ResidentContrarian wrote: »Healing ward and roll works wonders on ma NB, esp. since healing ward is arguably the strongest heal in the game and NB also has the most healing potential...
ResidentContrarian wrote: »I appreciate you all that took time to answer my question. Do you all feel that if magblade was given a good burst heal, it would push them into OP territory? Cloak/burst heal? Would it be beneficial to give them a good burst heal THEN give cloak the "ramping cost" treatment?
It sounds like cloak cannot overcome the lack of a burst heal or the assasinswill/swallow soul/soul harvest "dodgeability" issue.
Healing ward and roll works wonders on ma NB, esp. since healing ward is arguably the strongest heal in the game and NB also has the most healing potential...
The real reason why they won't get a burst heal is because there are varied builds in the game, and massive performance swings between builds in this game.
That players use the same builds or won't change how they build doesn't change the fact that someone else has or will.
That said, honestly, I wouldn't even slot a specific burst heal over healing ward even if it were available. I don't do it on my mag templar, mag DK, nor mag sorc.
Most of the times you'd use a burst heal on a mag char you are already dead if you don't have stam, and if you have stam roll+healing ward is effective enough to not bother wasting a skill slot.
If anything a burst heal on the class would only be a stam NB buff.
I will say, the other toons I've been playing since patch hit (testing new builds etc.) all have Inner or Hunter slotted. - NB's stand absolutely no chance. As soon as one presents themselves, I basically just mercilessly chase them down real quick and then move on.
Campaign their "shade" works in 90% of the time. The other 10% is like trying to catch that one mag sorc who builds specifically to streak away (extra mag sustain + speed). It is impossible, unless you are mag sorc too with similar build.I will say, the other toons I've been playing since patch hit (testing new builds etc.) all have Inner or Hunter slotted. - NB's stand absolutely no chance. As soon as one presents themselves, I basically just mercilessly chase them down real quick and then move on.
Yes, that's true. At least until you meet a good NB, especially Stamblade, using Cloak and Shade. There is just no way to catch a *competent* NB (1v1) that wants to get away, except if they have remarkably bad luck.
Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Campaign their "shade" works in 90% of the time. The other 10% is like trying to catch that one mag sorc who builds specifically to streak away (extra mag sustain + speed). It is impossible, unless you are mag sorc too with similar build.I will say, the other toons I've been playing since patch hit (testing new builds etc.) all have Inner or Hunter slotted. - NB's stand absolutely no chance. As soon as one presents themselves, I basically just mercilessly chase them down real quick and then move on.
Yes, that's true. At least until you meet a good NB, especially Stamblade, using Cloak and Shade. There is just no way to catch a *competent* NB (1v1) that wants to get away, except if they have remarkably bad luck.
vesselwiththepestle wrote: »The best thing is, with being able to start a gank with a guaranteed Uppercut crit with vampire bonus to weapon damage and dealing damage from 3 skills, 1 medium attack, 1 light attack all within 1 GCD makes Cloak worth it for me.
Which is why they should have looked at the slight OP synergy with vampirism rather than nerf the Nightblade toolkit.
If vampirism weapon damage buff applied only to vampire line skills, it would be abused far less. As it is, it synergise HARD with Cloak, so the "problem solvers" reworked Cloak rather than the root cause of the problem.
WhyEvenTry wrote: »ResidentContrarian wrote: »Healing ward and roll works wonders on ma NB, esp. since healing ward is arguably the strongest heal in the game and NB also has the most healing potential...
Can you please do me a favor and explain how you come to the conclusion that healing ward is the strongest heal in the game.
Also, the title of this thread should be changed to “Dark cloak has essentially been removed from the game” With the recent nerf it received, which no one was asking for, and this buff to invis cloak there is little to no reason at all to use dark cloak instead of invis.
So buff dark cloak please.
ResidentContrarian wrote: »WhyEvenTry wrote: »ResidentContrarian wrote: »Healing ward and roll works wonders on ma NB, esp. since healing ward is arguably the strongest heal in the game and NB also has the most healing potential...
Can you please do me a favor and explain how you come to the conclusion that healing ward is the strongest heal in the game.
Also, the title of this thread should be changed to “Dark cloak has essentially been removed from the game” With the recent nerf it received, which no one was asking for, and this buff to invis cloak there is little to no reason at all to use dark cloak instead of invis.
So buff dark cloak please.
Scales more than any other heal in the game, has highest potential out of any other heal in the game.