Mystery Meat is not reportable.

PizzaCat82 · May 2021

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Interactable objects have priority over other items, especially when you're using a controller instead of a mouse. If someone places a meat close enough in front of a banker, or merchant, or writ board, you WILL interact with that meat first instead of the other object.

Do I think it should be reportable? Not really. I don't think it should be interactable by other people either, you wanna puke, you eat the meat.

Honestly you would be happier in solo player game? The complaint is trivial and no way is it close to harassment. Real harassment is being followed in store [snip] Hell lets go in game real harassment is waiting for quest givers in pvp to return quests at npc so you can kill them before turning in. How about constantly impersonating you in zone chat with similar name. I can keep going on, because this is very very small if we want to compare here.

By playing Multiplayer game you sign up to play with others and guess what people play jokes this isn't harassments it's a joke. Nobody is going following you banker and writs everywhere with mystery meat. This is nothing compared to bear blocking things as it's on ground. It's easily avoidable. Also frankly it's hard to see item on ground. Takes some bad luck to pick it up. Oh lets not forget animation lasts 10 secs maybe while a lot of other things last longer.

The item is designed to play a joke. I am sorry you can't handle jokes, but any claims that's is more then a joke is unfounded. The thread started off as wanted to report people for using mystery meat and that's unreasonable.

We'll have to agree to disagree because I can handle jokes, but I find the lack of consent for this item not in the right spirit for the game. I even find it a bit worse than mudballs because while mudballs may make it hard for costume dying, at least they don't invalidate your own button presses.

If I choose to go to Cyro or IC and I get killed, I'm not going here to make a huge post about it. Thats the whole point of me going there, and I know what I'm getting into.

Again, you don't get to choose what to be offended by and you certainly don't get to tell others to suck it up because there are worse things out there. There's always someone out there who has it worse. That doesn't mean no one can complain about anything.

You have to click it and look down for it to happen. There's your consent. Still you are defiantly playing double standards you want people to butcher people. But it's game... so little things like that shouldn't actually matter.

[snip] mudballs do not invalidate dyes anymore. Mystery meat is a choice you personal make and nobody is going around haunting you with mystery meat.

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Sounds like console only problem then or you aren't moving around. Meat is tiny compared to bear or cake and easy to resolve. Also happens way less then mystery meat

I understand you are frustrated but let's be real it's a very rare event.

I'm not frustrated (except other that to have to prove that an issue exists)

If it was a rare occurrence like it should be, I'm pretty sure no posts would be made on this forum.

But there's 1 guy on PS4-NA who does nothing put tells bad jokes in chat and drop Questionable Meat sacks in front of anything that people interact with regularly. I was fine with it for a while. Even laughed when I found out it was him, 2 years ago.

He still does it, every single day, when people log on to do their writs. Writ board: Meat. Merchant to sell stuff? Meat. I think even the most forgiving person would simply be tired of it.

Starlight_Whisper · May 2021

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RedMuse wrote: »

I'll never understand why some people think harassing others are funny.

Putting digital objects in front of digital characters is harassment?

It's not in most cases especially here as you can walk over item on ground. Most people don't even see it.

Interactable objects have priority over other items, especially when you're using a controller instead of a mouse. If someone places a meat close enough in front of a banker, or merchant, or writ board, you WILL interact with that meat first instead of the other object.

Do I think it should be reportable? Not really. I don't think it should be interactable by other people either, you wanna puke, you eat the meat.

Honestly you would be happier in solo player game? The complaint is trivial and no way is it close to harassment. Real harassment is being followed in store [snip] Hell lets go in game real harassment is waiting for quest givers in pvp to return quests at npc so you can kill them before turning in. How about constantly impersonating you in zone chat with similar name. I can keep going on, because this is very very small if we want to compare here.

By playing Multiplayer game you sign up to play with others and guess what people play jokes this isn't harassments it's a joke. Nobody is going following you banker and writs everywhere with mystery meat. This is nothing compared to bear blocking things as it's on ground. It's easily avoidable. Also frankly it's hard to see item on ground. Takes some bad luck to pick it up. Oh lets not forget animation lasts 10 secs maybe while a lot of other things last longer.

The item is designed to play a joke. I am sorry you can't handle jokes, but any claims that's is more then a joke is unfounded. The thread started off as wanted to report people for using mystery meat and that's unreasonable.

We'll have to agree to disagree because I can handle jokes, but I find the lack of consent for this item not in the right spirit for the game. I even find it a bit worse than mudballs because while mudballs may make it hard for costume dying, at least they don't invalidate your own button presses.

If I choose to go to Cyro or IC and I get killed, I'm not going here to make a huge post about it. Thats the whole point of me going there, and I know what I'm getting into.

Again, you don't get to choose what to be offended by and you certainly don't get to tell others to suck it up because there are worse things out there. There's always someone out there who has it worse. That doesn't mean no one can complain about anything.

You have to click it and look down for it to happen. There's your consent. Still you are defiantly playing double standards you want people to butcher people. But it's game... so little things like that shouldn't actually matter.

[snip] mudballs do not invalidate dyes anymore. Mystery meat is a choice you personal make and nobody is going around haunting you with mystery meat.

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Sounds like console only problem then or you aren't moving around. Meat is tiny compared to bear or cake and easy to resolve. Also happens way less then mystery meat

I understand you are frustrated but let's be real it's a very rare event.

I'm not frustrated (except other that to have to prove that an issue exists)

If it was a rare occurrence like it should be, I'm pretty sure no posts would be made on this forum.

But there's 1 guy on PS4-NA who does nothing put tells bad jokes in chat and drop Questionable Meat sacks in front of anything that people interact with regularly. I was fine with it for a while. Even laughed when I found out it was him, 2 years ago.

He still does it, every single day, when people log on to do their writs. Writ board: Meat. Merchant to sell stuff? Meat. I think even the most forgiving person would simply be tired of it.

So there's easy way to resolve this. You want it to stop correct. Just block them and you should no longer be in same instance every again with them unless fur someone reason you share a guild or are friends.

In the future you should start off posts better. If you had been like in the beginning people would of took side.

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You could also go to a different writ board.

TequilaFire · May 2021

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Interactable objects have priority over other items, especially when you're using a controller instead of a mouse. If someone places a meat close enough in front of a banker, or merchant, or writ board, you WILL interact with that meat first instead of the other object.

Do I think it should be reportable? Not really. I don't think it should be interactable by other people either, you wanna puke, you eat the meat.

Honestly you would be happier in solo player game? The complaint is trivial and no way is it close to harassment. Real harassment is being followed in store, because you are wrong skin color. Getting stopped by cops, because you are walking on street, while you walking home in nurse outfit or got a white girl in car. Hell lets go in game real harassment is waiting for quest givers in pvp to return quests at npc so you can kill them before turning in. How about constantly impersonating you in zone chat with similar name. I can keep going on, because this is very very small if we want to compare here.

By playing Multiplayer game you sign up to play with others and guess what people play jokes this isn't harassments it's a joke. Nobody is going following you banker and writs everywhere with mystery meat. This is nothing compared to bear blocking things as it's on ground. It's easily avoidable. Also frankly it's hard to see item on ground. Takes some bad luck to pick it up. Oh lets not forget animation lasts 10 secs maybe while a lot of other things last longer.

The item is designed to play a joke. I am sorry you can't handle jokes, but any claims that's is more then a joke is unfounded. The thread started off as wanted to report people for using mystery meat and that's unreasonable.

We'll have to agree to disagree because I can handle jokes, but I find the lack of consent for this item not in the right spirit for the game. I even find it a bit worse than mudballs because while mudballs may make it hard for costume dying, at least they don't invalidate your own button presses.

If I choose to go to Cyro or IC and I get killed, I'm not going here to make a huge post about it. Thats the whole point of me going there, and I know what I'm getting into.

Again, you don't get to choose what to be offended by and you certainly don't get to tell others to suck it up because there are worse things out there. There's always someone out there who has it worse. That doesn't mean no one can complain about anything.

You have to click it and look down for it to happen. There's your consent. Still you are defiantly playing double standards you want people to butcher people. But it's game... so little things like that shouldn't actually matter.

[snip] mudballs do not invalidate dyes anymore. Mystery meat is a choice you personal make and nobody is going around haunting you with mystery meat.

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Uh, just walk away removing focus? You don't have to press "X". (console)
But if you are a click on everything with out thinking type, well yeah.
Try not standing on the meat. lol

ZOS_ConnorG · May 2021

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SilverBride · May 2021

I agree that mystery meat isn't actionable in most cases because the player has a choice whether to interact with it or not. Unless it's repeatedly placed in a way to disrupt another player's other action. Then it becomes harassment.

The real problem is that items that cause this much conflict among the playerbase even exist. It's a bad choice to introduce things into a game that can be used as a means of harassment.

This could easily be fixed if they included a toggle to interact with these objects or not. Then those who keep it on will still be able to have their "fun", while those who have it off won't even realize they had been targeted.

TequilaFire · May 2021

Except you can't "target" a specific player.
And I have never in 7 years heard any complaints in game on two platforms.

SilverBride · May 2021

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Except you can't "target" a specific player.
And I have never in 7 years heard any complaints in game on two platforms.

You can target specific players with mudballs, flowers and other similar mementos. There have been threads about these items more than once because a lot of players find them annoying at best. That's why it would be nice to have a toggle for all intractable items because not everyone finds them fun.

I used to have a friend who would constantly pelt me with flowers every time we got together to quest or just hang out. Once ok. But over and over was more than a little annoying. I asked him to stop every time. He didn't. We are no longer friends. (There were other issues too but this was part of it.)

TequilaFire · May 2021

But the subject of the thread is mystery meat and you can only place that.
And most of the other items you mentioned are not interactable by the target and thereby unavoidable except by maybe dodging. Apples and oranges.
I yield the horse has died. lol

SilverBride · May 2021

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But the subject of the thread is mystery meat and you can only place that.
And most of the other items you mentioned are not interactable by the target and thereby unavoidable except by maybe dodging.

They are all meant to target another player or be placed where another player may interact with it. In the case of the mystery meat, it wouldn't show as being intractable to those who toggle it off.

FluffWit · May 2021

It's a two second animation and the memento has to be placed with a 60 second cool down.

Mudballs on the other hand....

Girl_Number8 · May 2021

Hmmm, have whole guilds running around feeding everyone mystery meat....jk

Well, if there is one overachieving offender making your life hell, post some screens. It is really hard to fathom this as a problem without them. I mean, I do not see flocks of players spamming out mystery meat.

So report the offender and let ZOS decide....

spartaxoxo · May 2021

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Again, you don't get to choose what to be offended by and you certainly don't get to tell others to suck it up because there are worse things out there. There's always someone out there who has it worse. That doesn't mean no one can complain about anything.

Nope. You don't get to pick. They don't even get to pick. If it's reasonable or unreasonable. And when you realize your offense is a "you" problem rather than something society needs to change, learning to self-manage it.

I cannot stand ketchup. I have a hatred of it so intense that it makes me physically ill to eat(but only if I know I ate it because the symptoms are entirely psychosomatic). I cannot stand the smell of ketchup either. When I was a little kid, I didn't even want to hand a bottle over to people because of the smell.

Yet, that's my hangup. Objectively, nobody is harassing me by eating ketchup in my vicinity. I learned to tune out the smell. And simply decline dishes with ketcup. I don't attempt to prevent anyone else from eating. Because that is MY issue. My dislike of it is NOT reasonable. I kinda wish I hated it less because it's everywhere. But, that's about it. I'd never want a waiter fired for putting it on my burger. I'd never refuse to eat with someone eating it. I'll pass it along if it's asked.

Just because you're offended by something doesn't mean anyone is doing anything wrong.

You chose to play a video game where items are given to prank each other and pranks are literally celebrated with a special event. You chose to put yourself in that situation. So it's not reasonable to act as if anyone did anything wrong, let alone want them banned, for playing the game how it's intended. Your the unreasonable one for that.

You accept that you may get a prank every now again and ask the person to do it to stop. If they follow you around doing it anyway, only then is it harassment. That's the only valid harassment policy in this game as it stands. You don't ban people for using a product as it was intended.

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SilverBride · May 2021

Some players, such as myself, find being pelted with objects annoying. The player who is tossing the objects needs to accept that not everyone is going to enjoy their idea of fun, and what they want is no more valid than the what the other player may or may not want. The person being annoyed does not have to just accept it.

This is why these type objects are a bad idea, because they do nothing but stir up conflict. We need a toggle in place so those who don't want to participate don't have to.

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Dark_Lord_Kuro · May 2021

It no big deal, its just a few second out of your life
Annoying? maybe but nothing more than that

The person as the right to use these item just as you have the right to dislike them

spartaxoxo · May 2021

wanting to have people banned from a video game for using an item the way that it was intended, merely because you dislike it is NOT reasonable.

Painting innocent people as harassers and bad people because they do something harmless, merely because you don't like it is unreasonable.

Asking for a toggle so you don't have to participate is reasonable. Asking the developers to change it to group only or something is also reasonable.

You don't have to like pranks. But you do have to be able to understand that other people do. And that you are playing a game where pranking is intended behavior and part of the game. Since that is the case, that you're playing a game with pranking strangers as a CELEBRATED part of the environment, you have to accept that sometimes you'll be pranked until the devs add a toggle. You cannot reasonably expect everyone else to cater to your tastes in a game designed partially designed around their tastes. That is not reasonable.

What you can do however is ask the devs to make it easier for you not to participate.

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SilverBride · May 2021

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What you can do however is ask the devs to make it easier for you not to participate.

Just because I play a game where pranks are possible does not make me obligated to be a target. I know some players enjoy them, but many don't. Empathy goes both ways.

And there have been threads up asking for a way to toggle these off. It is the only fair solution so everyone can choose whether or not to participate, rather than being forced into it for someone else's fun.

spartaxoxo · May 2021

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What you can do however is ask the devs to make it easier for you not to participate.

Just because I play a game where pranks are possible does not make me obligated to be a target.

It is NOT just "possible." It is a normal part of gameplay. And they cannot POSSIBLY know you don't want to partipate ahead of time.

So yes, it is. I don't go into PVP and then claim people should be banned for killing me. I don't go into first person shooters and complain that people are harassers for shooting me. I don't go into a burger joint and demand someone be fired if my waiter gives me ketchup. I just politely ask for a new burger and explain my situation.

Empathy towards you comes from people stopping when you ask. Not changing their entire way of playing the game to cater to your tastes.

You are not asking for empathy to go "both ways" when you demand people stop pranking in a game with pranking under threat of banishment. You are demanding your personal taste be made paramount. And completely ignoring the immense problems you are causing for others by false accusations and attempting to get them punished for it.

And there have been threads up asking for a way to toggle these off. It is the only fair solution so everyone can choose whether or not to participate, rather than being forced into it for someone else's fun.

And I support those. That's a perfectly reasonable way to handle things. Falsely calling people harassers and trying to get them banned is not.

SydneyGrey · May 2021

If the devs didn't want people to actually use mystery meat, they woudn't have made it a memento.

Basically, new players get taken in by the prank once, (usually) laugh it off, then they just don't click on it again. It's just light-hearted fun.

SilverBride · May 2021

SydneyGrey wrote: »

If the devs didn't want people to actually use mystery meat, they woudn't have made it a memento.

Basically, new players get taken in by the prank once, (usually) laugh it off, then they just don't click on it again. It's just light-hearted fun.

If the developers didn't want people to actually PvP, or decorate houses, or run dungeons and trials, or do quests they wouldn't have made those possible either. We are not required to participate in every aspect of the game. What is wrong with having a toggle so we can choose if we want to participate in pranks or not?

SydneyGrey · May 2021

SilverBride wrote: »

If the developers didn't want people to actually PvP, or decorate houses, or run dungeons and trials, or do quests they wouldn't have made those possible either. We are not required to participate in every aspect of the game. What is wrong with having a toggle so we can choose if we want to participate in pranks or not?

Nothing wrong with having a toggle for it. I just don't think it's necessary for mystery meat. Just don't pick it up.
It's different with mudballs, since you can't choose to opt out of being smacked with them. It might be nice to have a toggle where you can opt-out of being splattered with mudballs, for those people who don't like it.

StevieKingslayer · May 2021

People doing something to you once or twice is not harassment. If you don't like it, ignore it until they give you a toggle and ask them to stop.

I hate having mudballs thrown at me, You know what I do? I pull out mine and chase them down and throw it back, and yell something lore friendly in say chat and then it's a laugh and they go on their way. You guys trying to ban people for having fun is so damn sad no wonder people run around mudballing you.

Try having some fun in your life. Fun police.

spartaxoxo · May 2021

SilverBride wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

If the devs didn't want people to actually use mystery meat, they woudn't have made it a memento.

Basically, new players get taken in by the prank once, (usually) laugh it off, then they just don't click on it again. It's just light-hearted fun.

If the developers didn't want people to actually PvP, or decorate houses, or run dungeons and trials, or do quests they wouldn't have made those possible either. We are not required to participate in every aspect of the game. What is wrong with having a toggle so we can choose if we want to participate in pranks or not?

Nothing. The opening post implies they want people banned for it. That's a lot different than asking for a toggle.

Starlight_Whisper · May 2021

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

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What you can do however is ask the devs to make it easier for you not to participate.

Just because I play a game where pranks are possible does not make me obligated to be a target.

It is NOT just "possible." It is a normal part of gameplay. And they cannot POSSIBLY know you don't want to partipate ahead of time.

So yes, it is. I don't go into PVP and then claim people should be banned for killing me. I don't go into first person shooters and complain that people are harassers for shooting me. I don't go into a burger joint and demand someone be fired if my waiter gives me ketchup. I just politely ask for a new burger and explain my situation.

Empathy towards you comes from people stopping when you ask. Not changing their entire way of playing the game to cater to your tastes.

You are not asking for empathy to go "both ways" when you demand people stop pranking in a game with pranking under threat of banishment. You are demanding your personal taste be made paramount. And completely ignoring the immense problems you are causing for others by false accusations and attempting to get them punished for it.

And there have been threads up asking for a way to toggle these off. It is the only fair solution so everyone can choose whether or not to participate, rather than being forced into it for someone else's fun.

And I support those. That's a perfectly reasonable way to handle things. Falsely calling people harassers and trying to get them banned is not.

This was well said. I feel enlighten and can use knowledge elsewhere. Thank you

Starlight_Whisper · May 2021

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

If the devs didn't want people to actually use mystery meat, they woudn't have made it a memento.

Basically, new players get taken in by the prank once, (usually) laugh it off, then they just don't click on it again. It's just light-hearted fun.

If the developers didn't want people to actually PvP, or decorate houses, or run dungeons and trials, or do quests they wouldn't have made those possible either. We are not required to participate in every aspect of the game. What is wrong with having a toggle so we can choose if we want to participate in pranks or not?

Nothing. The opening post implies they want people banned for it. That's a lot different than asking for a toggle.

Real question is worth actual development time. We still have long standing bugs in game and quality of life improvements that would have far more reaching impact.
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Supertonicbaker · May 2021

I’m THAT person that randomly pelts people with pies and mudballs. But it’s always dependent on the situation I’m in and mostly for RP purpose as I’m a necro-clown in game. Well, a playing card inspired character from the Deadlands, really.

For example, I run up to a dolmen that’s just got finished. I’m the type of person that likes seeing his map complete 100%. So I wait. Then comes someone else and we stand there. If I see them start goofing around, they’re getting a pie/mudball. Someone throws a mudball at me? They’re getting a mudball/pie. If they keep tossing them back, so will I. I’ve got around 600 pies and a never ending mudball pouch, I can go all night. If you’re just standing there as if you’re afk, and not notice this playing card running up to you? You get a pie.

I don’t, however, follow people around the map and continually bother them while they’re doing their thing as it’s supposed to just be a fun little thing, not to be a jerk. After all, life is a game. You wouldn’t want to remove these fun things and make this clown playing card cry, would you?

DukeCybran · May 2021

Being pranked once or twice may be fun, but again and again? No, and that lies the problem when it comes to reporting someone: by their conduct or their frequency of performing a 'prank'?

Besides, there does exist a difference between mudballing people and traping a victim with 10s animation, the latter being the same as conjuring a cake during a dolmen pug time and time again.

SeaGtGruff · May 2021

It's definitely a complex question with no easy answers, and I imagine that each case must go through a review process to determine whether something "crossed the line." I'm glad I don't work for ZOS and have the task of investigating reports and trying to figure out where that line might be and whether or not it might have been crossed.

Personally, unless there's an event going on I just ignore any mudballs or pies I might get hit with. And as for mystery meat, I don't think I've ever been pranked with it-- yet.

One of my PC NA alts is an Orc who's, shall we say, rather homely looking. For a time I decided to try collecting those pieces of outfits you commonly find in containers-- boots, gloves, trousers, shirts, etc.-- and decided to remove all armor from my alts (since I wasn't questing with them, just doing crafting writs) and try to assemble outfits for each one by mixing and matching different pieces of clothing into "street clothes" for them. Some looked sort of okay, others not so much, but it actually helped me start to imagine what each one's personality and personal tastes might be. My Orc came out looking a bit like a hideously ugly old dude with a sort of country workclothes look, and back when I had each alt stationed in a different city he'd often get a mudball or pie thrown at him as he went through his daily crafting writs and riding lessons in Rimmen. But he'd grown up being constantly ribbed and worse for his looks-- he has a craggy face only a mother Orc could love-- so he just lets any jeers or pies or mudballs roll off of him like water off a bantam guar's back. I'm not sure how old he is-- pretty old; his hair turned white long ago-- but over the years he's grown inured to any abusive ribbing. I eventually gave up my "street clothes" phase, and since he's a MagCro he now goes around in a robe he acquired as a level-up reward, but in general he doesn't get nearly as much grief in Vivec City as he used to in Rimmen.

Anyway, as a player I try to just ignore any pranks that other players might try to pull on my characters, and just go about my characters' business in a state of obliviousness to their surroundings, the way people usually tend to tune out the hubbub and cacophony of background noise as they walk down a crowded sidewalk in a busy city.

But I also appreciate that other players might not find things as easy to shrug off and ignore.

Ragged_Claw · May 2021

I always stop and eat mystery meat when I see it, it makes me laugh and makes the other player happy that I 'fell' for their prank. In 7 years I have never seen it put in front of writ boards/bankers etc. (although I'm not saying that doesn't happen). I love the idea of sticking it in front of bot trains though, gonna definitely try that later!

I guess that the only fair way to go would be a toggle. It is certainly not harrassment though, unless one specific player targets you continuously, following you and interfering with your gameplay, and that can happen with or without mementos or the ability to toggle them off because some people do get off on griefing. In other words, it's not the fault of the mystery meat and if a player is dead set on actually harrassing you they will just find another way to do so. #FreetheMeat

SilverBride · May 2021

I agree that the context has a lot to do with whether or not it's harassment. But what if a player just finds it irritating? Isn't that a good enough reason to not want to participate?

I know it's part of the game and meant to be used, but it what situation? Was it meant as a fun thing among friends? Or did they intend it to be used on random strangers? We don't know what their actual intentions were.

Regardless, I think it's a really bad idea on ZoS's part to create items like this without giving players a way to decline participating, because it does cause conflict among the playerbase.

WiseSky · May 2021

RedMuse wrote: »

I'll never understand why some people think harassing others are funny.

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