joseayalac wrote: »The standard for DPS parsing is the 21M dummy since it gives buffs and all. Thats the point of comparison when people talk about their DPS.
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Front Bar: DPS
- Purifying Light every 6s with priority over following abilities.
- Solar Barrage every 10s.
- Blazing Spear every 10s.
- Puncturing Sweep every second none of the previous abilities need to be casted on.
- Inner Light (Slotted for simplified/cheap Major Prophecy.)
Backbar: Healing
- Illustrious Spring every 10s unless it needs to be repositioned.
- Energy Orb
- Ritual of Rebirth
- Restoring Focus (I like the stamina restore, and I don't need anymore magicka restore.)
- Extended Ritual
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Front Bar: DPS
- Purifying Light every 6s with priority over following abilities.
- Solar Barrage every 10s.
- Blazing Spear every 10s.
- Puncturing Sweep every second none of the previous abilities need to be casted on.
- Inner Light (Slotted for simplified/cheap Major Prophecy.)
Backbar: Healing
- Illustrious Spring every 10s unless it needs to be repositioned.
- Energy Orb
- Ritual of Rebirth
- Restoring Focus (I like the stamina restore, and I don't need anymore magicka restore.)
- Extended Ritual
If you are queueing as a DD you are quite possibly being kicked because you are being seen with a resto and healing skills. The moment people see a resto on a DD in a dungeon they probably aren't going to take the time to check how much dps you are actually doing. They will just see a resto and assume you don't have a clue. If the group has a real healer (not as rare as some people like to make out from my experience) then it's quite possibly going to annoy them as well, because it immediately implies you do not trust them to do their job. Even if you don't actively heal, the moment that resto is seen it will put doubts in people's minds, and that can be all it takes.
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Front Bar: DPS
- Purifying Light every 6s with priority over following abilities.
- Solar Barrage every 10s.
- Blazing Spear every 10s.
- Puncturing Sweep every second none of the previous abilities need to be casted on.
- Inner Light (Slotted for simplified/cheap Major Prophecy.)
Backbar: Healing
- Illustrious Spring every 10s unless it needs to be repositioned.
- Energy Orb
- Ritual of Rebirth
- Restoring Focus (I like the stamina restore, and I don't need anymore magicka restore.)
- Extended Ritual
If you are queueing as a DD you are quite possibly being kicked because you are being seen with a resto and healing skills. The moment people see a resto on a DD in a dungeon they probably aren't going to take the time to check how much dps you are actually doing. They will just see a resto and assume you don't have a clue. If the group has a real healer (not as rare as some people like to make out from my experience) then it's quite possibly going to annoy them as well, because it immediately implies you do not trust them to do their job. Even if you don't actively heal, the moment that resto is seen it will put doubts in people's minds, and that can be all it takes.
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Imo your dps is fine, but only if your rotation is something you can consistently do on demand in an actual fight.
My rotation is extremely easy to pull off. I always light attack weave as well.
Front Bar: DPS
- Purifying Light every 6s with priority over following abilities.
- Solar Barrage every 10s.
- Blazing Spear every 10s.
- Puncturing Sweep every second none of the previous abilities need to be casted on.
- Inner Light (Slotted for simplified/cheap Major Prophecy.)
Backbar: Healing
- Illustrious Spring every 10s unless it needs to be repositioned.
- Energy Orb
- Ritual of Rebirth
- Restoring Focus (I like the stamina restore, and I don't need anymore magicka restore.)
- Extended Ritual
I always light attack weave, I have 1500+ CP, I don't stand in stupid I get Major Sorcery, Minor Sorcery, Major Prophecy from my gear/abilities, and I only start healing if our healer dies. I have unlimited sustain just using trash potions.
So it seems the people saying it's kind of random, like a 4th joining may be right. *shrugs*
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »I think you may be right, in which case I should probably just stick to 1-bar damage and let groups wipe when the healer goes down. After a few wipes I could say "I could slap together a healing bar in case the healer goes down again?"
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »How much DPS is enough for me to queue as DPS in Random Veteran Dungeon Finder?
I'm genuinely curious, as I pull 25-30k self buffed on 3m dummy, and I have been kicked from several dungeons without explanation.
For a point of comparison, my wife does 7-11k DPS self buffed on the same dummy, and has never been kicked.
We both know mechanics as well.
Mostly interested in hearing a suggested number, and I welcome your own experiences in the Veteran queue as well!
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Imo your dps is fine, but only if your rotation is something you can consistently do on demand in an actual fight.
My rotation is extremely easy to pull off. I always light attack weave as well.
Front Bar: DPS
- Purifying Light every 6s with priority over following abilities.
- Solar Barrage every 10s.
- Blazing Spear every 10s.
- Puncturing Sweep every second none of the previous abilities need to be casted on.
- Inner Light (Slotted for simplified/cheap Major Prophecy.)
Backbar: Healing
- Illustrious Spring every 10s unless it needs to be repositioned.
- Energy Orb
- Ritual of Rebirth
- Restoring Focus (I like the stamina restore, and I don't need anymore magicka restore.)
- Extended Ritual
I always light attack weave, I have 1500+ CP, I don't stand in stupid I get Major Sorcery, Minor Sorcery, Major Prophecy from my gear/abilities, and I only start healing if our healer dies. I have unlimited sustain just using trash potions.
So it seems the people saying it's kind of random, like a 4th joining may be right. *shrugs*
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »How much DPS is enough for me to queue as DPS in Random Veteran Dungeon Finder?
I'm genuinely curious, as I pull 25-30k self buffed on 3m dummy, and I have been kicked from several dungeons without explanation.
For a point of comparison, my wife does 7-11k DPS self buffed on the same dummy, and has never been kicked.
We both know mechanics as well.
Mostly interested in hearing a suggested number, and I welcome your own experiences in the Veteran queue as well!
Franchise408 wrote: »25k-30k is enough for any vet dungeon. You're good.
I can't elaborate on why people may have kicked you, as I wasn't there.
Perhaps it's because there are many people who believe you *need* to be pulling 70k minimum.
But 70k DPS is not necessary even for vet DLC trials. You can clear vet DLC trials with 30k-40k DPS. You might not get trifectas, but you'll clear.
25k-30k is about what I pull as well in vet DLC dungeons, and I've never had much problem with burn.
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Imo your dps is fine, but only if your rotation is something you can consistently do on demand in an actual fight.
My rotation is extremely easy to pull off. I always light attack weave as well.
Front Bar: DPS
- Purifying Light every 6s with priority over following abilities.
- Solar Barrage every 10s.
- Blazing Spear every 10s.
- Puncturing Sweep every second none of the previous abilities need to be casted on.
- Inner Light (Slotted for simplified/cheap Major Prophecy.)
Backbar: Healing
- Illustrious Spring every 10s unless it needs to be repositioned.
- Energy Orb
- Ritual of Rebirth
- Restoring Focus (I like the stamina restore, and I don't need anymore magicka restore.)
- Extended Ritual
I always light attack weave, I have 1500+ CP, I don't stand in stupid I get Major Sorcery, Minor Sorcery, Major Prophecy from my gear/abilities, and I only start healing if our healer dies. I have unlimited sustain just using trash potions.
So it seems the people saying it's kind of random, like a 4th joining may be right. *shrugs*
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »How much DPS is enough for me to queue as DPS in Random Veteran Dungeon Finder?
I'm genuinely curious, as I pull 25-30k self buffed on 3m dummy, and I have been kicked from several dungeons without explanation.
For a point of comparison, my wife does 7-11k DPS self buffed on the same dummy, and has never been kicked.
We both know mechanics as well.
Mostly interested in hearing a suggested number, and I welcome your own experiences in the Veteran queue as well!Franchise408 wrote: »25k-30k is enough for any vet dungeon. You're good.
I can't elaborate on why people may have kicked you, as I wasn't there.
Perhaps it's because there are many people who believe you *need* to be pulling 70k minimum.
But 70k DPS is not necessary even for vet DLC trials. You can clear vet DLC trials with 30k-40k DPS. You might not get trifectas, but you'll clear.
25k-30k is about what I pull as well in vet DLC dungeons, and I've never had much problem with burn.
answering you guys. Look you can do ANY contend with 25k stable dps, BUT we have achievements like Tick-Tock Tormentor and when you want to do them, you need really high dps besides builds and straignt arms
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Front Bar: DPS
- Purifying Light every 6s with priority over following abilities.
- Solar Barrage every 10s.
- Blazing Spear every 10s.
- Puncturing Sweep every second none of the previous abilities need to be casted on.
- Inner Light (Slotted for simplified/cheap Major Prophecy.)
Backbar: Healing
- Illustrious Spring every 10s unless it needs to be repositioned.
- Energy Orb
- Ritual of Rebirth
- Restoring Focus (I like the stamina restore, and I don't need anymore magicka restore.)
- Extended Ritual
If you are queueing as a DD you are quite possibly being kicked because you are being seen with a resto and healing skills. The moment people see a resto on a DD in a dungeon they probably aren't going to take the time to check how much dps you are actually doing. They will just see a resto and assume you don't have a clue. If the group has a real healer (not as rare as some people like to make out from my experience) then it's quite possibly going to annoy them as well, because it immediately implies you do not trust them to do their job. Even if you don't actively heal, the moment that resto is seen it will put doubts in people's minds, and that can be all it takes.
I think you may be right, in which case I should probably just stick to 1-bar damage and let groups wipe when the healer goes down. After a few wipes I could say "I could slap together a healing bar in case the healer goes down again?"
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Front Bar: DPS
- Purifying Light every 6s with priority over following abilities.
- Solar Barrage every 10s.
- Blazing Spear every 10s.
- Puncturing Sweep every second none of the previous abilities need to be casted on.
- Inner Light (Slotted for simplified/cheap Major Prophecy.)
Backbar: Healing
- Illustrious Spring every 10s unless it needs to be repositioned.
- Energy Orb
- Ritual of Rebirth
- Restoring Focus (I like the stamina restore, and I don't need anymore magicka restore.)
- Extended Ritual
If you are queueing as a DD you are quite possibly being kicked because you are being seen with a resto and healing skills. The moment people see a resto on a DD in a dungeon they probably aren't going to take the time to check how much dps you are actually doing. They will just see a resto and assume you don't have a clue. If the group has a real healer (not as rare as some people like to make out from my experience) then it's quite possibly going to annoy them as well, because it immediately implies you do not trust them to do their job. Even if you don't actively heal, the moment that resto is seen it will put doubts in people's minds, and that can be all it takes.
I think you may be right, in which case I should probably just stick to 1-bar damage and let groups wipe when the healer goes down. After a few wipes I could say "I could slap together a healing bar in case the healer goes down again?"