I'm starting to wonder if people are planning on paying a monthly sub for this game, just to come on here, doss up a post like this, and then sit at the PC screen hoping the cyber friends will come flooding in.

MMeeeeee they are talking to meee on my posssttt mine.. I have friendsss..... finallly yeeessss.....

Quite honestly, all the facts about bugs, botters and spams, were as clearly posted on here, as best as they ever could be, a good few days ago.

When posting this, you knew 100% is was adding nothing. It wasn't constructive critisim, It wasn't anything new what so ever..

All it was doing is getting yourself attention, like a child repeating that funny thing mom and dad said hoping for the same reaction.

It's pitiful really. especially when I gather your age is above 16 years of age, inyet your rational behavior isn't.

Your post here is a troll post. Nothing more, it will accomplish nothing.

At least when boogie does a video as francis to entertain, a lot like Angry Joe, you're just another ugly blemish we wait to slide down the plug hole when the free time ends.

I hope you stay left buddy. Truly. I'm sick of it, really sick of it.

Oh boo hoo you don;t care, well i'm not the only one sick of these dullsit posts, and yeah maybe you don't care about that too. I kinda gathered that, as that didn't come into your thinking when you decided to type out your second hand crap.

It isn't trying to save or help this game anymore it's just me me me me OH read mine please pleasseeee I definately type this troll bs better than the last 500 people.

Just leave man. Go and take your partner with you.

Maybe come back and try the game again in a few months, then if it isn't for you stay gone. It's a WIN, WIN then for everybody.

Yeah you've paid to play the game, yeah you have a right to post, and yeah yeah yeah to all the usual retorts.

Truth is though, your fecking boring. Real boring.

I'm not a fan boy, I like the game at the moment sure, I accept the bugs and hope they will be fixed, perhaps they won't be, and yeah ok if they aren't I'll stop paying.

....none of that justifies you, and the million other bandwagon jumpers of this utter, utter, negative shite on this forum. It's just making visiting the forums a real chore, and it's a shame because that's exactly what you, and the other ones like you aim for ultimately isn't it.

Take your bitterness and your sulking away lad. SHOO.

Yeah ZoS got owned by banning those bots! YEAH!!!

The fact that they couldn't see the future bots coming means they got owned! YEAH!

You keep using that word but I don't think you know what it means.

ZIKE wrote: »

I suspect the VR group is the group providing the primary source of income for these Gold Farming companies.

Well this was pretty obvious, anyone that is higher level than you, richer, happier or just better at the game MUST be either a goldbuyer or a cheater.

I know for a fact that angry losers like you are the primary source of income for the gold sellers, you think everyone else is cheating you, and the only way to be succesfull is cheating yourself.

Just visited a stonefall cave which I hadn't cleared yet. I'm veteran 1 at the moment. Then I saw it for the first time about 10 bots or more

There were a lot of Mage monsters there so I used this mobs to kill the bots and help the people get boss kills. Of course the bots kept respawining. It would be an endless battle.

But then a gm shows up and bans them all.

Awesome

Slash8915 wrote: »

Calaban wrote: »

nazgull2k1ub17_ESO wrote: »

THEY ARE CAMPING EVERY BOSS IN EVERY DUNGEON this game has. You cannot find ONE dungeon in this game right now without 10 templar bots in tutorial gear spear spamming the boss. NOT ONE.

This just isn't true.

In fact, I just went through a dungeon in Stormhaven - the name escapes me at the moment - and there were NO bots and barely any players camping the boss. I killed the boss 3x, got a blue, and got out of there.

You're being slightly dramatic, imo.

Gotta agree with you. I've been through many dungeons leveling up to VR2, and I haven't seen a single bot in a dungeon. NOT ONE. Lol. I've only seen them standing at wayshrines, personally.

Agree. They may be bad in the super-low level starter zones, but once you get to the higher level zones and VR content you won't see many (any?) bots around. Resource nodes also become more plentiful and available.

kirnmalidus wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

Calaban wrote: »

nazgull2k1ub17_ESO wrote: »

THEY ARE CAMPING EVERY BOSS IN EVERY DUNGEON this game has. You cannot find ONE dungeon in this game right now without 10 templar bots in tutorial gear spear spamming the boss. NOT ONE.

This just isn't true.

In fact, I just went through a dungeon in Stormhaven - the name escapes me at the moment - and there were NO bots and barely any players camping the boss. I killed the boss 3x, got a blue, and got out of there.

You're being slightly dramatic, imo.

Gotta agree with you. I've been through many dungeons leveling up to VR2, and I haven't seen a single bot in a dungeon. NOT ONE. Lol. I've only seen them standing at wayshrines, personally.

Agree. They may be bad in the super-low level starter zones, but once you get to the higher level zones and VR content you won't see many (any?) bots around. Resource nodes also become more plentiful and available.

Isn't it more realistic to say that these VR players simply power leveled at a rate faster then these bots? I'm seeing bots in the 40+ levels. At what point is a higher level zone considered higher level?

I've spent many hours in every zone taking time to do quests and to enjoy the game. You shouldn't suggest everyone power level quickly to out level the bots and get to the content that has yet to be touched by them.

nazgull2k1ub17_ESO wrote: »

nope, already gave it all away. Sorry. As for "powers" .. you are ABSOLUTELY right.. just one small problem.. THEY ARE CAMPING EVERY BOSS IN EVERY DUNGEON this game has. You cannot find ONE dungeon in this game right now without 10 templar bots in tutorial gear spear spamming the boss. NOT ONE. Common friggin sense dictates that another group will IMMEDIATELY replace the first.

Now.. the ONLY logic I can possibly see to this.. is that maybe that GM moved to another instance to ban more bots. In which case.. it's still an uphill losing battle they will NEVER win.. because the core mechanics of the game have designed them to fail.

I choose not to watch them get slaughtered anymore. That is all.

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They're not in every dungeon. At all. The first zone or 2 maybe they are in most, but at higher levels there are none. You and your wife must be a blast to hang around, being as how you're so completely reactionary.

Last night I noticed these low level bots turning in quests in Coldharbour (level 44+). Today, it was still going on. This is a 20min video of this in action. Note the video isn't edited, raw form.
http://youtu.be/Yt03Bar35MU?t=4s

nazgull2k1ub17_ESO wrote: »

Lady llarel's Shelter - looks like I hit the jackpot again. another group of templar bots..

I think my point is made. You found ONE dungeon without any bots in it.. congratulations.. you hit the ESO Lottery.. Enjoy.

Everyone else is in bot hell.

Actually, your point was:

"THEY ARE CAMPING EVERY BOSS IN EVERY DUNGEON this game has. You cannot find ONE dungeon in this game right now without 10 templar bots in tutorial gear spear spamming the boss. NOT ONE."

And I found one.

Just saying, stop with the drama. The bots are a problem...I wouldn't deny that for a second. I have been in many dungeons with bots and have been annoyed just like everyone else. I'm just saying that words have actual meaning so it's important to choose the right ones to the best of your ability.

As to the actual problem itself, I am confident that in time Zen will get a handle on this. Not calling you out, but I think we could all take a deep breath and relax a bit. It will get worked out.

The topic, is a dead horse. The topic ,like allllllll the others, starts, right from the bat, blaming the wrong source. IT's PLAYERS yes PLAYERS that are the problem.

This guy and his wife need to realize their fight (if they are genuinely disappointed gamers and not troll bandwagon jumpers, or devs from another game shite posting dun dun dun)is with the people buying gold.

Bots aren't here for the fun it.

Look the ESO guys have said they are aware and are trying to quench it. If any of the crap in the op post here has truth to it (not it happening in game but his personal experience) how do we not know the exercise was to see if what happened was going to happen.

Banning a group of bots and more appearing. The GM left after that, that whole exercise may have been to witness just that to see how active they are and how quick the turn around is.

I'm not pulling stuff out of my ass here i'm just thinking logically and thinking it will be gradual fixes in patches coming.


Oh and you know what, they claims of "oh but I won't be here then I'll never come back blah blah"....look you may go to wildstar or something, sure that's fine...

If however you were here due to your love for Elder Scrolls, then if it gets a lot better, of course you will be back, why the hell wouldn't you be. Who exactly are you trying to kid?

Stop stop this brattish melodrama. Makes me think a lot of you are autistic cave dwelling socialphobes who have real problems rationale, patience, and just gods honest logic.

Not happy don't play and don't pay. ESO works or not, it's not life threatening THIS IS ENTERTAINMENT... if all of this is truly even remotely getting you all pissy...

You need help, REAL, help.

stylernaku wrote: »

The topic, is a dead horse. The topic ,like allllllll the others, starts, right from the bat, blaming the wrong source. IT's PLAYERS yes PLAYERS that are the problem.

This guy and his wife need to realize their fight (if they are genuinely disappointed gamers and not troll bandwagon jumpers, or devs from another game shite posting dun dun dun)is with the people buying gold.

Bots aren't here for the fun it.

Look the ESO guys have said they are aware and are trying to quench it. If any of the crap in the op post here has truth to it (not it happening in game but his personal experience) how do we not know the exercise was to see if what happened was going to happen.

Banning a group of bots and more appearing. The GM left after that, that whole exercise may have been to witness just that to see how active they are and how quick the turn around is.

I'm not pulling stuff out of my ass here i'm just thinking logically and thinking it will be gradual fixes in patches coming.


Oh and you know what, they claims of "oh but I won't be here then I'll never come back blah blah"....look you may go to wildstar or something, sure that's fine...

If however you were here due to your love for Elder Scrolls, then if it gets a lot better, of course you will be back, why the hell wouldn't you be. Who exactly are you trying to kid?

Stop stop this brattish melodrama. Makes me think a lot of you are autistic cave dwelling socialphobes who have real problems rationale, patience, and just gods honest logic.

Not happy don't play and don't pay. ESO works or not, it's not life threatening THIS IS ENTERTAINMENT... if all of this is truly even remotely getting you all pissy...

You need help, REAL, help.

To be honest, your whole post is just as melodramatic and whiny as the guy you are addressing.

All you needed to say was:

"If you don't like the product, stop paying them. Come back when you feel like they have addressed the issues."

Which is exactly what I'm doing.

I'm sticking around the forums though because it's entertaining.

crush83 wrote: »

All you needed to say was:

"If you don't like the product, stop paying them. Come back when you feel like they have addressed the issues."

Which is exactly what I'm doing.

I'm sticking around the forums though because it's entertaining.

I did that with The Secret World... they doubled down on my issues and the entertainment on the forum ran out. Best of luck to you, though.

I wonder if the bots will continue once the subs kick in next week. As long as they don't interfere with game play and pay sub fees will they still be here or will anything be done about them. $> or <customer or $> or <loyalty this will tell you a lot about the future of ESO.

ibrockbottomed77_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

Why do you think the guy only spent 15 mins of his time?

The simple fact is , it would cost a LOT of man power to counter this , it is not viable.

Zen will eventually make a change that makes this less atractive , and only then this problem will be solved.

It actually wouldn't take a lot of manpower at all, it takes common sense and planning. First off, GM's have the ability to warp around the game world. They already know this is happening in every dungeon in the game. Get a list of the dungeons, set yourself a rotation and warp around...ban...move on to the next...ban etc. If I worked an 8 hour shift I'm quite certain I could cover every dungeon in this game multiple times over and ban a lot accounts along the way. Have 2 or 3 people doing this and it starts to overwhelm the botters. After a few times these folks will move on, just like they did in GW2 because the money it's costing them is more than what they make. The problem is the lack of consistency.

To COMPLETELY get bots out of the dungeons and keep them out would require a massive amount of manpower. BUT the problem with long term solutions is that it "appears" to the playerbase that nothing is being done (Blizzard has this problem). But this appears to actually be a viable solution: just have a small number of GM's go around and ban the bots that they see. This will not get rid of the bots, and it certainly won't keep them out, but it's a MASSIVE PR boost, because players will see "something being done" and pass the word around. This will, in turn, cause people to actually report bots (because they feel "something is being done"), when before they might have just ignored them or not gone to dungeons or even quit the game. Then, the people doing the long-term job of combatting botting behind the scenes can do their jobs easier too.

This is not something Blizzard would ever do (they've said so many times), but it appears that ZOS is willing to take this step.

Gisgo wrote: »

crush83 wrote: »

I'm sticking around the forums though because it's entertaining.

Thats just a nice way to say you are here to troll.

I wouldn't say that automatically. Like I said, I hung around and participated in The Secret World's boards for a couple months after I quit. Leaving the game didn't mean I had nothing to say, and it certainly didn't mean my grievances were invalid... particularly after they started bleeding more subs over exactly what pissed me off in the first place.