Syldras wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

This was evident when the first images of the game came out and what we saw basically looked like WoW. Extremely exaggerated caricature art style, huge shoulders, tab target combat, etc. everything about it was not the Elder Scrolls franchise people had become familiar with in TES III-V.

Do you have pictures of that?

You can find more here
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Screenshots

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/9azq17/eso_daggerfall_alpha_vs_now/

Vevvev wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

One thing I've noticed from the very beginning is that in the TES single player games, you actually venture out into the wilderness. There's a clear sense of exploration when leaving civilization behind to go into a dungeon or an unknown part of the map.

In ESO, I never had that feeling. For one, wherever you go, there's already someone there. That just comes with multiplayer, I guess. But the maps are also so dense, that every place feels civilized through and through. Traveling across the whole continent also is done with the click of a button that there is never any tension when going somewhere far out. The deepest dungeons feel just as far away from your door as your mailbox.

I'm not entirely sure how to approach a solution to this. I think what I'd like to see is something like an actual adventure zone that disables fast travel. No wayshrines. The further you go, the more dangerous things should become - yes, the lacking difficulty in overland zones contributes to this problem. A daedric realm might be a good place for something like this.

Oh, and spellcrafting. Especially for non-combat spells like waterwalking.

That's actually a good point you brought up, and it's made even worse by ZOS taking down the dense vegetation in the single player games. Western Skyrim around Labyrinthian is very heavily forested for instance and you can't see far, yet in ESO the trees are spread out and you have no trouble seeing for miles. Solitude is always visible in that zone unless you go behind a mountain, but then you're close to the edge of the zone and can't go farther without entering a new area.

I very much agree that Overland has a lack of trees and vegetation in too many places.

Murkmire didn’t have that problem

In terms of environment I’d like to see an increase in vegetation as well as atmospheric effects while exploring.
(Like the dungeons, places like Falkreath and Selene’s Web actually FEEL like forests.)

The game moving to better hardware may be opportunity for this.

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

For example, I'd love to see horses remain when you dismount until you unsummon them but that would create multiplayer problems in crowded areas so I 'get' why that is not a good idea for ESO.

I role play that I can only summon my mount at the location I dismounted. If it's a non magical mount.

Each mount has special way to summon it.

For example, I am currently playing Grathwood Rp style for the first time. And I roleplaye that the stable master had a mount for me, if I caught a rare fish for him. So he gave me the MossHeart indrik and I only summon it, from its "Magical moss forest plane" by saying an incantation and touching some moss on rock or tree near by. Since it's mounting animation is its popping into existence from who knows where.

A few ideas of mine and adding on to what others have said

Free Camera
I’d like an option for free camera in dialogue. No cut away to a close up, just walk up and talk and letting the player adjust the camera position in mid-dialogue. The seamless transition in and out of dialogue, with no extreme close up of the NPC, was marvelous and really added a sense of immersion.

I use NT Camera Add-on to achieve this in ESO.

Character Choice Matters
There could be more instances where my alliance, race, class, and skills affect dialogue and choices.

Example #1: let’s say I run into a person that needs healing and asked me to retrieve items to heal them.

I should have multiple avenues in handling the problem depending on my unlocked skills and items.
Whether I happen to have a specific potion on me or could make it with alchemy, or a have certain skills unlocked as a Templar or on the restoration staff skill line.

Example #2: Implement more instances in future zones where my alliance choice matters outside of PvP.
Like three Alliance camps or forts throughout the region (DC, AD, EP) and their friendliness & aggro is dependent on my alliance choice. (No immortal guards)
Along with this have an alliance specific quest line.

You could add a persuasion choice that basically says you’re not looking to make trouble. Or brings up what you did for Tamriel if you’ve done certain quests.

Magic Schools
We know that some places of ESO are exploring what we know as the traditional schools of magic.
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Proposal:_Schools_of_Magic

Whether through a new staff, “1Hand + Rune” skill line, or Spellcrafting (don’t hold your breath) I think ESO could benefit greatly from exploring Alteration, Mysticism, Thaumaturgy, and/or illusion.

Vegetation
Overland has a lack of trees and vegetation in too many places. I’d like to see an increase in vegetation for forested regions.

I definitely felt this in Morthal and the Rift, where trees were way too sparse that made it feel barren. While Dungeons like Falkreath and Selene’s Web actually FEEL like forests.
(Although Morthal isn’t exactly a forest the amount of trees were way too few in comparison to the single player game.)

Hopefully with the game moving to better hardware - they could make future forests feel like a forest.

Murkmire didn’t have that problem though tbf.
We’ll have to see what Blackwood looks like.

Weather Effects
Or rather more environmental effects like the wind passing through the snowy tundra.
a layer of Fog in the swamps of Morthal or mist in a dungeon.
Heavier snowfall, Blizzards, for northern reaches.
While places like center Black Marsh have a season of very heavy rain and a heavy mist which follows.

So a more dynamic weather and atmosphere system.

Water Overhaul
Waves, Tides, and going underwater.
Add Water breathing potions and give Argonians the water breathing passive.

Have areas that can be explored underwater. Implement swimming underwater into some delves. Adds a sense of exploration.

Maybe one day we’ll actually do something with ships but that’s for another time.

Combat
Implement a hierarchy for enemies in Overland and Delves.
For those that played Skyrim or other titles you may remember how certain enemies were more of a threat than others.
There was a difference between a standard Forsworn enemy and a Briarheart. The Briarhearts were very dangerous and when you saw one you knew you were in trouble.

Same case for bandits. There’s a difference between a Bandit and a Bandit Chief or Highwayman. Has more health, armor, damage, and abilities.

A Bear or a Sabertooth tiger was more dangerous than a Bandit. Then there were Trolls, which were very dangerous.

A Pyromancer is more dangerous than a Fire Mage.

A Draugr Deathlord is more of a threat than a normal Draugr.

You get the idea. Implement a hierarchy of Ranked enemies.
The higher the rank, the harder they are and the more they can do.

Example: Necromancers
- A low rank necromancer could summon one or two undead and have a couple of single target abilities.
- A high rank necromancer could summon multiple undead at a time and even a bone colossus.

Schedules and Random Encounters
Someone mentioned implementing a schedule for NPCs. Which is a good idea as that makes townsfolk more life like.

I’d like to see random encounters or something that’s as close to it as we can get.

Like things in the wild that wonder more and interact with other NPCs. There are ALOT of stationary animals that just sit in one place and don’t really interact.
Imagine if a wolf sees a fox and they chase after it. Or a small herd of deer traveling together.

This admittedly would be very complicated to pull off.

ealdwin wrote: »

Iccotak wrote: »

Character Choice Matters
There could be more instances where my alliance, race, class, and skills affect dialogue and choices.
....
Example #2: Implement more instances in future zones where my alliance choice matters outside of PvP.

Honestly, even if it was just more different dialogue based on our choice of alliance I'd be happy.

Definitely how I felt for AD and DC regions.

The fact that my alliance choice never really came up in Orsinium or Elsweyr was rather un-immersive.

ESO feels more Elder Scrolls than any other game before for sure.Oddly how mortals cannot spot all the little details and gorgeousness. ESO has been perfected,polished,improved,remastered,expanded and tis an on- ongoing process we we speak.

It strikes me harder than Lyr's Great-Ax how mortals complain or manage to find major flaws in overall immersion of feeling,world desgin, world INTERACTION and peerless freedom of choice.

The soundtrack is flawless,from moment you begin your tutorial and onwards. Every single place,zone,town,major city or point of interest feels unique and intriguing,captivating and engaging. It would require several bookshelves in Shalizor's Library to fill everything up to explain how magical ESO is.

Megaserver tech gives one massive sense of scale. It feel alive no matter where you go there are other players, massive amount of npcs can be interacted with. Every single one o them is voice -acted. There is lore mention on every single corner.

Armor,wepons,monster/foe design,racial ,Very deep character customization gives one ability to create and shape their character however they love.

FEEL is already there. its all waiting for thee,pause,stop pay attention to Npcs,read in game-lore books,do not rush, use First person view. You will be shocked how many you have missed. Do not use fast travel that often or mount. RP with others.

Sadly, Nostalgia runs potent in quite a number of players even to the point of mentioning TES4 Oblivion or Sykrim is unfair and severely outdated to compare. ESO has it all what any other previous ES had and was inspired by exactly these games including Morrowind to create super version that is eternally expanding *open up the Elder Scroll* I was in Solitude and outskirts at Frozen coast , All that Flora,Fauna,sounds,audio score,distant harrowstorm,npcs,other players,little details,best story-line every in any MMO ,even most simple o quests seem like a mini adventure. By Arkay's beard, the pleasure and inspiration is endless

Exactly why it feels ES so much is because its so un-restricted and lore-accurate, all these locations,places,ruins,creatures,entities,voice acting is top-notch as well btw and pretty much entire Tamriel so far, I am overwhelemed really, I do not understand certain souls, they have to accept previous ES games are relics now.

ESO is future and will be a shame to ask for more , Better question would be what does not feel Elder scrolls,They captured Nirin and beyond masterfully. ESO is one of very rares games that got greater by each passing year. Everything they add,from costumes,housing,new zones, story-line,skins,in combat super cute pets,mounts, I forgot to say how combat works to make it even more ESO They followed approach from before with any class having ability to use any weapon,line, manual blocking dodging all that adds to realism.

Tis actually very frightening more you play the more you get an insight how extraordinary complex and rich just about anything i, you can spend hours and hours exploring and observing talking to nps,or reading books.

I have noticed also how players approach in a different manner too, you will never get most of the game if you rush it through content like a mountain ram. I am not sure what applies more than freedom of ESO i finished my tutorial on Sorcerer Altmer yesterday and greeted by beautiul view at mountains,forest was snowing i just took a path. Visuals are so impressive. I am more impressed than Western Skyrim and BLACKREACH is UNBELIEVABLY well done that place is so huge and atmosphere is hardly matched by anything, I was mind blew away .........

I will end it here. I am just so struck , I am about to hit 500 hours approx of playing feels I almost never even started.

Faulgor wrote: »

One thing I've noticed from the very beginning is that in the TES single player games, you actually venture out into the wilderness. There's a clear sense of exploration when leaving civilization behind to go into a dungeon or an unknown part of the map.

In ESO, I never had that feeling. For one, wherever you go, there's already someone there. That just comes with multiplayer, I guess. But the maps are also so dense, that every place feels civilized through and through. Traveling across the whole continent also is done with the click of a button that there is never any tension when going somewhere far out. The deepest dungeons feel just as far away from your door as your mailbox.

I'm not entirely sure how to approach a solution to this. I think what I'd like to see is something like an actual adventure zone that disables fast travel. No wayshrines. The further you go, the more dangerous things should become - yes, the lacking difficulty in overland zones contributes to this problem. A daedric realm might be a good place for something like this.

Oh, and spellcrafting. Especially for non-combat spells like waterwalking.

Have you tried not to fast travel?

I’d also like to see more original units and some less re-skinning of existing enemies.

Like bring the Skyrim Frostbite spider


Don’t just do a skin of the existing spider units like we see here
https://erichall.artstation.com/projects/gJZrkE