Yep, seeing it here too. Blocking is fine as long as you have your shield up constantly, but you get charged again to drop block. Also only seems to be effective if you block an attack. If you just put up the shield and then put it back down, it's fine.

Did a bit of testing, and it also seems to be affected by bar swapping and block casting.
EDIT - more testing: drinking a potion while blocking also triggers the stam loss, which is a bit problematic when you drink it to regain stam. Also it does 'store' the hits, so the more hits you take, the bigger the stam loss at the end. Finally, it will automatically drop your block once the 'stored' value is high enough. I sat there and let an ogrim hit me, and my block dropped around 70% stam remaining since I had enough attacks 'stored.'

This means that this is a MAJOR problem for PvE tanks right now, since this is causing us to run out of resources much faster than normal, especially if we intend to do anything other than hold block in an encounter. You know, like taunt the boss...

This bug is killing dungeons for me. I do dungeons daily but with this bug, I can't. I main as a Tank and have since the beginning. I tested this after reading it here and watching YouTube video about it and it's exactly as described. Completely defeats the purpose of blocking and tanking. This is NOT a small bug, this is a MAJOR bug that needs addressing immediately not in a few weeks time. It's breaking the game. I won't do dungeons till it's fixed in a timely manner and if it isn't I'll just move on to a game that works. Have cancelled my ESO plus meantime till it's fixed. Thanks and GL.

Mauin wrote: »

Edit:
Wrong about that, as it turns out. It's something with the One Hand and Shield line itself. I equipped a white quality shield with no trait on it and, despite the lack of Sturdy gear, the bug returned. Might be a broken passive.

oof, just tested on one of my throwaway farmers, and that's true. He's got sturdy gear but not problems.

I'm going to just pay to reskill my tank and see if I can find it....

Ok, so removing the passives did do something, but this is all kinds of weird.

I took out the SnB passives and put them back one by one, then went to find a mob to LA me while I looked at my stam.

Without the Fortress passive, it was weird, but consistent:
Block cost - 1.6k
Attacks blocked cost: 1.6k, 0.8k, 1.6k
Extra 0.4k loss on dropping block

Not sure why I got a cheap block there, but it was consistent as I did those.

Putting the two points in Fortress changed things up:
Block cost: 1k
Attacks blocked cost: 0.3k, 1.0k, 0.2k
Extra 2.8k loss on dropping block.

I'm wondering if part of this is that it's not calculating block cost correctly, so the extra drop is just it catching up? But with Fortress, it just way overcompensates...

EDIT: one more test with this - I let the mob hit me with all of its attacks and marked which were heavies and projectiles (it was a 1H skeleton so it had the throw dagger and the heavy mixed in)
It attacked 10 times. Based on the character stats sheet the block cost was 1k per attack, so I should have lost 10k stam.


Ended up losing 14k total over the course. Lot of cheap blocks, but when I put my shield down at the end it all really caught up to me and then some.

So I went to test one of my other alts that's really not specced to do anything but overland and is wearing found gear and uses a bow. Had him get pummeled by some lions/archers in Blackwood.

I'm still seeing a loss on block. He should have a block cost of 1.5k, so it's much more consistent, but he's still got a loss on block. Until that last test - I noticed that some of the gear he was wearing was sturdy. Took that off (new block cost 1645) and found a bear, and no more loss on block.

So it seems that anything that reduces block cost will cause this problem. The more block cost reduction stuff you have, the more the stam on your bar doesn't match what it should be, and the more wildly it overcorrects once you drop block.

Just want to toss in a bump to this. Making it really, really hard to PvP on SnB builds because my stamina just depletes so incredibly fast. Hope this gets addressed asap.

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Just want to toss in a bump to this. Making it really, really hard to PvP on SnB builds because my stamina just depletes so incredibly fast. Hope this gets addressed asap.

I want to echo this sentiment.

Coupled with the CP changes, item set nerfs, and this wonderful bug, my main character is completely unplayable. I can adjust and live with the balance changes, because we all must. Yet this bug actively makes playing the game unfun and I have no desire to play until they fix this. Whenever that may be.

I'm assuming this will go live anyway with the console release. It's so amazing to have a subpar, non-functioning product that continues to deteriorate every month. It's just a miserable experience.

I want to confirm the bug, it isn't too bad at times when tanking trials but is noticeable when bar swapping frequently. still can block cast thankfully.

Sythen88411 wrote: »

Was it fixed with maintenance

Nope, I'm still losing a ton of stam when I stop blocking, and losing stam randomly in between taking hits.

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Looks like they found a way to make Gaze of Sithis more appealing...

Bang on.

Just to add me to the list of people that stopped playing the game because of this bug. I mostly do battleground, most of my builds are SnB backbar. I'm always out of stamina, pointless to keep playing until this bug is fixed.

Noldornir wrote: »

mobicera wrote: »

Bashing removed, reason: not enough stamina!

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I encourage you to take a moment to read HERE as if this bugs goes tomorrow on console version live that's what I'll do and recomend all my guilds (one i own, other i'm in) to do the same.

Also I hightly suggest you to review your communication protocols, the tendency that you guys have to be inconsistent when it matters is alarming and if we compare it with the speed that you have to remove unwanted messages it reminds me of a dictator-like censorship.

Basically your communication protocol on the forum is this:


User= There is SAID bug
ZOS= 90% wont even reply - 5% reply without even reading carefully the message and propose canned solutions (reboot net and such) - 5% reply "looking into it please be patient" (then no updates, no ETA, nothing anymore.

How can you expect ppl to stay "cool" when you are conning them? (We paid, and pay, for a working game not a prototype).

ESO features one of the most intriguing combat system on the scene but you ZOS are killing it, for the sake of this game: SELL IT to another company as you are clearly not intrested, or up to the task, of keeping it alive.

I think they are interested but do not have the skills.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone,

We got confirmation this morning that a fix for the block cost issue reported in this thread will be going into the next PC/Mac and Stadia incremental patch (on June 14.)

If there is a fix, why is this not instant? Why are we waiting another week?