LeHarrt91 wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I like the change to Frost Touch and the effort to provide Frost Wardens with an actual Frost Damage spammable.

However... where is the love for Shock Mages?

I just hopped on the PTS and the new morph of Frost Reach deals higher damage than BOTH Shock Reach AND Shock Clench! And this is even with those Shock Damage abilities buffed by the new 10% Ancient Knowledge passive to AoE damage.

To make matters even worse, Shock Clench is still limited to the tiny range of 15 meters despite not having any CC component tied to it, which is the usual justification for such short ranges. It is thus weaker along two different axes and is inferior to Frost Reach in every possible way.

This is simply unacceptable. Shock Mages do not have a spammable of their own and are now clearly established as the forgotten archetype among elemental damage dealers. Please rectify this situation.

What class are you checking these on? and what are their CP allocations?

Magicka Necromancer with CP un-slotted, no buffs active, and no worn sets that would make a difference either way.

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I like the change to Frost Touch and the effort to provide Frost Wardens with an actual Frost Damage spammable.

However... where is the love for Shock Mages?

I just hopped on the PTS and the new morph of Frost Reach deals higher damage than BOTH Shock Reach AND Shock Clench! And this is even with those Shock Damage abilities buffed by the new 10% Ancient Knowledge passive to AoE damage.

To make matters even worse, Shock Clench is still limited to the tiny range of 15 meters despite not having any CC component tied to it, which is the usual justification for such short ranges. It is thus weaker along two different axes and is inferior to Frost Reach in every possible way.

This is simply unacceptable. Shock Mages do not have a spammable of their own and are now clearly established as the forgotten archetype among elemental damage dealers. Please rectify this situation.

What class are you checking these on? and what are their CP allocations?

Magicka Necromancer with CP un-slotted, no buffs active, and no worn sets that would make a difference either way.

Hmm ok, the only thing i can say is that the buff to Ancient Knowledge now being 10% AoE damage effects all your AoE skills. Where as the Frost Clench/ Reach buff is skill specific. Shock still has a chance to proc concussion/ minor vulnerability right?

Are you listening to the collective opinion of the community? DK has been voted as one of the weakest classes in multiple aspects after your continuous nerfs on the class. What's the point of making a class almost the worst in all situations?

I guess they are still fine as PvE tanks but you have to see the polling by yourself, ZOS. It's not only from a few extremely good or extremely bad players, but the collective polling. (Mostly PvP related)

The least difficult class to fight in blackwood:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/576328/what-is-the-most-difficult-annoying-class-to-fight-in-cyrodiil-blackwood-meta-edition/p1

The least difficult class to fight no proc:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/563198/what-class-do-you-find-the-most-difficult-to-fight-in-cyrodiil-no-proc-test-edition#latest

The 2nd least difficult class to fight (before Templar buff):
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/558808/what-class-do-you-find-the-most-difficult-to-fight/p1

The least recommended stam class:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/561164/help-me-pick-a-stamina-class-for-alliance-pvp#latest

The weakest healing:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/429504/which-class-is-weakest-healing-class-pve-and-pvp

The worst sustain:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/563487/pve-what-class-got-the-worst-sustain/p1

Hi Gina

Combat request here for Battlegrounds.

Can we please have the ability to que specifically for Deathmatch game seperate to Objective (Flag/Relic/Chaos)?

The BG Forum area has been asking for this for months with no response/feedback, could we get some open communication here from yourself or Kevin.

I noticed nothing flagged for this on PTS yet.

My biggest concern with the changes to armor passives is that it destabilizes the system.
By giving universal crit chance to light armor and crit damage to medium armor, future additions of new sources for either crit chance or crit damage could possibly turn out to be overpowered for one group and too weak for the other, even though both groups are trying to interact and build around the crit mechanic, which would make balancing attempts difficult. It would most likely result in one group preventing the other from "having nice things".
I think Medium armor should give both weapon and spell crit chance, same as light, just so everyone is on the same page with what they are doing.
I don't mind the increase to healing on medium armor as long as it doesn't negatively impact PvP.

As for the changes to Frost Staves, I love the changes to both morphs of Destructive Touch, but I feel that Clench needs to get its range increased for more ease of use. I suggest 22m, to be the same as the standard for pulls and gapclosers - the range at which tanks will start using their pulls. Frost Clench can easily affort to lose the Immobilize effect for that extra range as it now guarantees chilled, which means that wall of elements is also guaranteed to immobilize after using Clench and Major Maim is enough auxiliary effect to make it worth slotting in my opinion.

Converting the existing No-CP campaigns into No-CP, no proc, no hammer is beyond ridiculous. You need to add a new server with that type. Consolidate into 3-4 servers, all 30 days: CP, No-CP, No-CP/NoProc, CP/NoProc.

I play No-CP for many reasons, but I also want my procs. Shoe-horning me into having to play CP to get procs is actually just kinda mean on your parts. You're eliminating choice, rather than adding.

Additionally, you've done nothing to buff the Magblade while other classes needing major nerfs are left untouched or classes that don't need boosts get them. You've also done nothing to address the rock/paper/scissors of your game. You're still allowing Tanky, heavy heal, high resource recoveries with insane damage builds to exist. There has been no effort to balance or fix (nerf) these builds to where they're more reasonable. If you're gonna try for all 4 things then you shouldn't really be great at any of them (jack of all trades, master of none). I get maybe doing 2 (maybe, big maybe even 3) of those things really well, but not all 4. Instead you seem hellbent on removing any kind of burst builds, gank builds, and now apparently bomb builds.

Also, the 3 sets you're introducing for rewards of the worthy won't even be usable in NoProc campaign, so thanks for that . . .

Do you even talk to your players to get a feel for what should be done? Do you know the guilds in PVP who run certain classes the most? Do you even consult? We may not be designers, but we're in the trenches day in and day out, so we see what is going on, we see the things that need nerfed, fixing, that are exploited, the blatant and prevalent cheating, etc, etc.

All I want is to enjoy the game I've been playing since open-beta with the friends I've made. I PVP fully. I only PVE to better PVP that is it. These changes are nothing but restriction of choice, further playstyle elimination, and straight up trying to cater to the smallest, but loudest voices.

If you're gonna introduce a no-cp, no-proc camp, it needs to be in addition to a normal no-cp camp period.

You also need to look at classes and abilities like Streak--the cost needs hiked. You need to look at Jabs literally locking down a person. Immovable pots need to work against bombard and other abilities. Crippling grasp, and pretty much most magblade abilities needs their base damage increased. Crippling needs its travel speed increased. Give us back the speed bonus as a result (we're siphoning the target's speed to give to ourselves). Scripting and macroing need to be straight up banned. If people can't play the game due to disability, sure that's one thing, and there are controllers and keyboards fore them, but to have the computer essentially play for you by pressing 1 button to achieve several abilities . . . c'mon.

I've talked enough, I'm done. Let us have choice when it comes to pvp server type. Having 2 types isn't choice when you remove one of the options.

I’m worried about my Khajiit DK becoming even worse (Magicka/Stamina) DD than it currently is.

The removal of crit chance from medium armor is a huge issue for stamSorcs I fear, because they rely heavily on crit surge for healing. With all the other nerfs to crit chance over the last months, I think some reassessment is in order. If these changes go through, I think it might be appropriate to increase the healing on crit surge to account for its lower proc chance.

I do not aggree with the changes to light and medium armor.

Both traditionnaly have been linked to magicka or stamina, and even after these changes they will still be.

They still grant cost reduction and recovery to their respected stats, meaning if you want to run light armor on a stamina toon, you will be missing out on a huge amount of sustain, and vice versa.

Not to mention this makes exactly 0 sense from a lore perspective.

Leather/medium armor has traditionally always been linked to martial types in ES games, while light/cloth was linked to spellcasting.

These changes wont make me want to run light armor on my stamplar for pve or pvp.

It might make some (or many) people run medium armor on magicka toons, beacuse medium armor has no downsides(other than losing sustain over light, which is easy to negate).

Please reconsider.

LightYagami wrote: »

Are you listening to the collective opinion of the community? DK has been voted as one of the weakest classes in multiple aspects after your continuous nerfs on the class. What's the point of making a class almost the worst in all situations?

I guess they are still fine as PvE tanks but you have to see the polling by yourself, ZOS. It's not only from a few extremely good or extremely bad players, but the collective polling. (Mostly PvP related)

The least difficult class to fight in blackwood:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/576328/what-is-the-most-difficult-annoying-class-to-fight-in-cyrodiil-blackwood-meta-edition/p1

The least difficult class to fight no proc:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/563198/what-class-do-you-find-the-most-difficult-to-fight-in-cyrodiil-no-proc-test-edition#latest

The 2nd least difficult class to fight (before Templar buff):
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/558808/what-class-do-you-find-the-most-difficult-to-fight/p1

The least recommended stam class:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/561164/help-me-pick-a-stamina-class-for-alliance-pvp#latest

The weakest healing:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/429504/which-class-is-weakest-healing-class-pve-and-pvp

The worst sustain:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/563487/pve-what-class-got-the-worst-sustain/p1

Seriously whats ZoS problem with Dragonknight PVE? Templars are getting ANOTHER buff? And now that medium armor will no longer have critical chance, StamDK will now perform even less now! MagDK definitely is in a bad spot which is why I switched. At this point ZoS needs to answer why they have so much of a problem with Dragonknights.

At this point ESO becoming like Destiny 2 where all these balance changes are useless unless they start separately balance PVE and PVP. That is the only solution at this point or else they will keep heading now this path where 1 community is happy but the other is not.

ShonenTrash wrote: »

My personal opinion, while I do love the Carve buff, the worst things in this patch, as a Stamina Dragonknight is the lack of meaningful damage buffs for Dragonknights, who were already as mentioned, one of the weakest damage dealing classes in the game. I'm already off-meta for being an Imperial, running mainly 2H as I prefer them aesthetically, then taking away our already low Crit Chance when I was already compensating for penetration is VERY discouraging for me to continue playing a Stamina character in PVE situations. It's like telling me to just switch to a High Elf Mag Necromancer, I bring NOTHING to trial teams other than already subpar damage.

And yes, I just had to restore my forum account just to voice out my opinion as it was frustrating enough to warrant so.

Trust me my friend your not alone. Im glad that you took the time to restore your account because we need ZoS to see this. Its so obvious at this point that the game is centered around PVP balancing which is whats killing the game in my opinion. Its time to separately balance PVE and PVP. In my opinion this is the only solution at this point

I threw on some gear on my magplar test toon for pts:

The new blacklash has some okay scaling, definetly lower than expected, however the fact that its 50% dmg copied will definetly makes it worth.

For reference: with 6.2k spell damage it had a maximum value of around 22k. Thats decent, and it will allow magplars to focus more on spell damage and still scale this skill well.

But the big winner here is stampar. I cant remember the last time i had more than 25k stam on any of my stamplar builds, and so this is a huge power up, both for pve and pvp.

Also, why would you introduce all these hybridization things then completely and totally hose Pelinals? The changes won't even make it worth using in PVE! Seriously . . .

And what you're doing to proxy det . . . leave it alone. Bombing is an art. It's high risk, high reward and usually results in the bomber dying too. Sure it got out of hand during Mayhem but you know what, that's part of the fun and bombers are easily countered--don't stack, use the myriad of things to bring the person out of stealth while repairing doors etc.

Stop ruining playstyles b/c some loud group of whiners got to you.

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I like the change to Frost Touch and the effort to provide Frost Wardens with an actual Frost Damage spammable.

However... where is the love for Shock Mages?

I just hopped on the PTS and the new morph of Frost Reach deals higher damage than BOTH Shock Reach AND Shock Clench! And this is even with those Shock Damage abilities buffed by the new 10% Ancient Knowledge passive to AoE damage.

To make matters even worse, Shock Clench is still limited to the tiny range of 15 meters despite not having any CC component tied to it, which is the usual justification for such short ranges. It is thus weaker along two different axes and is inferior to Frost Reach in every possible way.

This is simply unacceptable. Shock Mages do not have a spammable of their own and are now clearly established as the forgotten archetype among elemental damage dealers. Please rectify this situation.

Can you tell us how the new changes to the Light and Medium armor scale now in the PTS? For example does Prodigy and Agility grant the bonuses off of just 1 piece or do we have to wear multiple pieces to get the max value?

Can we get a developers comment as to why Pelinel's Aptitude was changed so drastically as to not even contain a single one of it's old buffs? Pelinel's Wrath could have been made it's own set rather than overwriting a pre-existing one that a number of hybrid builds use.

Also are there any plans on adding a set that equalizes weapon and spell damage like Pelinel formerly use to or will weapon and spell damage at some point go the way of crit and penetration where they are combined?