very happy to use 3rd party with my guildmates and I usually stay away from random public dungeon groups. I know that's not an option for everyone, just my two cents.

Sidney · April 2014

No. Take a look at all the spazzed out rage faces on these forums.

Now think about the people on xbox live.

Merge.

GAH.

O_O

pborerb16_ESO · April 2014

Where it's available, people tend not to use inferior in-game voice chat anyway and prefer the established 3rd party solutions. So, if ESO were to add in-game voice chat, it would need to be of really awesome quality and be well maintained, and I have to say that I agree with Estwing, "I would rather have ZOS spend their time on actual game content and updates". But then, I never was a big user of voice chat.

Eris · April 2014

To be honest, even when a game actually has in-game voice chat, I still use teamspeak.

sociald100ub17_ESO · April 2014

I think it would be a nice addition. I would use it if they had it.
Certainly some with prefer 3rd party clients and that is perfectly fine also.

daneyulebub17_ESO · April 2014

Why we DO need in game voice chat--
Typical "voice chat" scenario with a general group of non-hard core gamers or pickup group:

dani > Hi--thanks for the group. This is a complicated dungeon, and I only have a short time--let's do voice so I can go over what to do. You guys ok with vent?

buthead > No way!!!! I use TS. Vent SUCKS!!!!!!

klue-less> Vent? TS???

gramps > I have TS, but it's an old version. Wait while I upgrade it--back in 5 minutes.

dani > Uh, OK, TS then I guess--you have a server, buthead?

buthead > My guild does. Can't give the password to you unless you join. Everybody I'll send and invite to join "The Mighty Epeeners", ok?.

dani > Yeah, sorry. I'm, uh, already with my max 5 guilds.

Ann Noy > I have a Vent server. Username: kjdlkajdfkaj Password: dkjfalkdj fowije

dani > Great! Everyone cool with Ann's Vent?

buthead > I hate Vent. Bye LaMMMMeRS!
- buthead has left the group -

klue-less > What's vent????

dani > klue, it's a voice chat utility. Just download it from w ww.ventrilo.com/download.php

klue-less > You mean on the web? I'll try--how do I get out of the game to do that? Maybe this X button?

dani > No, that's the QUIT but--

- klue-less has left your group -

dani > Well, I guess it's down to us 3. Ann, I can't log in to your Vent server with the username and password you gave.

Ann Noy > Sorry, my server isn't starting. I have to log out to fix it. Be back in 30 minutes? Probably.
- Ann Noy has left your group -

dani > Sigh. Guess I'll go do some crafting.
- dani has left your group -

gramps > OK, back. TS installed and ready to go!

gramps > Uh, Hello?

- group disbanded -

Sakiri · April 2014

Malediktus wrote: »

3rd party voip is useless when you want to play with strangers via the group finder, giving strangers your TS IP and password is not really that good of an idea to me

So I would like to the an ingame VOIP

I prefer not to get in voice chat with randoms and in the case there IS voice it ends up being required by many.

No.

Jade1986 · April 2014

daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »

Why we DO need in game voice chat--
Typical "voice chat" scenario with a general group of non-hard core gamers or pickup group:

dani > Hi--thanks for the group. This is a complicated dungeon, and I only have a short time--let's do voice so I can go over what to do. You guys ok with vent?

buthead > No way!!!! I use TS. Vent SUCKS!!!!!!

klue-less> Vent? TS???

gramps > I have TS, but it's an old version. Wait while I upgrade it--back in 5 minutes.

dani > Uh, OK, TS then I guess--you have a server, buthead?

buthead > My guild does. Can't give the password to you unless you join. Everybody I'll send and invite to join "The Mighty Epeeners", ok?.

dani > Yeah, sorry. I'm, uh, already with my max 5 guilds.

Ann Noy > I have a Vent server. Username: kjdlkajdfkaj Password: dkjfalkdj fowije

dani > Great! Everyone cool with Ann's Vent?

buthead > I hate Vent. Bye LaMMMMeRS!
- buthead has left the group -

klue-less > What's vent????

dani > klue, it's a voice chat utility. Just download it from w ww.ventrilo.com/download.php

klue-less > You mean on the web? I'll try--how do I get out of the game to do that? Maybe this X button?

dani > No, that's the QUIT but--

- klue-less has left your group -

dani > Well, I guess it's down to us 3. Ann, I can't log in to your Vent server with the username and password you gave.

Ann Noy > Sorry, my server isn't starting. I have to log out to fix it. Be back in 30 minutes? Probably.
- Ann Noy has left your group -

dani > Sigh. Guess I'll go do some crafting.
- dani has left your group -

gramps > OK, back. TS installed and ready to go!

gramps > Uh, Hello?

- group disbanded -

THIS 100 percent! A local voice chat option would be fantastic, kind of like the "Say" option in game, you can only hear people that are relatively close to you, and the ability to start "Party chat" like xbox live would be great as well. We are paying for a service, more than xbox live actually, so why not get voice chat?

PBpsy · April 2014

daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »

Why we DO need in game voice chat--
Typical "voice chat" scenario with a general group of non-hard core gamers or pickup group:

dani > Hi--thanks for the group. This is a complicated dungeon, and I only have a short time--let's do voice so I can go over what to do. You guys ok with vent?

buthead > No way!!!! I use TS. Vent SUCKS!!!!!!

klue-less> Vent? TS???

gramps > I have TS, but it's an old version. Wait while I upgrade it--back in 5 minutes.

dani > Uh, OK, TS then I guess--you have a server, buthead?

buthead > My guild does. Can't give the password to you unless you join. Everybody I'll send and invite to join "The Mighty Epeeners", ok?.

dani > Yeah, sorry. I'm, uh, already with my max 5 guilds.

Ann Noy > I have a Vent server. Username: kjdlkajdfkaj Password: dkjfalkdj fowije

dani > Great! Everyone cool with Ann's Vent?

buthead > I hate Vent. Bye LaMMMMeRS!
- buthead has left the group -

klue-less > What's vent????

dani > klue, it's a voice chat utility. Just download it from w ww.ventrilo.com/download.php

klue-less > You mean on the web? I'll try--how do I get out of the game to do that? Maybe this X button?

dani > No, that's the QUIT but--

- klue-less has left your group -

dani > Well, I guess it's down to us 3. Ann, I can't log in to your Vent server with the username and password you gave.

Ann Noy > Sorry, my server isn't starting. I have to log out to fix it. Be back in 30 minutes? Probably.
- Ann Noy has left your group -

dani > Sigh. Guess I'll go do some crafting.
- dani has left your group -

gramps > OK, back. TS installed and ready to go!

gramps > Uh, Hello?

- group disbanded -

Yes. At some point I have been each of the characters in that conversation. Small scale inbuilt voice chat would be great.

AbraCadabra · April 2014

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

No, it tends to draw hard on the games servers, plus there is no need for it as 3rd party voip are far better.

I agree with this.

daneyulebub17_ESO · April 2014

AbraCadabra wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

No, it tends to draw hard on the games servers, plus there is no need for it as 3rd party voip are far better.

I agree with this.

Sheesh. No one disputes 3rd party programs are better. They just is no standard one, they take effort to set up outside the game, and it can't be assumed in casual grouping. That's kind of the point.

Kyosji · April 2014

Even if they add it, I would have voice chat disabled. Nothing more annoying than being forced to listen to kids yelling at you. If you want to run them in groups for dungeons, whatever. Once you do them all, there's not much of a reason to go back, so it seems like wasted resources. To use it in PvP I would probably shoot myself. Already enough complainers out there now, and then having to listen to them verbally, no thanks.

daneyulebub17_ESO · April 2014

I don't voice all the time, but in a way, Vent/TS/et al are worse for avoiding it if you're part of a guild--I've been in many MMO guilds where a segment of the members love to chat 24/7, about non-game related stuff. It's expected to use it, sign in to their server, and talk about inane things. Its annoying when you don't want to be social and just want to play.

An in-game chat in some ways is better in that regard, as it's typically limited to groups/raids, unlike the 3rd party apps with their common rooms with 20 people yakking away. I'd like the option.

Voice chat is a tool, though, and having it available for pretty much everyone without a lot of futzing around makes the game more fun and social for me, even if there are times I don't use it.

dawnhawk · April 2014

I'm one of the ones that would never turn on in-game voice. I don't mind talking to guildies (depending on the program) - but I have little to no interest in random conversations with pugs.

In-game voice would be disabled, guild voice is just turned off if I'm not feeling social (or never turned on in the case of guilds that use mumble).

But I have no problem asking "is there anything I need to know about this boss?" or just using google.

gwallace3 · April 2014

Eq2 in game voice chat is the best I have ever used. Has selectable channels built in, for guild chat, group chat or private chat. So while out doing dungeon runs it is no problem at all to invite someone you know or not cause the second they accept the group invite they are put in to group chat, unless they have it turned off. A lot of players will have it turned on to listen and just type questions they may have if they do not have a mic.

If I remember right SOE uses a separate server just dedicated to voice and doesn't impact the main game at all.

Brockxz · April 2014

No. And here's why. Because 99% people won't use it. Look at other mmos. I have played a lot of them and some of them have ingame voice chat but almost noone uses it. Everyone will still prefer TS, Mumble, Ventrillo etc.

gwallace3 · April 2014

Brockxz wrote: »

No. And here's why. Because 99% people won't use it. Look at other mmos. I have played a lot of them and some of them have ingame voice chat but almost noone uses it. Everyone will still prefer TS, Mumble, Ventrillo etc.

For hardcore raiders I agree with the above quote. They always prefer the 3rd party voice systems. But for the normal folks I disagree. Honestly I would say in eq2 its about 90% of the population uses the in game voice chat system.

Jirki88 · April 2014

One should also consider that if voice chat were implemented and became the norm, it would probably alienate a lot of people, including deaf and hearing-impaired, as well as people playing in environments where they cant have sound on and then people having to make do with hardware that may not be that good for sound.

reggielee · April 2014

there are so many bloody vents now that a common one for casual grouping wouldnt hurt as it is a pain to get everyone in the same page. but to be honest, if its such a random short lived pug what on earth do you need to voice chat with them about? hey, go there, kill that boss? its understood

gwallace3 · April 2014

reggielee wrote: »

there are so many bloody vents now that a common one for casual grouping wouldnt hurt as it is a pain to get everyone in the same page. but to be honest, if its such a random short lived pug what on earth do you need to voice chat with them about? hey, go there, kill that boss? its understood

If its one boss, ok cool. I am still new to the game myself, only lvl 6 atm. And haven't done any grp stuff so far in this game. But in eq2 the dungeons are scripted, so that means you have to know the strats, and playing has a tank in eq2 it is much easier to to give instructions to your grp members where to stand or what corner to move too, or when I am rdy to pull the trash mobs, or the named, etc.