I can see the sense in the healing reduction change. They wanted to nerf gank builds or burst overall without making non-gank builds so overwhelmingly tanky due to damage being plummeted while heals staying the same (and they are already powerful). I see less stalemates/infinite heals and 1 sec bursts which makes pvp more healthy for me. I mean it sucked that any damage you deal that isn't 100-0 is meaningless due to everything being healed right away; a problem which will be reduced a little this patch. Not to mention I am liking those healing changes even when my main is a magplar. The devs listened and delivered, yet people are still sad for some reason ...

Xahran wrote: »

I can see the sense in the healing reduction change. They wanted to nerf gank builds or burst overall without making non-gank builds so overwhelmingly tanky due to damage being plummeted while heals staying the same (and they are already powerful). I see less stalemates/infinite heals and 1 sec bursts which makes pvp more healthy for me. I mean it sucked that any damage you deal that isn't 100-0 is meaningless due to everything being healed right away; a problem which will be reduced a little this patch. Not to mention I am liking those healing changes even when my main is a magplar. The devs listened and delivered, yet people are still sad for some reason ...

Reducing healing makes you more vulnerable to gank builds, more vulnerable to any build. They specifically called out the problem being burst builds tearing players apart. This makes it worse. It does not make sense.

At the same time the healing change buffs groups, because stacked healing is effectively infinite. The more they reduce healing through battle spirit the more effective group healing becomes.

The small change to damage reduction doesn't matter, it will get lost in the diminishing returns abyss with the 5--10 other multiplicative sources of % damage reduction that players have at all times.

The root problem is that none of these things, tanky damage builds, burst builds, bomb builds, healing are really a problem. ZOS is just playing whack-a-mole with forum posts. Forums complain about burst, ZOS be like "increase battle spirit damage reduction", then the forums complain about builds being too tanky, ZOS be like "omg, reverse course nerf healing!". Why they make these global change is beyond me. If a build is too much nerf the build, or buff the counter build - just like they did with overload and stealth.

They didn’t nerf healing enough. HOTs of the same kind shouldn’t stack or should be rebalanced with some kind of limit.

For the people who aren’t good at math: both damage and healing are at 45% now

Damage Recieved: .9 * .5 = .45
Base 10% dmg reduction gives u .9 and bspirit .5

Healing Received: 1 - .55 = .45

They would nerf healing by another 5% and I wouldn't mind honestly. Again, healing is so powerful it makes any damage that isn't 100-0 just utterly useless and it makes all classes technically play the same, as a gank bursty builds. There is no room for dps pressure builds or dots anymore, and when fighting as a group best thing to do is just stacking ults on somebody.

Also, it is very clear since a long time that the devs won't ever touch skills or classes unless they have some utterly broken outlier skill. They don't want to affect the seemingly more important PVE players, even though small changes to classes shouldn't hurt as much in a PVE environment but that's it.

Finally, please let's not argue about "nerfing groups". This arguement is old and dumb already. No mmo game ever should or had the need to balance around 1vXing or soloing. 2 players should be better than 1 equally skilled player, that's how basic math works.