We now know the next chapters after Blackwood. 2022 Hammerfell and 2023 Blackmarsh.

SeaGtGruff

We're already getting more Argonian-related content this year-- not exclusively in Black Marsh, but extending into the western region of Black Marsh, right?

starlizard70ub17_ESO

Aptonoth wrote: »

Čičiliusku wrote: »

Aptonoth wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

bluebird wrote: »

Aptonoth wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Dont forget that they can do other plains of daedric princes, such as the Shivering Isles.

They could but it would be a *** move to screw over Black Marsh and Argonian fans.

They screwed over Imperial fans just now in favour of Argonian fans, so well... that's ESO for you.

Murkmire wasn't that long ago, yet over a half of the Blackwood Chapter is Argonian (2 out of the 3 biomes according to the announcement). This was supposed to be the Imperial Chapter, the Oblivion-nostalgia-year, and yet Imperials are forced to share their Chapter with lizards when Khajiit got a whole year to themselves, Dunmer got a Chapter and a DLC, and High Elves and Nord got their own Chapter alone.

Seemingly, the Q4 DLC will take place in the Deadlands? So no Imperial stuff there either. I don't know how hard it would have been to make a proper Imperial Chapter, and then make a proper Argonian Chapter in a later year instead of this mashup nonsense.

Sounds like ZOS wants to shut down ESO faster, since they are rushing through their themes without doing them justice much. After this year, I doubt either Imperials or Argonians will get any content. We'll get Hammerfell for diversity next year, probably.

Right? I've been looking forward to an Imperial chapter since the Gold Coast, [Snip]. Right after hoping for Winterhold in Skyrim's year and instead getting ... vampires.

Considering the new game systems get less and less interesting every year, at least the zone and story content should be top ... right now I couldn't be less interested.

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HAHAHA. My boys in green are way more popular than you think. What happened? Did the ESO forums echo chamber think everyone hated Argonians's and Black Marsh? These are if anything some of the most requested zones to go and visit by elder scrolls fans. It's only natural people will want BM stuff. It's a very very small and vocal minority that keeps trying to spread the mis-information no one likes black marsh.

Also the expansion is selling so fast its crashing the servers lol. What happened to Black Marsh and Argonian's being so unpopular they don't sell?

People like to play as Argonians, that is true. However, the Argonian themed zones are not popular with the players. Shadowfen is one of the least populated zones of the base game. Murkmire had a decent main quest, some nice sets and expensive (green) motifs and that isn't enough to draw a decent population there. People regularly visit the Gold Coast, Hew's Bane, but not Murkmire. Most likely because of the swamps.

I guess its must be a different continent thing as over here MM is bristling with activity nearly all time of the day I know as I go there very frequently and Hew's bane is dead except guild trade activity.

Wow, over here on NA PC, it's the exact opposite. MM is pretty much dead except for the few people doing the quest line. And Hew's Bane has people running through the dailies at all hours.

SeaGtGruff

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Dont forget that they can do other plains of daedric princes, such as the Shivering Isles.

Aptonoth wrote: »

rrimöykk wrote: »

Aptonoth wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Dont forget that they can do other plains of daedric princes, such as the Shivering Isles.

They could but it would be a *** move to screw over Black Marsh and Argonian fans.

The only downside to those are that they won't sell as well as other zones and races. No offense but it's a fact.

They said Murkmire was one of their better selling dlc. I hate this notion that people hate weird and fantastical things. Maybe just maybe. It's only you and a vocal minority who are paralyzed at the thought of fantasy in their fantasy setting? If Zenimax goes against their own word I will be so pissed no amount of bans will get me to go away until they uphold their word.

You mean the one that was so botched they had to literally give it away? I'm not sure what word you think they're going against here. You're speculating, and they're not obligated to anyone but their shareholders at this point.

Sorry, you've seen one wamasu, you've seen them all.

A proper Shivering Isles is long overdue.

I didn't think Murkmire was "botched" at all.

Also, when it was announced that Murkmire would be available for free as one of the daily log-in rewards, I thought they said they were considering doing that with other future DLCs, which to my mind kind of implies that they weren't giving it away for free because they thought it was "so botched."

But my recollection is that when Murkmire was given away as a daily log-in reward, there was a big stink raised by some of the players, who were offended that they were buying Murkmire yet other players would be getting it for free.

No matter how hard ZOS tries to be awesome toward their ESO playerbase, there's always players who seem to want to spin everything in a negative context and get outraged over it.

A DLC given away for free? How dare they! I purchased it; now I want a refund for it! (This was also the outrage when Imperial City was made a free DLC.) Alternate outrage: They didn't even think it was worth asking money for!

Free ESO Plus trials? Why are we not getting our ESO Plus subscriptions credited for that?

Dragons in ESO? OMG, they're disrespecting the lore!

Going back to Skyrim? It's obviously just a cheap ploy to rope in fans of TES5!

Companions we can take questing with us? ESO is now officially a solo-player MMO!

It's astonishing to me-- and depressing-- how some people are so determined to be so dissatisfied with anything ZOS does.

Iccotak

ealdwin wrote: »

Nord_Raseri wrote: »

bluebird wrote: »

Aptonoth wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Dont forget that they can do other plains of daedric princes, such as the Shivering Isles.

They could but it would be a *** move to screw over Black Marsh and Argonian fans.

Murkmire wasn't that long ago, yet over a half of the Blackwood Chapter is Argonian (2 out of the 3 biomes according to the announcement). This was supposed to be the Imperial Chapter, the Oblivion-nostalgia-year, and yet Imperials are forced to share their Chapter with lizards when Khajiit got a whole year to themselves, Dunmer got a Chapter and a DLC, and High Elves and Nord got their own Chapter alone.

Nord chapter was hijacked by vampires (Both villains and good guys). Second part was barbarian bretons. Edit: I do agree though. I was really hoping for Skingrad or something.

Common misconception, but the Reachmen aren't Bretons. They may share common ancestry in the far distant past, but they are in the current timeline two distinct races. In TES V they (Forsworn, a group of Reachmen) are only Breton because Bethesda didn't want to create a different race (in technical, game programming sense) for them. Same thing happened in ESO.

Agree about Nord chapter getting hijacked. I was hoping for some good younger-hold/Western Skyrim lore, and it felt decreased because it had to touch on Vampires. It could have done Skyim-specific Vampires, ie. focus on Nighthollow rather than Grey Host, and thus tied the foes closer to the zone. This is what was done with the dragons in Elswyer; they were tied to the lore of the region, so that through our encounters with them we gained more knowledge about the region. There really wasn't anything Skyrim-specific about the Grey Host, besides that they holed up in a Vampiric-castle under Skyrim. A more regional vampiric clan having claims in Blackreach and having more Skyrim-specific plans would have allowed more gaining of knowledge about the region.

There's always Whiterun!

Jusey1

Um... 2021 is the Black Marsh one it looks like. Blackwood is taking place in southern Cyrodiil AND Black Marsh. We're actually going to Gideon, which is a major city in Black Marsh. Plus we have Murkmire, so we do have a good amount of Black Marsh thus far which is exciting.

Aptonoth

Jusey1 wrote: »

Um... 2021 is the Black Marsh one it looks like. Blackwood is taking place in southern Cyrodiil AND Black Marsh. We're actually going to Gideon, which is a major city in Black Marsh. Plus we have Murkmire, so we do have a good amount of Black Marsh thus far which is exciting.

When I made this thread I didn't realize how much there was. I hope we get a new Argonian crate full of cosmetics this year if its supposed to be our year. Aylied is the first then iron is next. I hope one of the last two are Blackwood argonian themed.

Kajuratus

Aptonoth wrote: »

They have said they want every area that doesn't have an expansion or is complete to get one expansion before they go back to filling in areas that have had one expansion and need more. We also know they don't do double years of the same terrain so no swamp. This means 2022 will be a Hammerfell chapter and 2023 will be Black Marsh.

We are getting Black Marsh in this chapter. We're just also getting Cyrodiil. I would guess that next years expansion will probably be Hammerfell, but 2023 could be something else. It could be the Eastern Morrowind peninsula. It could be a different plane of Oblivion. I doubt we'll be getting any more Skyrim holds or the Colovian Estates so soon after both Greymoor and Blackwood, but neither do I think that we'll be getting a full Black Marsh chapter so soon after Blackwood. This is going to be as much a Cyrodiil chapter as it is a Black Marsh chapter. I would say the Colovian Estates are actually more likely to get a chapter sooner than another area of Black Marsh, since Leyawiin is a Nibenean city and the Colovian Estates are... well, Colovian.

Jusey1

Aptonoth wrote: »

I hope we get a new Argonian crate full of cosmetics this year

I wouldn't count on it. Crown crates might not be a thing in ESO by the end of this year due to Microsoft buying Zenimax. Microsoft has a set of rules of what kind of gambling boxes are acceptable in their games and Zenimax's crown crates are against those rules... So they will either be removed or heavily reworked.

Kajuratus

bluebird wrote: »

They screwed over Imperial fans just now in favour of Argonian fans, so well... that's ESO for you.

Murkmire wasn't that long ago, yet over a half of the Blackwood Chapter is Argonian (2 out of the 3 biomes according to the announcement). This was supposed to be the Imperial Chapter, the Oblivion-nostalgia-year, and yet Imperials are forced to share their Chapter with lizards when Khajiit got a whole year to themselves, Dunmer got a Chapter and a DLC, and High Elves and Nord got their own Chapter alone.

Seemingly, the Q4 DLC will take place in the Deadlands? So no Imperial stuff there either. I don't know how hard it would have been to make a proper Imperial Chapter, and then make a proper Argonian Chapter in a later year instead of this mashup nonsense.

You're forgetting about the Colovian Estates. Theres a prime chapter sized area of the map ready and waiting for us to see Skingrad and Sutch, and still plenty of room in the Nibenay Basin for a smaller DLC zone. They'll get their chance to shine another day, and hopefully it'll be better for it. I certainly wasn't looking forward to Dagon invading Cyrodiil again. Still a bit miffed that he's the antagonist of this year long story, but the Oblivion nostalgia seems to be solely on the "Oblivion" part, which I'm ok with

Bat

The Sea of Pearls! Thras! And while in Thras a side quest can be to rescue baby sea sloads from their cruel soap fates and we get to keep one as a pet! Oh, don't give me that look, they will be cute, like all babies are until they grow out of infancy.

Aptonoth

Jusey1 wrote: »

Aptonoth wrote: »

I hope we get a new Argonian crate full of cosmetics this year

I wouldn't count on it. Crown crates might not be a thing in ESO by the end of this year due to Microsoft buying Zenimax. Microsoft has a set of rules of what kind of gambling boxes are acceptable in their games and Zenimax's crown crates are against those rules... So they will either be removed or heavily reworked.

I really hope your right. In either case I hope there is lots of cosmetics we don’t have enough.

joedaniel

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Dont forget that they can do other plains of daedric princes, such as the Shivering Isles.

Aptonoth wrote: »

rrimöykk wrote: »

Aptonoth wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Dont forget that they can do other plains of daedric princes, such as the Shivering Isles.

They could but it would be a *** move to screw over Black Marsh and Argonian fans.

The only downside to those are that they won't sell as well as other zones and races. No offense but it's a fact.

They said Murkmire was one of their better selling dlc. I hate this notion that people hate weird and fantastical things. Maybe just maybe. It's only you and a vocal minority who are paralyzed at the thought of fantasy in their fantasy setting? If Zenimax goes against their own word I will be so pissed no amount of bans will get me to go away until they uphold their word.

You mean the one that was so botched they had to literally give it away? I'm not sure what word you think they're going against here. You're speculating, and they're not obligated to anyone but their shareholders at this point.

Sorry, you've seen one wamasu, you've seen them all.

A proper Shivering Isles is long overdue.

I didn't think Murkmire was "botched" at all.

Also, when it was announced that Murkmire would be available for free as one of the daily log-in rewards, I thought they said they were considering doing that with other future DLCs, which to my mind kind of implies that they weren't giving it away for free because they thought it was "so botched."

But my recollection is that when Murkmire was given away as a daily log-in reward, there was a big stink raised by some of the players, who were offended that they were buying Murkmire yet other players would be getting it for free.

No matter how hard ZOS tries to be awesome toward their ESO playerbase, there's always players who seem to want to spin everything in a negative context and get outraged over it.

A DLC given away for free? How dare they! I purchased it; now I want a refund for it! (This was also the outrage when Imperial City was made a free DLC.) Alternate outrage: They didn't even think it was worth asking money for!

Free ESO Plus trials? Why are we not getting our ESO Plus subscriptions credited for that?

Dragons in ESO? OMG, they're disrespecting the lore!

Going back to Skyrim? It's obviously just a cheap ploy to rope in fans of TES5!

Companions we can take questing with us? ESO is now officially a solo-player MMO!

It's astonishing to me-- and depressing-- how some people are so determined to be so dissatisfied with anything ZOS does.

I swear gamers are so freaking entitled, you're so right.. I have been a gamer my whole life and I still hate so many video game fans lol

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Fata1moose wrote: »

Yeah Hammerfell isn't happening because of TES VI. They will want to match up the remaining parts of Hammerfell with what BGS does in TES VI. Starfield is what's primarily being worked on so there's probably not enough of the TES VI map to go off of. I think it will be Morrowind > Black Marsh > Skyrim > Hammerfell

ESO already has the Alikr desert, Hew's Bane, Sothern Bangkoorai and Craglorn, they are all part of Hammerfell.

Baconlad

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Cyrodiil...the next expac will be completely rebuilding cyrodiil and creating the greatest PvP zone any game has ever seen. They are rebranding the entire game as a PvP game and all players will be required to PvP in all zones.

Boom...*mic drop*

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SammyKhajit

More political intrigues like Orsinium. No more “daedric prince taking over” please.

MaisonNaevius

2022 : Southern Crowns kingdoms of Hammerfell (a part)
2023 : Colovian Estates
2024 : Telvanni Peninsula
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I use the same diagram started with Imperial City DLC which has the same characteristics as Blackwood.

On the other hand, the subject is very old. Thanks for the necromancy.

Prof_Bawbag

Iccotak wrote: »

rrimöykk wrote: »

Aptonoth wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Dont forget that they can do other plains of daedric princes, such as the Shivering Isles.

They could but it would be a *** move to screw over Black Marsh and Argonian fans.

The only downside to those are that they won't sell as well as other zones and races. No offense but it's a fact.

that's an opinion

Is it though? The fact main TES games stick to human or elf races for the most part says animal races aren't really that popular outside of most forums.

ZOS_Volpe

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