Sarannah wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

You guys are forgetting these mounts were previously unobtainable!! Unobtainable, as in lottery lucky. So yeah, the prices are fair in my opinion.

Compared to the other mounts for 400 gems, and the gem exclusives for 600 gems, this really is in line with what I was expecting. Due to their rarity, and as an incentive to buy crates to get lucky.

Just out of curiosity. At which gem price would you draw the line?

I was guessing the prices would be between 2.5k-3k. Which I was expecting the highest to be, while expecting the other two to be around 1.8k-2k. The price that would be too much for even me to accept, would be 3k+. As by then the rarity no longer outweights the gemprice, atleast in my opinion.

I usually try crates to get every mount/pet from the crates(non radiant/non apex), and end up between 1k-2k gems. By then I decide to just buy those with gems, as they are only 100 gems tops. And the chances to get a radiant apex are practically zero. With the current gemprices for radiant apex's, I would probably buy some more crates to complete the leftover amount. And actually get a radiant apex.

This means you’re basically spending several hundreds of dollars per crate season. I mean, it’s your money and you can do with that what you want, but I find this pretty insane and it’s a reason why ZOS keeps this practice going. You’re spending a four figure sum per year in the cash shop, most likely while you’re keeping ESO+ at the same time - ZOS couldn’t be happier about a customer like you.

Again, it’s your money and your choice and I’m no one to judge you on your spendings. I just find the reasoning / practice behind loot crates despicable, as exactly that happens what you’re describing.

After all, there is no longer any reason to complain that particularly rare apex mounts would suddenly appear everywhere - with those gem-prices there will probably not be many people who are actually taking "advantage" of the new purchase option.

I was thinking starting price around 1000. So 1200 wasn't far off and perhaps a decent price. 1600 is pushing it and 2500 is ridiculous. I feel bad for the people that have no self control. This is going to be a painful and expensive crate run for them.

Kagukan wrote: »

I was thinking starting price around 1000. So 1200 wasn't far off and perhaps a decent price. 1600 is pushing it and 2500 is ridiculous. I feel bad for the people that have no self control. This is going to be a painful and expensive crate run for them.

It's actually pushing me the other way!

Before, I'd buy some crates every week. Roll the dice. See what happens. Get some gems. Pick up what I want with the gems I'd gathered.

Now I'm like... nope. That price point makes it a little too obvious what the developers think of us who would play the crate game.

1,200 feels right on point.

Until prices are adjusted to be a little more respectful, I think i'll take a crate break.

(...or until they release one I can't live without. Lmao)

These Are grossly overpriced, and ZOS should be ashamed of themselves for even considering these prices.

It’s around $35 us dollars to buy 15 crates pack, when buying the 21000 gems at $150 dollars. Say you get 10 gems per crate which is generous I believe. You get 150 gems per 15 crate pack. Let’s up this to 200 gems per crate just to be overly fair. You need 6 pack to get 1200 gems or $210 for the wolf or $280 at 150 gems per 15 crate pack.

In short,
Wolf is $210 - $280 US dollars or $245 on average.
Horse is $280 - $373 US dollars or $327 on average.
Cat is $437 - $583 US dollars or $510 on average.

“He who is not contented with what he has, would not be contented with what he would like to have.” ― Socrates

Stay safe and enjoy the journey 😊

PS. ZOS stop the micromanagement of the green tree 🥺

Seraphayel wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

You guys are forgetting these mounts were previously unobtainable!! Unobtainable, as in lottery lucky. So yeah, the prices are fair in my opinion.

Compared to the other mounts for 400 gems, and the gem exclusives for 600 gems, this really is in line with what I was expecting. Due to their rarity, and as an incentive to buy crates to get lucky.

Just out of curiosity. At which gem price would you draw the line?

I was guessing the prices would be between 2.5k-3k. Which I was expecting the highest to be, while expecting the other two to be around 1.8k-2k. The price that would be too much for even me to accept, would be 3k+. As by then the rarity no longer outweights the gemprice, atleast in my opinion.

I usually try crates to get every mount/pet from the crates(non radiant/non apex), and end up between 1k-2k gems. By then I decide to just buy those with gems, as they are only 100 gems tops. And the chances to get a radiant apex are practically zero. With the current gemprices for radiant apex's, I would probably buy some more crates to complete the leftover amount. And actually get a radiant apex.

This means you’re basically spending several hundreds of dollars per crate season. I mean, it’s your money and you can do with that what you want, but I find this pretty insane and it’s a reason why ZOS keeps this practice going. You’re spending a four figure sum per year in the cash shop, most likely while you’re keeping ESO+ at the same time - ZOS couldn’t be happier about a customer like you.

Again, it’s your money and your choice and I’m no one to judge you on your spendings. I just find the reasoning / practice behind loot crates despicable, as exactly that happens what you’re describing.

Actually, except for one time where ZOS had some limited time house to buy, I always buy crowns for 40% off. The last time I bought ESO+ was a few years ago, when they had their ESO+ sale(only 20 days left now) for 40% off as well. I will probably renew this without a sale though, unless ZOS does a sale anytime soon.

Normally I buy 6x15 of the new crown crates(sometimes more sometimes less, depending on luck and how much I like what is in them). Which is 6x5000 = 30.000 crowns. Crownpacks on sale are about 75€, so for me that is about 110€ - 120€ per crate season. Which is quite cheap, for a main hobby. There are also seasons which I skip entirely, as I didn't like them at all. And only got some of the smaller items for gems from them.

If I were to start at 0 crowngems, and would want the radiant apex's, then yes it would be more expensive. But if one buys crowncrates every season, it eventually comes down to which radiant apex would someone want to spend their accumulated crowngems on. As crowngems stack up over time. Getting every radiant apex would be too expensive and unrealistic, in my opinion.

I got about 900 gems from this ayleid season. (already had 1.7k gems) And still in doubt about what to do, either buy a mount now, or wait for coming seasons if they might have better ones. (For a test like this, ZOS should have put every existing radiant apex up for gems for a limited time. As that would give a better understanding of if people are willing to buy radiant apex's like this.)

PS: Crowncrate seasons last 3 months, so this comes down to about 40€ per month for crates alone. Add ESO+, and buying some other stuff from the crownstore to that, and lets call it 80€ per month for a main hobby. This is not that bad!

Sarannah wrote: »

(For a test like this, ZOS should have put every existing radiant apex up for gems for a limited time. As that would give a better understanding of if people are willing to buy radiant apex's like this.)

On the surface, it is nice that ZOS has put these mounts into the store for Gems because some people have accumulated too many Gems and this is a cool way to spend them. Looking deeper, the reason is so that these same people will have more reason to spend Gems, and more reason to buy Crown Crates. Goal: More to spend Gems on, so players are buying Crown Crates simply to farm Gems.

With that accomplished, the next mission is to make sure that the player does not sit on Gems because they are waiting for a specific mount to come up. Fence sitters. That scenario ends in the same place that this whole thing started. Players have accumulated Gems while waiting for that special shiny to spend it on. Goal: Discourage hoarding of Gems, as this can have the effect of reducing sales of the Crown Crates.

If players do not know what is coming, and they see something they like in the store now, they are more likely to buy it. If they are saving their Gems for the glorious return of that special rainbow unicorn mount, they might get all teary-eyed at the current shiny, but not buy it.

ZOS wants them to buy that shiny now. Pile depleted, the player starts building up a new Gem pile so that they can buy the next season's shiny. Repeat. Oh, and when they finally do put that special shiny in the store, buy that, too.

As I see it, that is why they did not put all of the radiant apex mounts into the store for a limited time.

So last night I opened 30 crates using crowns I had from ESO+. From those 30 crates I was able to get around 350 gems. You do the math on how much those radiant apex mounts would cost at that rate.

I’m saving all my gems for those wild hunt crates. 🥳 After I get what I need from those, I will consider buying more of these Aeylid (sp?) crates. I still need the symphony of blades weapons too. 🤔 I need a crown sale, please 🥺