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Spectral_Lord wrote: »

If they add that. I'm going to toggle all of that off.

agree

I totally agree with you OP , people should have the right to chose , my screen is already a flooded thing full of addons ,i dont care about immersion, i would totally like to have these changes also.

Spectral_Lord wrote: »

If they add that. I'm going to toggle all of that off.

Perfectly fair , i would never have they add this in a way you are forced to see this, but others would enjoy the game more if they had these things.

Earthmaster wrote: »

There are simple fixes that MUST be implemented.
- Implement duels. Duels are fun, great way to pass the time and train you skills and try out builds with your friends.
- Add names above players heads. And dont give me crap about immersion if MMO haters dont want it make an option for them to remove it. but I WANNA SEE WHO IS NEXT TO ME.
- Implement the freaking chat bubbles already....

Duels: PVP belongs in it's own area, out of the way for the majority who don't PVP. Yes I assert with no facts PVPers are a minority, they are in most other MMOs and given the profile of many players of this game I see no reason to think it's different here.

Nameplates: I agree, as long as they're optional for the 'immersionists' then there's no valid argument against them and their absence if making the botting problem a lot harder to deal with because reporting them is a lot more tedious and sometimes not possible.

Chat bubbles: I never use them in any game, I hate them and don't see what they add but as long as they're optional then I can turn them off and not be bothered by them.

All that being said, I don't for one moment think any of them MUST be implemented nor do I think they're the causes of the problem you're raising, namely the lack of a 'community' as I would put it.

As I see the mega-server is the root cause, how can a traditional server-wide community evolve when you get to see a miniscule fraction of it? How can people play with friends when the 'Travel to Player' doesn't do what it says and 30+ second zone loading screens make zoning an aggravatingly slow process?

This game is patently a single-player TES game with some MMO touches. I@m far, far from a lover of grouping in MMOs but this game is almost as removed from a 'community-based' MMO as GW1 was with its 'mega-server' implementation 7 years ago or so.

Earthmaster wrote: »

I still remember during 7 years in world of Warcraft i sometimes could log in and not play at all... just chat with friends guildies and run around

You mean you were board? Which contradicts the first point.

Also the social aspects of ESO bar a few phasing issues is the same as WoW other than you can be in more than one guild.

MMO's need one thing and one thing only and that is to be good or more to the point fun. It is very hard to say what is good/fun, usually a mixture of many things.
What is not good is very easy to point out. First and foremost is the needs to be different or innovative. Copying wow is not the way forward, I thought that would be abundantly clear by all the failures.

SWTOR is the biggest example. Oddly enough is was very good at everything you have said but it was just WOWsci-fi and that was the biggest problem it had. People were already board before they even started.

One thing WoW has that ESO dose not is diversity in play. For one thing WOW had many routes to the level cap. You could quest all the way to 50 three times in the same faction and never do the same quest twice. That was six routes to the level cap without one expansion.
On top of that blizzard implemented alternative ways to level such as the dungeon finder and XP in PVP. This for me was KEY. There is only so much questing I can do before I get board. It ends up being combat that keeps people interested. Weather that be Dungeons/raids or PVP. That is what ESO needs to learn.

Dungeons are fine, The expansion will add much for raiders so that leaves PVP, they absolutely need to make it so you can level from 10-cap by just PVPing.

Other than that ESO has made a really good first step into the MMO world. This game is a fresh of fresh air compared to the standard WoW clone and I for one think it has a bright future.

Now is the time to keep it simple, fix what they have and work on keeping the PVP crowd happy, as I think that is the only real weakness the game has.

The biggest mistake ESO have made is the Veteran Ranks in my opinion. It's not good for Lore and story and it also means that for alts you will HAVE to repeat quests. Something I personally can't stand. Which is why it is important to make it so you can level reasonably quickly while PVPing.

I dont think any of that needs to be added at all, much less ASAP.

If the devs have some spare time, sure, no skin off my back, as long as i can toggle it all off.

I too prefer games that are more of a glorified chat room ^_^

Spectral_Lord wrote: »

If they add that. I'm going to toggle all of that off.

That is why people are asking for the option.

I agree that this game definitely lacks some kind of social relationship thingy, but by all means those are not chat bubbles or name plates, man. Duels migh give a fresh breeze at later point in time. What it needs is community tightening visuals like visible guild stores where you can actually walk in, player housings, individual player store shacks/tents with high recognition value and such kind of things AND crafting should have much bigger importance at VR1+ than now, so you actually will need to interact with other people to squeeze the very last bit out of your gear.

jy82988ub17_ESO wrote: »

All these people complaining they don't want any of this and they need to have duels in specialized area(s). Seriously? The more depth a game has the better end product you're going to have overall. Providing aspects for EVERYONE is what an MMO is.

You guys are seriously so narrow minded when it comes to anything you don't like it's disgusting. It'll ruin the lore, it'll ruin my game, it'll ruin our lives blah, blah, blah, get over yourselves. Make some sacrifices so that everyone can have an enjoyable time. I can only imagine just how close minded you people are about serious issues if you have such a distaste for something so petty!

Adding an area to duel is not only a better idea to keep the majority happy, but also works better in the 'Lore' of the game. As if you could just start fighting anywhere. You would be thrown in prison for fighting in towns.

Also needing to go to a specialized area would bring like minded people together and would be a good way to make new friends thus adding more depth. So I think you will find it is you being narrow minded.

Not having names above people's heads is absurd, IMO.

Shillen wrote: »

Not having names above people's heads is absurd, IMO.

When I walk across the street I have to ask people for their name. We should all be required to at least walk with a nameplate ;-)

But seriously, you can just point your cursor on their character and it shows their name on your screen.

So, you say you miss the "social" part. There already is one, you just need to adjust certain preconceptions. But...

Duels?
Nametags?
Chat bubbles?

Whenever I read suggestions like these (and they've been around since beta), I like to refer to this great quote:

Perhaps the biggest hurdle ESO has to get over has nothing to do with its content or design, but in getting the average MMO player out of “Play it like WoW” mode. After years of conditioning, that’s a tall task, and an interesting development to watch.

(source)

All of the options you mentioned above are unnecessary and don't add to the immersive nature of the game, in my opinion. Should they ever be implemented for whatever reason, I strongly hope there will be a total and complete opt-out. Like, I don't even want to see an invitation to a duel, ever.