Aptonoth wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

bluebird wrote: »

Aptonoth wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Dont forget that they can do other plains of daedric princes, such as the Shivering Isles.

They could but it would be a *** move to screw over Black Marsh and Argonian fans.

They screwed over Imperial fans just now in favour of Argonian fans, so well... that's ESO for you.

Murkmire wasn't that long ago, yet over a half of the Blackwood Chapter is Argonian (2 out of the 3 biomes according to the announcement). This was supposed to be the Imperial Chapter, the Oblivion-nostalgia-year, and yet Imperials are forced to share their Chapter with lizards when Khajiit got a whole year to themselves, Dunmer got a Chapter and a DLC, and High Elves and Nord got their own Chapter alone.

Seemingly, the Q4 DLC will take place in the Deadlands? So no Imperial stuff there either. I don't know how hard it would have been to make a proper Imperial Chapter, and then make a proper Argonian Chapter in a later year instead of this mashup nonsense.

Sounds like ZOS wants to shut down ESO faster, since they are rushing through their themes without doing them justice much. After this year, I doubt either Imperials or Argonians will get any content. We'll get Hammerfell for diversity next year, probably.

Right? I've been looking forward to an Imperial chapter since the Gold Coast, [Snip]. Right after hoping for Winterhold in Skyrim's year and instead getting ... vampires.

Considering the new game systems get less and less interesting every year, at least the zone and story content should be top ... right now I couldn't be less interested.

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HAHAHA. My boys in green are way more popular than you think. What happened? Did the ESO forums echo chamber think everyone hated Argonians's and Black Marsh? These are if anything some of the most requested zones to go and visit by elder scrolls fans. It's only natural people will want BM stuff. It's a very very small and vocal minority that keeps trying to spread the mis-information no one likes black marsh.

Also the expansion is selling so fast its crashing the servers lol. What happened to Black Marsh and Argonian's being so unpopular they don't sell?

People like to play as Argonians, that is true. However, the Argonian themed zones are not popular with the players. Shadowfen is one of the least populated zones of the base game. Murkmire had a decent main quest, some nice sets and expensive (green) motifs and that isn't enough to draw a decent population there. People regularly visit the Gold Coast, Hew's Bane, but not Murkmire. Most likely because of the swamps.

Future Zones they could do:

Tamriel:

• Hammerfell - could get two chapters out of this plus DLC zones.
• Morrowind - two chapters or one chapter with smaller DLC zones
• Blackmarsh -one chapter with couple of DLC zones
• Skyrim -one chapter - couple of DLC zones
• Elswyer -missing middle bit.
• Highrock- missing city of Jehanna area (Orc lands), also Balfiera Island.
• Solstheim -could be part of a skyrim chapter or stand alone thing with something else.
• Islands- a few not added to the game yet.
• Valenwood- city of Falinesti still missing.

Other land masses

• Thas - Chapter, dungeons and story DLC worthy.
• Pyandonea - Chapter, dungeons and story DLC worthy, new race even.
• Padomaic islands -Cathnoquey • Esroniet • Olenveld • Roscrea • Vounoura • Yneslea

Daedric Realms -possibilities are endless here, already made up a few themselves.

• Apocrypha (Hermaeus Mora)
• The Ashpit (Malacath)
• The Colored Rooms (Meridia)
• The Evergloam (Nocturnal)
• The Fields of Regret (Clavicus Vile)
• The Hunting Grounds (Hircine)
• Moonshadow (Azura)
• The Myriad Realms of Revelry (Sanguine)
• The Pits (Peryite)
• Quagmire (Vaermina)
• The Scuttling Void (Namira)
• Realm of Boethia
• The Shivering Isles -Sweet Uncle Sheo
• The Spiral Skein (Mephala)
  
  Other Realms- The Abyss • The Battlespire • The Chimera of Desolation • Detritus (Hollowjack) • The Gorge • The Havoc Wellhead • Infernace • Levinace • Nightflame (Bogdan) • Realm of the Hist • The Soul Cairn (Ideal Masters) • Any the wish to add.

Aetherius- Same as oblivion possibilities are endless, Far Shores • Sands Behind the Stars • Sovngarde

Other places
Once that has all filled up could go onto other continents or different places in Mundus, Nirn is one of 9 planets/ celestial bodies.

• Akavir- full expansion worthy, many years of chapters
• Yokuda -Whats left or is the history we know not the full story -insert dun dun dun-
• Atmora -Home place of man? Sea Giants? dont know about you, but whats there?
• Aldmeris -Is it real? or in Aetherius? was there a reason the elves fled? -insert second dun dun dun-
• Lyg- Real place? the Adjacent Place?
• Something new -Could add a whole different continent on the other side of the world, we and the people of Tamriel know nothing about.

Point of the long list is to show they could literally take us anywhere they want in the world.

bluebird wrote: »

Aptonoth wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Dont forget that they can do other plains of daedric princes, such as the Shivering Isles.

They could but it would be a *** move to screw over Black Marsh and Argonian fans.

Murkmire wasn't that long ago, yet over a half of the Blackwood Chapter is Argonian (2 out of the 3 biomes according to the announcement). This was supposed to be the Imperial Chapter, the Oblivion-nostalgia-year, and yet Imperials are forced to share their Chapter with lizards when Khajiit got a whole year to themselves, Dunmer got a Chapter and a DLC, and High Elves and Nord got their own Chapter alone.

Nord chapter was hijacked by vampires (Both villains and good guys). Second part was barbarian bretons. Edit: I do agree though. I was really hoping for Skingrad or something.

Sylvermynx wrote: »

volkeswagon wrote: »

Am I the only one who hates the Shadowfen landscape and would dread any more expansions with similar landscape.

Nope;. Between Shadowfen and Murkmire.... I only go there for surveys and antiquities. The only swamp I like is Hjallmarch.... Morthal is my longtime home in TES.....

And that's more cold wetlands than swamp. Cold wetlands I like. Swamp? Not so much.

Still would like to have a Daedric Realm(full on) type of chapter, but with Oblivion and Deadlands this year ita unlikely to happen.
A shivering isles chapter would likely sell the everliving hell out of this game IMHO.
Oh well.

Eww the amount of Breton and dumber players hating on Argonians in this thread is at an all time high. How do I know. You reek of naive superiority!!!

And before this is clipped....I hate that I have to even say it... but it’s obviously a sarcastic joke. But true.

ealdwin wrote: »

Nord_Raseri wrote: »

bluebird wrote: »

Aptonoth wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Dont forget that they can do other plains of daedric princes, such as the Shivering Isles.

They could but it would be a *** move to screw over Black Marsh and Argonian fans.

Murkmire wasn't that long ago, yet over a half of the Blackwood Chapter is Argonian (2 out of the 3 biomes according to the announcement). This was supposed to be the Imperial Chapter, the Oblivion-nostalgia-year, and yet Imperials are forced to share their Chapter with lizards when Khajiit got a whole year to themselves, Dunmer got a Chapter and a DLC, and High Elves and Nord got their own Chapter alone.

Nord chapter was hijacked by vampires (Both villains and good guys). Second part was barbarian bretons. Edit: I do agree though. I was really hoping for Skingrad or something.

Common misconception, but the Reachmen aren't Bretons. They may share common ancestry in the far distant past, but they are in the current timeline two distinct races. In TES V they (Forsworn, a group of Reachmen) are only Breton because Bethesda didn't want to create a different race (in technical, game programming sense) for them. Same thing happened in ESO.

Yeah, barbarian bretons is just my name for them. Meant nothing by it. I call orsimer ogre elves and khajit furry elves.

Pyandonea - Chapter, dungeons and story DLC worthy, new race even.

I was actually wishing and hoping for this- I really want a maormer race to be official in game! It's fun trying to make one out of an altmer, but it's impossible to get the skin tone quite right, even if you have the expensive skin from the crown crate to give you scales. Plus I want the cool, fishy ears and other traits seen on the maormer in summerset.

A chapter with the Archein tribe of Argonians might be interesting. They're by far the nastiest of the lizards down there, willingly selling other tribes into slavery to the Dunmer, including the Telvanni.

That happened ages ago, like so long ago that it may have been a completely different kalpa cycle and may have not even been literal.
Redguards have changed a lot through the ages, the conflicts of 4E Redguards are not the conflicts of 1E Yokudans.
Just because something was true to Yokudans doesn't mean it's still true in the present day. For example, I don't think there's any lore stating that there was a massive hate-filled class divide in Yokudan society, yet the descendants of Ra-gada and Na-Totambu despise each other more than anything (Forebears vs Crowns conflict*). If their society can change enough to allow for such a deep-seated hatred to develop than so can their willigness to ally with elves. Especially if they hate another group of elves more.

And they have already allied with Bretons, who are both magical AND half-elves, plus have a long history of conflicts with the Redguards.

*It's worth noting that this conflict itself seems to have resolved due to the Great War (the Siege of Hegathe), for the first time in history Forebears and Crowns helped each other instead of letting the other faction be slaughtered. So yeah, things change.

Also, Shehai is widely considered a form of soul magic. So Redguard don't hate everything magic.

Well Tamriel map is getting quite crowded lately... so not much left to discover... ofc we are going to visit Hammerfell, Black March, the rest of Skyrim and who know what else... somewhere in the north.