Greystag wrote: »

Where's the Angel Wings?

There are no angels in TES.

The Golder Armour?

The Outfit system was introduced in 2018.

The Holy Fire?

https://eso-skillbook.com/skillline/dawns-wrath

You keep saying there are no angels in ES but I keep seeing Angel Wings....

I will get a reply but there are no angels and I will reply bit there are angel wings then you will reply but there are no angels ... and I will reply but there are angel wings... shall we go on?

What doest the outfit system and poor looking armour sets in eso had to do with a skill showing a 3d visual effect over the top of my armour?

All 3 templar ultimates suck... in looks and power... mostly power. So underwhelming.

I love templar. My first character (and the one on which I'm working on 100% OW completion) was a stamplar, and though I have one of, just about, everything, templar is by far my favorite class.

I leveled a magplar to 50 long ago, and am currently leveling another one (Breton instead of Altmer), and having so much fun. I couldn't get into the first one I made, but I'm treating this one more like a melee class, and am having much more fun.

I've always thought subjective threads like this should be removed. The whole thing seems like bait for those who disagree. There is no right or wrong, but that won't stop people from trying to convince others.

Adam_Chattaway wrote: »

You keep saying there are no angels in ES but I keep seeing Angel Wings....

You do realise that wings doesn't equal angel wings? A lot of animals and creatures in Elder Scrolls have wings. Kynareth often have wings in her symbols, but it's more related to birds, because the sky and wind.

ADarklore wrote: »

Returning to the game and creating a new character... after having previously played ALL classes (except Necro), I chose to create a Magplar! Having played all the other classes, it is the ONLY class IMO that can seriously DPS -and- heal at the same time... and I can quickly switch to full healer in a blink. They have amazing versatility and like others have said, one of the few classes that can solo world bosses. People that talk about other classes that are better at healing... what... Templars have access to Restoration staff skills too!! Yet, we don't NEED them. We can dual destro staff and still do decent healing.

Any class can solo world bosses. Look up Hack the Minator on YouTube and chose a build. All classes can heal. Dragon Knight as just as good as a full heal if not better than Templar.

The class is far from peaches as you claim while wearing rose gold glasses playing the class.

mickeyx wrote: »

Adam_Chattaway wrote: »

mickeyx wrote: »

Adam_Chattaway wrote: »

Massacre_Wurm wrote: »

Angel wings ? You can have it in pretty much any korean mmo. So no thanks.

Angels are Western culture thank you not Asian or have you not played a single Western RPG in the last 25 years?

What he means ia that it doesn't fit the theme of TES games and he is right.

In what way does it not fit? A Necromancer can turn into a 30 foot tall bone demon, I've never seen that in an es game before. Wardens have perma pets and dragon Knights can fly and whip people woth larva whips...

Are there any angels in TES?

Angelic looking wings on a god so you know... pretty much , if she can have wings why not a templar.

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

mickeyx wrote: »

Are there any angels in TES?

No.

Adam_Chattaway wrote: »

Angelic looking wings on a god so you know... pretty much , if she can have wings why not a templar.

On a single statue and a lamp is Meridia portrayed with wings. Meridia is a deadric prince, and templars are not followers of Meridia.

Templars also don't use spears made of light that jab jab and self heal but we have them in ESO so adding wings to make templar looks far less *** is not a bad thing.

I still abide by the idea of less is more that was mentioned earlier.

As has been pointed out, angelic motifs may be present, but that's not the same as having actual angels. It's also notable that said angelic motifs belong to Meridia, who is one of the settings' equivalents of a demonic god, rather than the more 'traditionally' God-like Aedra.

As a decorative feature, you'll find that wings in general are popular on helmets and shoulders, especially among the elves because of their preference for avian motifs as opposed to angelic. If you want a 'traditional', (Albeit unglowy), golden appearance, you might be well-served looking there.

Ultimately, I feel you are asking for something that is out of place within the Elder Scrolls setting. You say they aren't flashy enough, others among us say that they're too flashy as is. There are others still, I'm sure, looking on and wondering what we're all on about 'cause it's all fine as is.

At the end of the day, such flashy magical motifs are out of place and inconsistent with adventurers and soldiers throughout the Elder Scrolls setting, which is traditionally more grounded as other people have mentioned.

I respect your opinion that you prefer flashy effects and angelic motifs on your characters ala traditional depictions of Paladins in more modern media. I would ask that you in turn respect the opinions of others who don't want that level of flair within the setting for themselves.

I feel that you are too firmly entrenched in what you want to budge, just as I and others are too firmly entrenched in our own beliefs. Perhaps it might be best to let it lie, as I am doubtful we're ever really going to reach a happy medium or consensus on the topic, and I fear that it may devolve into needless faeces-slinging.

It would be nice if Zenimax would give us a set of toggles so that we can decide for ourselves how much flair we see on the screen, both for aesthetic reasons, and for the more practical ones that I outlined earlier that are more specific to me and others like me... but sadly I can't see that happening.

Finally, I would like to ask... What is it that you are hoping to achieve?

This sneering about lore is silly, as it is all based on writing and writing is based on real life.

There is no "lore," there is just what the developers are trying to put in their game. That they add or not add certain things is regardless of any in-game excuse for what is added.

Adam_Chattaway wrote: »

Their skills all look almost the same on the hot bar but the look of the skill themselves are soo underwhelming compared to the other classes especially the newer 2 classes. It's just all gold blobs of light, Where's the Angel Wings? the Golder Armour? The Holy Fire and so on... the most unique thing we have is a Spear jab which lets me honest could have looked far better than it does, when we armour buff we should get holy armour on our char like the necro gets bone armour and the warden gets ice... templar doesn't half look like crap.

I don't even have a templar but their skills look more satisfying then necro bouncing skull or stupid warden sky diver

Adam_Chattaway wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

I love my templar, yes the rotation is simple who I see as an benefit, now an DD / healer build is the opposite of easy.

Adam_Chattaway wrote: »

Athan1 wrote: »

Wdym, Templar and Nb are the most thematically cohesive classes, with a clear class identity. Other classes, esp the Warden feel like a jimble jamble of skills. Templars have a clear identity and a most pleasing theme: Aedric light magic.

Athan1 wrote: »

Wdym, Templar and Nb are the most thematically cohesive classes, with a clear class identity. Other classes, esp the Warden feel like a jimble jamble of skills. Templars have a clear identity and a most pleasing theme: Aedric light magic.

A rogue using and being magika based to me in not the most thematically...... looking class in the game neither is a holy warrior that looks lame lol.

An magic rogue however makes perfect sense in elder scroll, invisibility is kind of nice trying to hide.

Templar name is kind of stupid, I see them as an melee class who is good at healing, themselves for one but also others.
Spell strategist, zaan and SPC is one of my setups as an DD / heal.

I agree warden is a but messed up, too tied to Morrowind who makes no sense, feel like an Bosmer thing, secondary Nord or Khajiit not Dunmer.
However Necro is pretty well put together in my opinion.

Would have been great if the templar was made like a warrior priest in warhammer online where you are a melee healer and as you melee attack you heal those around you. No game ever or since warhammer has ever done this and it was the most fun healing I've ever played....

Age of Connan. Bear Shaman. Released about the same time. Aoe heals and buffs from melee. Played and loved both games.

I feel like the classes overall lack identity and they dont seem as unique as classes in other MMOs but more like in the end if feels like you are using the same abilities but with different colours

brimstone74 wrote: »

Age of Connan. Bear Shaman. Released about the same time. Aoe heals and buffs from melee. Played and loved both games.

Always such a surprise see that name show up, was a long time ago I played that. Completely forgot about healing there. Don't all healers work like that in AoC? They buff and throw area healing, but also dps a lot. Played a Tempest of Set mainly, and was pretty much the same thing. Just more snakes and lightning.

Adam_Chattaway wrote: »

Greystag wrote: »

Where's the Angel Wings?

There are no angels in TES.

The Golder Armour?

The Outfit system was introduced in 2018.

The Holy Fire?

https://eso-skillbook.com/skillline/dawns-wrath

You keep saying there are no angels in ES but I keep seeing Angel Wings....

I will get a reply but there are no angels and I will reply bit there are angel wings then you will reply but there are no angels ... and I will reply but there are angel wings... shall we go on?

What doest the outfit system and poor looking armour sets in eso had to do with a skill showing a 3d visual effect over the top of my armour?

All 3 templar ultimates suck... in looks and power... mostly power. So underwhelming.

I see wings. Not necessarily attached to angels. Wings on helms....eagle/gryphon wings, bird wings, dragon wings....more of those to be seen in-game than angels. Just because you are seeing angels everywhere doesn't mean there are angels everywhere.

And again you're baiting with "absolute statements". In your opinion the armor and outfit systems are "poor-looking". This game really doesn't seem to be living up to your expectations of bling, glitter, angels, and overpowered classes. This may not be the ideal game to spend your time in due to the constant bitter disappointment. And clearly you should not waste your time playing templar.